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Ask HN: What you up to? (Who doesn't want to be hired?)
Instead of talking jobs, what is everyone up to otherwise? Any interesting going on in life or with your hobby project?

Unfinished and novel ideas are of course most interesting, so feel free to share anything you're thinking about!

philangist · 4 years ago
I won the IPO lottery and I’m in the middle ground between rich enough to never work again but not quite rich enough for the yachts/mansions/private jets lifestyle. I haven’t worked in 6 months and I’m struggling to find a larger meaning to my life beyond getting yet another tech job. I’ve considered going to college for a math degree, moving to my parents home country, and joining the military (among many other options) over the last few months. Just feeling very aimless so I’ve started reading Russian literature and spending hours on Reddit every day.

27/M (today was my birthday :)

sigg3 · 4 years ago
This is quite normal. Many who win big in the literal lotteries are worse off. I know reddit is all antiwork these days, but that's really mostly about rights and not not working.

Being a productive member of society is meaningful. I'm from Scandinavia and a lot of our identity is tied up with our careers. Being without a job or any structural social purpose is asking for depression.

GWF Hegel wrote about suffering from indeterminacy. In short, autonomy is inherently social, so ways of life that are merely abstract (i.e. that society does not recognize in terms of existing mores) are void of satisfaction. Satisfaction is only real and concrete through reciprocal recognition. So the "I can do anything" type of freedom is only mere freedom (Willkür), which drains the individual of intersubjectively verifiable self-determination. I.e. you're determining yourself, but no one can recognize it without coercion, and you're unable to recognize it in social reality only in your mind. (And conversely, over-determinacy is slavery.

So even if you don't need to work for money, you might need a job to be able to find meaning in your life. We are a social species that survive on collective efforts.

Personally, if I had won lots of money I would strive to live on as if I didn't.

hcmacro · 4 years ago
I think you're too easily taking for granted that having a job makes one a productive member of society.

Evergreen link: https://www.amazon.com/Bullshit-Jobs-Theory-David-Graeber/dp...

adv0r · 4 years ago
> society does not recognize in terms of existing

The hell with this. Society nows recognizes Early Retirment as a status to aspire to. People look up to joung retirees, and this provides a pretty big identity.

The FI movement now put a name and label on it, so the belonging part of meaning is covered.

TheOtherHobbes · 4 years ago
Considering the number of depressed people who have jobs, this seems a very questionable view.
ivanhoe · 4 years ago
It's just a matter of what you've been taught to believe is important in life (by culture, religion, parents, peers, etc.). What humans need psychologically is something to keep them occupied and their time structured in some meaningful way, but one doesn't need a job for that - you can practice your hobbies, socializing, taking care of family, or whatever one finds fulfilling. People also need a sense of security and, as you mentioned, peer recognition, but having money fixes both of those quite well. In the end it's all very individual, because the sense of purpose, achievement and self-esteem doesn't deal with some absolute predefined values, but it's relative to your own set of expectations and goals.
randomopining · 4 years ago
What if you can internalize the social mental sphere inside yourself? Giving yourself an honest and just approval when deserved?
AYBABTME · 4 years ago
If from the Coinbase IPO, you just got out of lockout and you're new to that amount of money. You're probably still near 100% invested in Coinbase and need to divest into something more diversified and less volatile than Coinbase before you can sit on your hands and look at the number in your brokerage account as if it was real retirement grade money. Plus you'll need to pay a ton of taxes on the capital gain.

So don't chill out too much. Divest out of Coinbase, continue life as before and get used to the money. Take your time before changing everything and increasing your spending levels. In a year or so, hopefully you'll have diversified and your head will have cooled from the new money, and you'll be more leveled and realistic about what this money enables you to do, and how to handle your life going forward.

As far as I can tell, it seems like a large (20-50) percentage of people who have a large windfall... end up losing it all because they don't take the time to learn how to handle it.

Good luck and happy birthday!

muzani · 4 years ago
There's a Ask HN thread, maybe a few, of people who hit it rich and later lost it. The common theme is it's easier to make lots of money than it is to keep it, which is a little unintuitive.
mkleinstadt · 4 years ago
Not to mention that there's a nonzero chance of Tether bringing down the entire crypto ecosystem (temporarily) within the next year, Coinbase stock included
qPM9l3XJrF · 4 years ago
What are the most common reasons for losing it?
OJFord · 4 years ago
> As far as I can tell, it seems like a large (20-50) percentage of people who have a large windfall... end up losing it all because they don't take the time to learn how to handle it.

I agree with all your advice, but I think that^'s impossible to tell. The vast majority of people successfully and sensibly handling such things are (partly as a result or even 'input' of it) not talking about it.

mwattsun · 4 years ago
I was in a similar circumstance. I drove a city bus in Las Vegas for a year. The experience opened my eyes to many things and changed my life in good ways.
JamesAdir · 4 years ago
Would love to read a blog post about this kind of experience!
dougSF70 · 4 years ago
I would like to learn more about your experience.
el_dev_hell · 4 years ago
I'm considering something similar (although probably not as large of a lump sum). I want to spend a year~ as a bartender.

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raffraffraff · 4 years ago
Recommend reading "Four Thousand Weeks" by Oliver Burkeman. It's about time management, but not the traditional "how to get everything done" sense. He talks about what a normal person can do with their "4000 weeks", or, roughly speaking, their life. If you do decide to go back to work, I'm sure you'll approach it in a very different way. I'm a lot older than you, but I'm also 6 months off work on a break. I'm doing a lot of non-tech stuff (DIY, cycling, running, reading, adopting two greyhounds). But I am planning on heading back to work soon. I didn't win the IPO lottery, but my house is paid off and I live frugally. I could probably do nothing for another year, but it's time I went back to work. I'm just going to approach it very differently this time around. My father is very old, and I lost my sister three years ago. People matter.
black_puppydog · 4 years ago
I just read the short summary on goodreads [1] and... color me skeptical...

It reads like a version of "The Celestine Prophecy" [2] but aimed at a middle-aged tech bubble. Could you (or anyone else) compare the two, for a very slow reader to make a decision? :D

PS yes the comparison is probably too harsh but that was honestly my first gut reaction...

