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Ask HN: What Skills to Acquire in 2020?
What are some skills (technical or not) you think someone should consider acquiring in 2020?
chrissnell · 6 years ago
Some suggestions:

- Build something. A new workbench for your office. Fix up an old car. Build a pull-up bar in your garage. Use your hands, cut some wood and metal, and treat yourself to a new tool or two. Do this with every project and you will have a nice tool collection before you know it.

- Learn to take pictures on a manual camera. You can do this with a modern automatic camera if it has a manual mode. Learn about ISO, f-stop, and shutter speed and the interplay of those three variables. There's a fantastic multi-part tutorial on Reddit that can help you learn these things. I don't have the link handy but you can Google for it.

- Set a goal of cooking for yourself at least two nights a week and eating leftovers two nights a week. Buy a binder and some clear inserts and start to put together your own book of favorite recipes.

- Take a nightly walk.

- Listen to classical music. This one didn't come to me until my 40s but I finally realized: there's a reason that this music has been popular for 300 years. Opera is great, too. Listen to Mozart's "The Marriage of Figaro". Download the KUSC app and listen to the amazing Metropolitan Opera broadcast every Saturday morning at 10 AM Pacific.

tnel77 · 6 years ago
What blows my mind is how much I took my ability to cook for granted. So many people my age (millennial) can barely cook anything. I have friends who eat out every single meal of every single day. People give me weird looks when every single workday I have the same answer to “you wanna go out and get some lunch?” “Nope. I have leftovers!”
yibg · 6 years ago
I used to eat out almost every meal as well. It wasn't because I didn't know how to cook, and I even like cooking. The economics (monetary and time) just didn't work out for one person. I can't buy in bulk (at least not fresh produce) because there is only one of me, so the cost is about the same as eating out. It also takes me a while to cook, clean etc, which takes more time than just eating out some where or getting takeout.

However, when I'm in a relationship, we tend to cook a lot more. The economics works out better, lower incremental cost of 2 vs 1 at home but double the cost (nearly) eating out. Also with 2 people cooking / cleaning, the time it takes for 1 person reduces quite a bit.

astura · 6 years ago
> I have friends who eat out every single meal of every single day.

I have friends who do too but it's not because they don't know how to cook, it's because they don't like to and don't wanna bother and can afford the luxury of having someone else to do it for them.

geddy · 6 years ago
Funny thing about those people is they constantly complain about how expensive everything is, yet they spend frivolous amounts of money on what's probably the highest marked up item: food. Meal prep for a week for ~$75 and you're set. It would cost probably 4 times that (at least, depending on where you eat) to eat out, not to mention you don't know how it was prepared, and it's probably wildly unhealthy compared to if you just cooked it at home.

Take 2-3 hours on Sundays and cook some food. It's not hard.

oh-4-fucks-sake · 6 years ago
I guess I understand how many people dislike cooking, I guess. For me, it's a very creative, relaxing, rewarding, (and necessary) process in my life. For me, it's like coding, but with ingredients. Take a bunch of relatively trivial components, and combine them creatively into something complex, useful, even beautiful--inspiring. You generally follow "industry best practices", but there's plenty of room for interpretation or establishing your own patterns.
dfansteel · 6 years ago
I cook or eat left overs 6 nights a week at this point. Beyond saving a massive amount of money it's shocking how much better the steak I make myself is than one I can get out. Most cities have kitchen equipment stores (not just Bed Bath) that actually have cooking courses you can take.

Now "home made pasta" starts with flour and eggs.

neuroticfish · 6 years ago
I've been trying to learn to cook off and on for years now and I get so discouraged all the time because I'm still either overcooking or undercooking something, still not getting the flavors right, not using the right amount of oil despite the recipe's prescription. I can't be alone in feeling that way.
thrwaway69 · 6 years ago
I don't eat much when I cook for myself though. Not because I dislike the food, I don't have much of an appetite by the time it finishes cooking. I do love cooking for others and experimenting the hell out of weird cooking combos because why not. That's the most fun part, you pick a recipe and then you try to substitute ingredients but maintain the taste more or less the same. Eventually, you will understand flavors more and can create new recipes because you can learn about various ways in which you can cook the ingredient for using it as a different part in a dish.

Cooking edible food is easy for most people, they are either lazy or like me sometimes where their appetite is gone. Following recipes is more bothersome than you think for a lot of folks, programmers don't find it that bad given they are used to reading monotone instructions.

I was actually thinking about opening an online food service for people with diabetes/weight problems/specific goals where you can get good food delivered to your home. The recipes aren't that different for someone doing keto and suffering with diabetes type 2. They can generally be combined for example.

Finding ingredients for a keto low carb diet is hard if you are vegetarian/vegan and there is ton of problematic information out there. Recipes are not clear, it won't taste good and frankly speaking, it is expensive if you get the ingredients in low quantity due to the demand.

People need a dietician + food without jumping through many hoops. That way, More people can be healthy.

cloverich · 6 years ago
Some of those weird looks might be that they want your company at lunch occasionally!
MisterBastahrd · 6 years ago
What sucks about people not being able to cook for themselves is that they stop cooking interesting things and thus the supermarket produce section keeps shrinking. Yeah, some places like Whole Foods have large varieties of items, but there isn't one anywhere near my neighborhood. The local grocery store doesn't even sell radishes.
blackkat · 6 years ago
Indeed. You can give them the answer used in my family "Planned-overs"; where a sufficient quantity is cooked to plan other meals in advance.
asiachick · 6 years ago
I tried to save money once by making lunch and bringing it to work. My SO at the time who was much more frugal than me pointed out that eating lunch out (socializing) was much more important to them than the savings which over the course of a month was not that much, especially if