[1]: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36481028-4000-weeks-a-li...

[2]: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13103.The_Celestine_Prop...

gota · 4 years ago
Do you perchance like to teach? Maybe lectures like traditional classes, but there's a huge need for mentors to young folks with interest in technical fields, particularly in underdeveloped countries (in many such cases merely talking to them in English is already a lot of help!)

I know I'd like to do that, but I've always liked teaching so maybe it's not fitting to everyone.

E.g. I volunteer at a local (Brazilian) nonprofit org as part of my employers' give-back programs and I love it. I try to get (underpriviledged) kids interested in computer science concepts by discussing how they are applied in games. It is all remote (which adds a level of challenge)

I'd believe many such orgs exist. In fact, writing this it occurs to me that putting together a curated list could be a worthwhile effort.

lejbrouwer · 4 years ago
Hey man, long time lurker, first time poster here. I'm also brazilian (living abroad) and interested in doing some sort of volunteer work teaching CS basics. The idea of doing it in my mother tongue to underpriviledged brazilian kids sounds awesome!

I also have my email on my profile, please contact me with a bit more info...

Obrigado e tudo de bom pra vc!

enricozb · 4 years ago
Can I ask you what the name of the org is? I really like to teach, I've done it before, and being Brazilian really makes me want to give back to an institution closer to home.
bitexploder · 4 years ago
Not that you asked, but just find things you enjoy and do the shit out of them. It seems that keeping the mind busy and fulfilled is a part of a long and happy life. Seen a number of folks fall into a sort of purpose hole when they got everything they ever asked for. It’s a strange thing. It’s sort of like… okay? Now what. We did it. What else is there. But really it’s the same things there always was, just that the external forces are removed :)
specproc · 4 years ago
I went back to university at 36 after achieving a very, very modest degree of stability in my life. It was one of the best decisions I've ever made. Gave me a completely different perspective on who I am, what I'm interested in. It gave me the skills to start working in a sector I actually enjoy.

My friend, if I had never work again money, I'd just pile up Masters and PhDs.

endymi0n · 4 years ago
I‘m wondering what‘s your motivation behind that… Do you just like the sensation of studying so much?

I‘d probably feel empty myself just accumulating knowledge all my life and not applying it to any high impact problem worth solving.

iposoldier · 4 years ago
Same age, made $4.5 million in an IPO. Decided to join the military. It was worth it, would recommend with several key caveats. Remember, most FAANGs pay you your tech salary while you’re training. A lot easier to get smoked by a Drill SGT when you know you’re making 10x their salary while doing those push ups :)
petters · 4 years ago
American companies pay you to join the military?
boppo1 · 4 years ago
What military job/mos did you pick? Sounds like you went reserve?
optimiz3 · 4 years ago
1. Take up and learn about investing. Managing large amounts of money can be a part-to-full time job, and not knowing key mechanics will cause you to get screwed or be at the mercy of others.

2. Find love but keep your wealth a secret until you're sure they are the One and financially responsible. Love comes undone fast over money, and you'll probably need a pre-nup to avoid getting cut in half if things go south. Easier if your partner is also a professional and has assets which goes back to them being financially responsible.

3. Establish a relationship with a law firm. You never know when you're going to need them.

4. Build those software projects you've always wanted to.

hellweaver666 · 4 years ago
2 is an interesting one because almost every day on /r/relationship_advice there is at least one thread where someone asks what to do when they discover "the one" has kept a secret from them for a long time and now they don't trust them any more. I imagine that response would be different if someone suddenly declared that they were rich, versus that they used to be a sex worker but sudden changes in the relationship status can certainly be unhealthy in a variety of ways.
giantg2 · 4 years ago
I think you can cross the military off your list. If you've made enough money to not work, I feel like you'll get tried/frustrated of the BS involved in a lot of it before your commission is up. I could be wrong though - just things I've seen.
kkjjkgjjgg · 4 years ago
Plus, doesn't the military come with an elevated risk of being killed on the job?
siva7 · 4 years ago
I feel someone should see a therapist if thinking about joining the military out of boredom
kache_ · 4 years ago
Same age, also won the IPO lotto, but not enough to not have to work. Just enough to be financially comfortable with any downturn.

I think it might have been the best outcome. Actually on second thought, no, I'd love to not work. Congrats.

kypro · 4 years ago
Happy birthday!

I'm a similar age as you (30) and like you I've built a decent amount of wealth to the point where I no longer need to work anymore. Over the last couple of years I've had to question what life means beyond money and all the hedonistic pleasures which money can buy.

I don't know how transferable my experience is, but I would warn against focusing on pursuits that are overly self-indulgent. At some point you're going to find there just isn't much more you can want, and you may even find yourself feeling depressed and confused about what your next pursuit should be -- especially if you've always been a highly driven individual like myself.

Instead I've found looking around myself and asking how I can help others has given my life a sense of purpose again. You may not be able to make yourself any happier with money, but you can improve the lives of others. And to be clear, I'm not talking strictly about spending money here (although that is an option), but if you don't need to work anymore simply volunteering your time in a way you believe will make a difference can give your life a huge amount of meaning.

petilon · 4 years ago
> rich enough to never work again

Congrats... but be careful. Some young people underestimate the amount of money needed to "never work again". If you're not working then you don't have group health insurance. You're in the individual market, which often has crappy insurance providers. If you have a serious health issue, and get into a dispute with the insurance provider, your illness can cost millions. If you have > $10 mils you're probably safe though, assuming you invest wisely.

atonse · 4 years ago
Thank goodness for Obamacare (at least in the mid-Atlantic US). Before Obamacare, individual plans were absolute shit (my individual plan wouldn't have covered my wife's pregnancy with our first kid... her job's insurance did).

Thanks to Obamacare, individual plans have the same coverage as employer plans. Without Obamacare I couldn't have started my company which now employs 9 people in well paid tech jobs (without a penny of outside investment). I'd be stuck in an artificial set of handcuffs imposed by a stupid legacy system of tying health insurance to employment.

alfalfasprout · 4 years ago
That's not really true anymore though. The ACA made it so individual health plans are really similar now to what you will get through an employer. And no denial for pre-existing conditions, etc.

Fk you money where you don't ever need to work again and* maintain a big lifestyle is a totally different story though. Doesn't mean OP can't take a break for a year or two though.

mysecretaccount · 4 years ago
Even for a serious health issue, millions seems very unlikely. Additionally, while health care in the US is expensive compared to everywhere else, it isn't likely that the premiums for a single 27 y/o would be the deciding figure in "can or can't retire".
hyperpallium2 · 4 years ago
I was in that middle ground and didn't like it. The worst thing is it was tremendous fun to get there... but not enough motivation to do it again without that incentive.

People who find meaning in being rich, enjoy being rich.

I kind of think riches are an illusion - you should just go directly to whatever you find meaningful in the first place. Which might include a lot of experiences to find out what that is. Essentially: living.

You can still do that - although having to do something is very motivating, even if we don't like it!

raffraffraff · 4 years ago
There's an additional problem though. What if you've found a type of work that you do find meaningful and interesting, but you just don't want to spend 40 hours of your week doing it, now that you "don't have to". It's hard to fit back into working life if you only want to do it, say, 20 hours a week. Some part time jobs exist, but they're the exception.
nickdothutton · 4 years ago
Congratulations. I was exactly your age almost 20 years ago and in a similar situation. The dotcom crash was just breaking and partly by luck and partly by judgement I had chosen that moment to exit and divest myself of those shares. My advice would be that you do the same, get a good financial advisor, stay grounded, take care of your future and lock that down, then think about what you want to do next. Spending hours somewhere like Reddit will rob you of the time you have. Ultimately I switched to investing in startups before eventually returning to “the trenches” myself when I was ready. Good luck to you.
tata71 · 4 years ago
How do you get a good financial advisor if you have few contacts in the space?
gwbas1c · 4 years ago
Consider going back to work, but be ultra selective.

I've worked with a few people who can afford to retire, but find themselves happier showing up to work everyday.

Also, consider YC's founder matching network. Let someone else figure out what the product is, how to sell it, and you just do the bits that you enjoy.

pabs3 · 4 years ago
Open source is always looking for more people to work on it.
pabs3 · 4 years ago
I should add that open source is always looking for more people to fund it too.
physicsguy · 4 years ago
My father met a guy like you, he'd become a maintenance man working for a local government and went around mowing lawns, trimming hedges, etc. after a career in investment banking, just for something to do and to get outside.
sologoub · 4 years ago
Happy B-Day!

Looking for external sources of happiness is likely a losing battle. Keep your eyes open and you will likely see somewhere to be useful/maybe even create something that both helps others and makes something for yourself to get to the yachts stage. In the mean time, try working on relationships around you and maybe volunteer/give back with something more valuable than money - yours skills and experience. Good luck!!!

0kl · 4 years ago
I’d consider studying philosophy.

When I had questions, I ended up changing from chemistry to philosophy in undergrad (before dropping out after realizing no one had the answers). Despite the aforementioned realization, the grounding in Plato, Aristotle, Kant, Nietzsche, Wittgenstein and a few others gave me fertile grounds to later plant seeds of wisdom from thinkers and artists from every walk of life.

I wish I could help you with the struggle, but unfortunately, like most learned things, it’s something that only you can do. If you ever want to, I’d be happy to chat seriously about what it means to be human, beyond making money, any time.

From one sick bed to another: best of luck, and happy birthday.

harmmonica · 4 years ago
If your interest in moving to your parent's home country is not brand new and therefore it's more than something you're just beginning to consider, jump on a plane "tomorrow" and start reading Russian lit and spending hours on Reddit there. This assumes you haven't spent a ton of time there in the past because if you haven't then you will find immediate meaning living there. And if you decide to do one of those other things, or you just feel like it wasn't the right move, you can immediately fly back! No risk. Don't wait. Please. Just book a ticket now.
SubuSS · 4 years ago
I don’t know op’s situation - but visa/green card is a big monkey wrench in those plans.

Also consider the wealth expatriation tax of your host country-they can really sting.

Teknoman117 · 4 years ago
28/M myself, and if I ever ended up with that kind of money, the first thing I would do is focus on my health. I'm very overweight and out of shape and never seem to be able to muster the motivation outside of work to do anything comprehensive about it. I'd love to just be able to quit and consider fitness my full-time job for a year or two.

Depending on exactly how much I made, these are daydreams I've had before:

Start a "company" that focuses purely on open source contribution. Pay people tech salaries just to work on open source projects they care about. My main intent would be to focus on areas where no decent open source software exists or is dominated by a small number of complacent companies that consider it a license to print money.

Learn how to teach and mentor kids, then do it. My mom is a high school computer science and math teacher, and I always wonder how much more effective she could be if funding for equipment wasn't an issue. My students would have access to whatever I thought could benefit their education.

Be a stay-at-home father. My mom was a stay-at-home mom until I turned 16, and my dad worked from home when I was 8 through 12 (the years following the dotcom crash) I started learning to program and got into robotics at 8 years old and I don't think I would've been nearly as successful starting at that age if I didn't have access to both of my parents pretty much constantly. If I ever have children, I would want to give them the same or better. Try to guide them along whatever piques their interest and enable them to access the resources to do well.

My personal view on life is that there really isn't any higher meaning to it. I'm content to wander the Earth finding and doing interesting things until the day I die.

zemvpferreira · 4 years ago
It's awesome that you have such concrete dreams. Please don't wait until you're rich to pursue them, especially dropping weight and becoming healthier. That's one of the best things you can do for yourself in life.

I was a fat kid who managed to lose the weight around ~16 and kept it off till my 30s. I'm 36 now and independently wealthy - much chubbier now than in my 20s. I can tell you that money and lack of worries doesn't make finding the motivation to see a large weight loss through any easier. I go through periods of working out/playing sports for 3-4 hours a day, but if you like eating, it's easy to super compensate and continue to put on weight. I always seem to manage eating one more croissant.

You don't have to do it all at once to become healthier either. any year where you trend downward, even by half a pound, is an improvement. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Again, easier said than done, but you don't have to be comprehensive - just 1% better every day.

Happy to chat with you about weight loss and health if it would be helpful: zemvpferreira @ the old gmail.

whoisthisguy · 4 years ago
Try Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, BJJ. Best sport for software engineers, because you constantly have to solve hard puzzles. You never have to worry about motivation again to do sports. I started it 6 months ago. I'm still in the very very beginning, but I can't imaging not showing up in class, it is so fascinating. In order to get better I lost ~30 pounds, started eating better, etc. Changed my life.
bee_rider · 4 years ago
There are lots of ways to rewardingly expend your time without worrying about money. Volunteer. Do open source stuff. Get into dungeons and dragons. Have kids, or get into Warhammer 40k minis, if you want to go broke.
Heneeque · 4 years ago
My goal when I reach this hopefully before 60 or so:

Buying a farm, building a nice private park, building Rome style bath, japanese onsen and having space for family and friends so they would like to visit me because it's very nice.

But sure you need the interest in wanting to design and build your own house, park, pool etc.

koolba · 4 years ago
Get into gardening. It’s the ultimate leisure activity for people with too much time. And it’s a natural segue to fancy cooking which is also a fantastic time sink.
alexkwan · 4 years ago
If you have the time and feeling lost, I suggest you to spend 10 days for a vipassana meditation camp. They have centers worldwide. Happy Birthday btw!
littlethrowaway · 4 years ago
I do not recommend vipassana unless you've done a _lot_ of meditation before. 10 days of complete silence is a massive strain. I did it, based on little more than a recommendation like this, and had a bipolar episode (no history of bipolar or serious mental illness before). My story [0]

[0]. http://livingvipassana.blogspot.com/2010/02/bipolar-chronicl...

guytv · 4 years ago
Vipassana changed my life for the best. Since my first course, I did a few more, some 10 days, and some 3-day courses which are available only for people who already did the 10 day course.

It made me a better entrepreneur, better father, better spouse.

Like the commenter above stated, there are people who have psychiatric breakdowns following or during such courses. I don't think the Vipassana organization is doing a good job making this information transparent. But, from my anecdotal experience of over 20 years of courses, these cases are very few and far between.

philangist · 4 years ago
Vipassana is great. I went to a retreat in 2017 that I fully credit with putting me on the path that led to this current situation. I've been trying to enroll in another 10-day course for the last year, but they fill up fast and I've yet to make it off the waitlist.

https://www.dhamma.org/en-US/courses/search

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jmcmaster · 4 years ago
Happy birthday! No great answers to meaning of life, but work focused on societal contributions helped me. In 2009 I was burned out on consulting for banks and telcos, switched to focusing on public sector challenges. Lots of needs for purpose-driven design, dev, product. Also coaching and mentoring, especially for social innovation. Have yet to hit lottery, and make less than I could with industry clients, but better for my sense of making a difference.
chirau · 4 years ago
When people say "enough money so that they don't have to work anymore", what kind of money are we talking about here? 1 to 10M? 10 to 20M? or what?
gitfan86 · 4 years ago
In general you can leave your money in the stock market and take out 4% a year and expect that to continue forever. Obviously there is no guarantee on that but it has held true for 60+ years. If your expenses are 40k/year you only need 1M to retire. 20M would get you 800k/year.
bhy · 4 years ago
Apart from philosophy mentioned by the other poster, you can also read into psychology. Some branches in psychology deal with the question of how to live a fulfilled life, eg. positive psychology [1] and humanistic psychology [2]. Also Buddhism has similar goal and teachings interleave with these psychology topics [3].

To start, you can pick a Psychology 101 textbook (I like Psychology and Life [4]) and then read the people and bibliography mentioned in these Wikipedia articles.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_psychology

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanistic_psychology

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_psychology

[4] https://www.amazon.com/Psychology-Life-Richard-Gerrig/dp/020...

0kl · 4 years ago
Agreed. On my journey to some sort of personal meaning I ended up going through psychology, physical sciences, philosophy & meditation - roughly in that order with poetry and literature interspersed…

But understanding life has, in my experience, been similar to the hermeneutic circle: to understand a part, you must understand the whole, and to understand the whole, you must understand the parts…

That is: the entry point is here - learn about the world and about how humans think about and perceive it. Start anywhere, but start.

*edit: I forgot to add also history. It also helps to shed light on the different meanings people have discovered over time.

1270018080 · 4 years ago
What were the events leading up to getting such a big equity pay out?

What # employee were you?

Was it options/RSUs?

What % of the company do you have?

How long did you work there?

I ask because I am at a series B, and I'm very optimistic for our future. But I am only employee #100 or so and don't see a big payout for me barring a multi billion dollar exit (a little too far fetched). I'm just curious how it all goes down for those lucky employees.

qqqwerty · 4 years ago
I think you are in the sweet spot. Equity compensation drops fast for early employees. Roughly, the first employee might get 1-2%, but by employee #10 it is down to 0.25-0.1%. At that level, you would still need a billion dollar exit to get into FU money territory.

And keep in mind, at the early stage startups salaries are often lower and the startup is likely pre product market fit. So it is much more risky. Employee #100 feels like the sweet spot because it likely means the startup has found product market fit and is hitting the accelerator re growth, but you still get a taste of early employee equity.

Of course this is just in terms of maximizing "IPO lottery" potential. If you are trying to maximize probable net worth, FAANG probably wins due to higher compensation.

quickthrower2 · 4 years ago
Also what % do you have out of interest? I'm outside the US so I feel my % is less than you'd get at US startups that generally compensate better. Obviously % isn't everything but it's a metric to track.
liptide · 4 years ago
I feel you're on the right path, reading and learning are good ways of finding things you'd want to give your time to. (Although there is that feeling of aimlessly letting time pass in part of the Russian literature which might resonate with your own condemdrum - although it's liked to a very interesting political context) If you're lucky enough to set aside the "How am I going to get enough money to live the next X weeks/month/years?", it frees out that much time to answer the much more interresting questions : "What do I love enough to spend all this time time doing ?" "What would I like to understand and/or change about the world?" Volunteering to causes you discover you care about, be it open source projects or walking dogs for old people or anything in between can feel great!

Happy birthday

tech_tuna · 4 years ago
I'm guessing that you don't quite have enough to really commit too much to this, but have you considered spinning up a new start up?

I've been working at startups for decades but haven't been in the right place at the right time (no complaints, I've made a few hundred grand from options and I still may make more in the future) however I've worked with a number of people who have hit home runs.

Only a few of them have gone on to build their own startups from scratch though which is somewhat disappointing in my eyes. Of course, it's their choice but if I'm ever it that position, I'd definitely fork a new company as soon as the dust settled.

So. . . is it practical for you to start a new company and have you considered it?

senorsmile · 4 years ago
I highly recommend fatfire.reddit.com.

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nice-dutch-guy · 4 years ago
Happy Birthday! It appears currently you own just virtual money. ASAP get in contact with some private banking (those that represent rich people), they know how to lower the financial risks so that you can keep this fortune. Think long term, so do not burn this wealth on stupid items (like luxury cars) yet.

New friends can be very costly, indeed! Good advise is priceless.

Advise given by other people? Think: What is their financial status? Do they work with these type of questions? Just ask: What would they do with 10k of 100k. Most will burn it, short term! = WRONG

Like I never give medical advise, because I only finished first aid class.

tim333 · 4 years ago
Probably quite fun to have a small business / startup where you are the boss and hire a few people to solve some problem, maybe related to your previous employment but a niche they didn't cover?
neysofu · 4 years ago
This is quite literally my dream. FIRE, then scratch some niche itches of mine solving deep problems without ever worrying about profitability.
adv0r · 4 years ago
Same here, but without the meaningless feeling. Started like you, and quickly 6 months became two years. Now I have two kids that fill my day routine. And I too read philosophy and reddit a lot.

don't be sad.

megameter · 4 years ago
Take up martial arts. That's what I turned to after a windfall. I only stuck with it a year but it got me in the right frame of mind to continue feeling ambitious.
Rodeoclash · 4 years ago
Getting everything you want can be a curse! My belief is that humans need to struggle towards getting better and things. Maybe take up chess?
guytv · 4 years ago
Don't take up chess. it will consume every bit of your free time and give you a new sense of purpose, with lots of frustrations on the path... ;)
quickthrower2 · 4 years ago
You could consider angel investing too.

Edit: and travel the world. Maybe travel the world and angel invest ... startups outside the US would appreciate it!

jl2718 · 4 years ago
Find love. Make a family.

But first, you must shed al appearance of wealth, and don’t ever let anybody know about your money until your babies need it.

jack_pp · 4 years ago
Find something you don't like about the world and try to fix it. Your financial situation gives you a lot of freedom to pursue either tough projects or thankless (money wise) projects like open source. For me there's no better satisfaction than knowing I contributed something to make the world a better place

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thegypsyking · 4 years ago
Happy birthday! Man am I jealous, I think I’ll have to grind away all my best years at faang or worse.

I also love Russian lit, so so checkout Oblomov and Tolstoy shorter novels like the Death of Ivan Ilyich. I think you’d really like the japanese book Musashi as well (or the incredible Vagabond manga adapted after it)

Void_ · 4 years ago
I thought with fang you can retire in 10 years or so.
AnIdiotOnTheNet · 4 years ago
I think people overcomplicate this. Pick something you want to do and then do it. If you don't know what you want to do, then finding what you want to do is what you want to do. You have the luxury of choice, use it.
RickJWagner · 4 years ago
Don't pick the military!

If you have money, it won't be fun. And it's hard to un-do.

d0gsg0w00f · 4 years ago
I started my life as a carpenter. I loved it and would go back to it if money wasn't a factor. I'd love to be comfortable enough one day to flip/lease one house a year and do all of the work myself.
gkkirilov · 4 years ago
Invest in my startup :D haha joking

Great one, I would recommend not taking too long to get back in the game of goals as they keep you moving forward, also maybe start looking for a life partner if you haven't done yet.

Grustaf · 4 years ago
You could do worse than Russian literature. I did the opposite, moved to Russia instead of pursuing a career. Looking back, your order of doing things makes more sense...
a_imho · 4 years ago
Congrats, could you give a ballpark figure what is considered rich enough nowadays?

At 27 maybe you should look into spending more time with / starting a family?

vhhn · 4 years ago
consider starting a family :-)
philangist · 4 years ago
Ha! I've considered it and if I found the right woman and we had a relationship that was in the right place I'd definitely do it. But starting a family seems like one of those 'slow and steady wins the race' type of situations.
jablongo · 4 years ago
If you want to try angel investing in something meaningful, I'm happy to pitch you my nascent Biotech project...
bufferoverflow · 4 years ago
Helping people in need is always rewarding.

You don't have to do it with your own cash.

silentsea90 · 4 years ago
Lucky you! A lot of us older than you don't have that luxury :)
hairui · 4 years ago
what about "meaningful" work, like at the internet archive or Allen Institutes or something -- smaller paycheck, possibly impactful work
nathias · 4 years ago
I also got there a few times, but always got robbed.
the_greyd · 4 years ago
College sounds fun! Do it!
kakkan · 4 years ago
Happy Birthday!
ebanana · 4 years ago
happy birthday!!

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debruinf · 4 years ago
Super frustrated by the state of videos for kids on youtube, especially in the arts and crafts department, i decided to launch a channel and start creating my own content. Basically, all videos start half decent but for some reason end in a big noisy mess, weird sounds, spoiling food, questionable product placements, zero creativity and always incentivize more watching and trapping viewers in the infinite ‘next video’ loop.

Instead, one of the goals for my videos will be to take a step back and inspire to create, zero commercial interest, not too much distractions and something parents can trust.

Still in the process of figuring out all the parameters, camera, editing, setup etc but its a lot of fun learning new skills. I have a million ideas for the content already so enough work to be done. If there is little to no ‘success’ in terms of viewers, i really don’t care since i enjoy all aspects of it and im building a nice catalog of creative videos to watch with my kid later. I have no public videos yet (coming very soon) but here are two samples of what to expect:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_3e0tawk45E

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mBZStuxOUlc

truly · 4 years ago
Nice!

I have watched both videos and they are engaging (to me). I think they could use a little bit of more speed and some music or explanations. Also, you could show at the beginning what you are about to make.

I have recently needed to start drawing (nothing fancy) for my side project, and have found tutorials such as your first video on youtube invaluable.

skinkestek · 4 years ago
Agree with waalo.

For me the thing I enjoy is that you are setting realistic expectations, not being wasteful (I notice you start from the edge of the paper instead of cutting from the middle, etc.)

ljm · 4 years ago
The lack of any kind of commentary on the second video gives me strong ASMR-but-for-papercraft vibes.

I would watch that even as a grown-up.

debruinf · 4 years ago
For future reference, channel is live here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeeZEadhY0fNoVUgbYPfj3Q
andrey_utkin · 4 years ago
Great idea. Would you consider putting your contents into public domain?
debruinf · 4 years ago
Thanks for the kind words.

In principle I'm absolutely in favour of releasing it to the public. To be sure: do you mean the _content_ I create in the video or the _videos_ themselves (I wouldn't mind both, but just to clarify).

One of the things I want to add later are downloadable resources: PDFs with the drawings or cutting templates, so people can get a head start with e.g. colouring instead of having to do the drawing first.

waalo · 4 years ago
Good start. Keep at it!
maest · 4 years ago
Cool ideas for videos! Although I do feel like you'd benefit from some sound - commentary or music

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TaylorAlexander · 4 years ago
Hah this thread is perfect. I just finished building my new four axis robot arm design. It’s all open source. Three months ago I started playing with a new planetary gearbox concept, where the first stage is in the middle with second stages on both sides. The first sun is driven by a shaft that goes through a hole in the second stage sun. The result is a very balanced joint design with parallel outputs. A good configuration for weak materials like plastic. And then the gearboxes and the frame are all integrated together, so this is not something where you assemble a gearbox and bolt it to the frame. The gearbox members and the frame members are unified.

I’m very happy with it so far! Video here:

https://twitter.com/tlalexander/status/1455320442642714625?s...

It’s open source, CC0 licensed. Please fork the design files here!

https://cad.onshape.com/documents/d663661f8c0c34e7a29bbfa6/w...

EDIT: you may prefer to watch the project and wait to fork it until I have fleshed out a few more things. In that case feel free to star this git repo and I will update it as I make progress.

https://github.com/tlalexander/brushless_robot_arm/

nielsole · 4 years ago
Wow awesome. This is one of the most impressive arms I've seen. How much did it cost you to build? About how many newtons can you excert when fully extended? / What weight can you lift? What is your experience with backlash?

Definitely considering forking

TaylorAlexander · 4 years ago
Thank you! I had all the parts lying around and I’ve not put together a full BOM to calculate costs. But it’s two odrives and four brushless motors plus maybe $100-150 in bearings from AliExpress, then some screws and a couple kilos of PETG. So maybe $850 if you built it from scratch?

I haven’t done testing of its capabilities yet as I just got it working today. Also I am running at 24v but I want to try 48v when I can upgrade my odrive controllers to the 56v version.

Not sure about backlash either except joint 3 has bad backlash not due to gearing but from a fixable issue with the way the output connects to the frame.

But I am very happy with this design! I think it’s pretty promising.

romanzubenko · 4 years ago
In the beginning of the pandemic I've attempted to build a 6 axis arm from this project https://www.anninrobotics.com/

Overall great documentation, and the author also sells hardware kits so you don't need to source all gears by yourself.

fsckboy · 4 years ago
I count three axes, what am I missing? (considering the "stick" at the top "a finger" and moving down, I see the wrist rotation, the elbow rotation, and a rotation at the shoulder down on the desk)
TaylorAlexander · 4 years ago
So in the video you first see a section of movement using the second and fourth axes. Then after that the arm goes back to zero (sticking straight up) and you see the midsection rotate back and forth without the end section rotating. That’s the other two axes. There are also closer photos here:

https://twitter.com/tlalexander/status/1455100498428588036?s...

colecut · 4 years ago
My son's mom died of cancer last February, and two days later they found tumors in my then girlfriend/now late fiancee. She passed away last month.

I stopped working several months ago and have no immediate desire or need to go back to work.

I'm not sure if it's a blessing or curse to have so much free time to grieve.

Enjoying the downtime with occasional spontaneous bursts of tears.

Edit: thank everyone for the kind words. I put together this 4 minute tribute of our times together to honor her/us. She was beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB5_1mdTgcM

diskzero · 4 years ago
I am sorry to hear about the loss you have suffered. My situation is similar. My wife passed from cancer Oct. 1 and I have no desire to return to work.

Please feel free to reach out if you want to talk with someone in a similar situation to yours.

thr0w__4w4y · 4 years ago
Very touching video, your girlfriend/fiancee looked so positive, happy and joyful. Sometimes the randomness of the universe and the human body can be cruel and nonsensical.

I'm incredibly sorry for your loss. I'm happy that you had the time with this wonderful woman and that you have the memories, even though I'm sure right now everything is still raw. Godspeed.

sbuccini · 4 years ago
We’re here if you need someone to talk to. Reach out any time, my email is in my profile.
quetzthecoatl · 4 years ago
Sorry for your loss. Do whatever you need to make your days easier.
neysofu · 4 years ago
I'm so sorry. She looks so happy in this video.
grupthink · 4 years ago
It took me a few tries at parsing your situation. Holy shit. Big hugs to you, brother. Be strong.
colecut · 4 years ago
It's been a wild few years. My only sibling overdosed and died in 2019 as well, on Easter weekend..

There are some interesting similarities between heroin addiction and cancer..

I don't need anything from anyone but I appreciate the sympathy, the amount of views that my video received from this post is crazy. I'm very touched and I hope she is too.

paganel · 4 years ago
RIP and stay strong, there's some light at the end of the tunnel.
BrandonM · 4 years ago
I'm very sorry for your loss. May their memory be a blessing.
porker · 4 years ago
I'm sorry.

People are precious and our time with them even more so.

helloguillecl · 4 years ago
I'm very sorry for your loss. Beautiful video.
philangist · 4 years ago
My deepest condolences to you and your son for your losses.
agf · 4 years ago
I posted on a thread about burnout back in May about quitting my job[1] after nine years, this seems like an invitation to post an update.

I used the time off to travel around in a van, hiking, eating, camping, and visiting friends. I'm now back in the city and catching up all of the life stuff that I put on hold for the pandemic and / or travel -- minor remodeling, maintenance, friends I didn't really get to see during the pandemic, etc.

I've been making big-picture decisions about future work as I go but the next phase is to put in serious hours into the search (since I'm planning to move out side of my current network / FinTech). Looking to start something new sometime this winter.

If anyone has questions about taking a longer time off work (will be 6+ months for me) or about taking more time almost totally away from computers / tech (2+ months), feel free to thread Q's.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27124604

magneticnorth · 4 years ago
I would love to hear about your time almost totally away from computers - do you feel more excited about tech? Less burnt out? Or even more determined to move industries?

I read through your linked comments, and I think I'm in a fairly similar place to where you were - lucky to have had a high savings rate for long enough that I can afford a long break; maybe forever if I'm frugal, or switch to a less-well-paid industry - and this has made me feel like I'm probably in my last corporate tech job. I haven't pulled the plug yet and probably won't particularly soon, but I'd love your perspective about what's after that leap.

agf · 4 years ago
No, it was refreshing, but it wasn't really quite long enough to break the mental patterns that I'd built up for so long around computer / internet / use. I did come back excited to read HN etc., I was no longer tired of tech news.

I don't have really any advice for others in this stage yet, since I'm still right in the middle. I hope I move into my next job, whatever that turns out to be, I have more perspective on the post-quitting period.

lenova · 4 years ago
I'd love to hear more, specifically about moving outside of FinTech. Do you foresee yourself leaving tech altogther, or are you thinking about moving into another industry of tech?
agf · 4 years ago
No, I just want a big change within tech without totally invalidating the specific technical parts of my skillset. I would like to also be somewhere I believe positively in the impact of the company on the world overall, rather than just neutrally.
jrib · 4 years ago
Any surprises you wish you had planned better for?

If you are in the US, what did you do for health insurance?

What are you hoping is different outside of Fintech? Or do you just feel like it is time for a change?

agf · 4 years ago
Not sure what specifically you mean about surprises. I guess not?

I bought health insurance on the state marketplace where my permanent residence is.

Just feel like it's time for a change, and I'm willing to accept the likely paycut that moving into a less hot segment of the industry will likely mean.

heavyset_go · 4 years ago
Looking back, were there any warning signs about burnout that you noticed, and is there anything you would have done differently in hindsight?
agf · 4 years ago
I don't really have too many regrets about it, there would have been both advantages and significant disadvantages to leaving sooner.

Certainly being a bit less emotionally invested would have reduced the burnout, and lots of people stay motivated and do great work without that level of commitment.

dcz_self · 4 years ago
Too many ideas given the time, but now I'm focused on two:

1. Building an open source bicycle computer. It's been over 20 years since they arrived at the scene, and there still isn't one that you could hack! An outrage! No published sources yet, I'm getting stuck on not having much experience building physical things.

2. Getting rid of the directory hierarchy. I have 10K photos, 30K emails, 10000km of GPS tracks, and 10 years of chat logs. Why can't I find anything among them? I own a computer, after all. I have 10 folders called some variation of photos/Cologne/2020/flowers! Having to organize them myself is tedious and a fool's errand, so I'm leaning towards using a database as a file system, to let me just query for files. Geo queries using a map? Yes please. Selecting bounds on a timeline? Oh yeah!

Turns out I'm not alone, Microsoft tried this with WinFS, and failed. But the idea lives on: https://www.nayuki.io/page/designing-better-file-organizatio...

3. Writing. I hope I can find the time to expand on the above on my blog.

delegate · 4 years ago
I've been working on 2. since January.

All your photos, chats, e-mails, messages, health data (eventually all your data) into a single database, which can be distributed onto multiple removable 'volumes' (disks).

Plug in the volume and the db index is seamlessly merged and queries run on all the connected volumes. No files. No cloud. Data on your disks only.

There are processing nodes that run in the background indexing the content, finding people and locations in the pictures, chats.

It allows you to build up a fully search-able archive of all your data, which you can physically keep in a locker or safe.

But also, if you store and keep all your data on disks that you control, then many of the services that we use could just run as local apps on your server, reading and writing from your archive via an API.

Social apps are just two people's archives sharing content between each other, no 3rd party services required.

I worked a lot on it until about 1.5 months ago, when I got discouraged by how hard and big this project is. Breaking up with my girlfriend around that time did not help either.

But now I see you mention it and it's kind of inspiring, since I've been doing a lot of thinking and gathering strength for another crack at getting a prototype out.

It would be interesting to see what other people have been thinking/doing in this area.

But since there's at least one person who wants it, I might actually jump back to work ;) Thank you !

dcz_self · 4 years ago
Do you have any writeups/examples in the public?

I am on purpose not addressing the exchange of information between people – never considered it, no vision, would just confuse me.

I'm also not so keen on indexing. I'm envisioning this more as a file system layer, where data is added to the database as it gets saved. Ideally there would be no way to access the data outside of the database (that would cause desyncs and the need to reindex stuff). We don't need no POSIX file systems ;)

aydwi · 4 years ago
I can empathize with this to some extent. I realized that homebrew is too slow and bloaty for me, so I decided to write an alternative from scratch (also meant as a learning project).

Eventually got discouraged by the sheer amount of real-world workarounds and corner cases that need to be accomodated rather than some inexplicable technical hurdle. And broke up with my long-time girlfriend.

Now I have little desire to go back, and things just feel meh. I play basketball sometimes to keep my sanity.

bspammer · 4 years ago
For your second point, you might want to have a look at Perkeep: https://perkeep.org/

It supports the kind of queries you are after, but it’s a bit of a passion project and development is slow. What’s already there works well though.

dcz_self · 4 years ago
Thanks for confirming. I intended to check on perkeep, but my frustration never reached that point before.

I hope it can be adjusted to my needs: I expect I'm going to have to find solutions for tracking files' sources, for snapshots, and for remote/removable storage, in addition to all the UI work.

Doctor_Fegg · 4 years ago
Have a look at Bangle.js. It's nominally an open source smartwatch, but the difference between that and a bike GPS is just a handlebar mount. v2 has just gone on Kickstarter - I've ordered one specifically for bike mounting.
dcz_self · 4 years ago
Nice, thanks! Now I need to reconsider. My goals were to have 180+ days battery life and wired connectors, but maybe no one really wants those.
joshxyz · 4 years ago
Maybe the answer is tags/attributes for filtering, instead of nested directories? Could be more tedious but given the image recognition ArTiFiCiAl iNtElLiGeNcE maybe it could be easier
dcz_self · 4 years ago
That's what I'm thinking about too. Most directories are describing what's already available for the computer to extract: the place of something being created, the time of it, the source where it came from (e.g. who sent this as email attachment). Only a minority needs to be explicitly added, like emotional meaning ("my favorites"), or external organization ("experiment 1", "driver's licence"). While we can't use the computer for the latter, it's nonsense that we leverage computers so little for the former.
Zababa · 4 years ago
I think it is. Directory hierarchies are trees, tags are graphs. Trees are great when you need to optimise the physical retrieving time, but don't map well to stuff like pictures. For example, tags of who is in the picture are way better than making folders by person. Same thing for places.
drran · 4 years ago
StagesCycling Dash L50/M50 are open to hack: bootloader is not protected, SD card can be replaced, and ssh access is open (when device is connected by USB).
dcz_self · 4 years ago
Do you have any links confirming that? I'm failing to find any resources.
chalcolithic · 4 years ago
How much would you pay for a program that would help you do 2 way more effectively than just by querying it?
dcz_self · 4 years ago
That depends on how easily I could compile it, and how much more effective it would be than querying. At the moment I can't come up with anything better than queries.

I'm willing to part with some money to have someone implement it for me if I see there's demand.

benibela · 4 years ago
I want the opposite for 2.

Keep all my photos in the directory hierarchy, but have a tool to sort them and sync them between devices

If I sync it with rsync, I might accidentally delete important files. Git would sync properly, but then it keeps the data in the repo rather than the directory hierarchy

sideshowb · 4 years ago
I presume you've checked out the likes of Lightroom for photo organizing? Though don't let that put you off something better!
dcz_self · 4 years ago
Lightroom is closed and comes from Adobe, so it was never on my radar. Being able to modify the software is a must: photos are only part of the problem, so any solution must be open to integration with other sources of data.

It would have been interesting to see how it organizes the UI, but there's no demo version for Linux :P

tppiotrowski · 4 years ago
A 2D slippy map that shows sun and shadow around the world.

Today’s sunset around Puget Sound: https://shademap.app/#47.89056,-122.66785,7z,1635813675213t

sigil · 4 years ago
This is great! It’s been on my hacking project list for a couple years now. Glad to see it go. :)

I hike a lot. Figuring out exactly where & when sunset will hit is next to impossible in mountainous terrain.

Feature request, if you’ll entertain one: instead of a 1-bit sun vs shade, show a heatmap of sun angle. Think “interactive golden hour map” for photographers.

emilehere · 4 years ago
Nice! Was thinking it'd be cool to have a little tool that calculates the height of an object (tree, building, etc) given the length of its shadow and the time of day (GPS coords might also be necessary).

Seems like you've already performed most of the necessary calculations here.

SoftwarePatent · 4 years ago
Awesome site! I love moving around the sun like some kind of god.
ffitch · 4 years ago
It is very cool, will be using when planning morning or afternoon hikes in the mountains. Awesome job, thank you for sharing!
mxwsn · 4 years ago
That's so cool! It's inaccurate for Manhattan though ;)
tppiotrowski · 4 years ago
If you zoom in to city-block level you can see building shadows...
pinerd3 · 4 years ago
This is so cool, brightened my day - thanks for sharing :)
skunkworker · 4 years ago
This is awesome, I can definitely see landscape photographers using something like this in order to get the right timing for the shadows.
dontpanicdont · 4 years ago
That’s awesome man I have no idea how you made that well done
baud147258 · 4 years ago
nice
david927 · 4 years ago
Could we make this a monthly post, just like the Who's Hiring one? I miss that aspect of HN.
rootsudo · 4 years ago
100% we should. Work isn't the only thing a hacker should be doing.

It can be anything, from finishing something with a minimum amount of resources, broken code that somehow works or pure exploration and guessing e.g. phreaking or just finding a random telephone number that gives you goodies.

or, most especially life itself. No point of all work if no play.

atonse · 4 years ago
I LOVE this idea.

I am sure many on here are playing with the same "outside of programming" type ideas.

I've been a budding woodworker for the longest time and even though I keep going back to playing with some kind of tech thing outside my day job, I have been teaching myself how to draw faces (Loomis method), and trying to pick up woodworking again. Each of these require enough time but they're a welcome departure from the usual tech stuff (which I still generally enjoy but has been very intense, working on Pandemic-response projects)

ccvannorman · 4 years ago
+1 monthly would respond
Zababa · 4 years ago
I really love how humane this whole thread is. People often say here than they miss the old internet, in a way this thread feels like it.
vesuvianvenus · 4 years ago
Where is the user "dang"?

Dang deletes posts just for saying something simple like "yes" -- b/c apparently an upvote is supposed to serve that purpose.

but i suppose such rules are selectively enforced (and probably entails some bias, such as political view, etc.)

Taylor_OD · 4 years ago
I agree. This is more interesting and engaging than corporations posting their open roles.
siva7 · 4 years ago
Yes, this is much more at the spirit of HN
dontpanicdont · 4 years ago
Totally agree
junon · 4 years ago
They're already quite frequent, though idk about monthly. These are nice though, indeed.
hidden-spyder · 4 years ago
Emailing dang requesting for this to be made a monthly post might help us.
david927 · 4 years ago
I'll just start posting it at the same time as the Who's Hiring each month.
shime · 4 years ago
+1, this is a great idea!
philangist · 4 years ago
+1 would be a great idea
jmrm · 4 years ago
Yes, please!
thunkshift1 · 4 years ago
Yes, this would be nice idea!
kgin · 4 years ago
Yes please
kradeelav · 4 years ago
I would love this as well!
golergka · 4 years ago
Yes! That's one of the things that I think HN should take from lobste.rs.

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endorphine · 4 years ago
Yes yes yes!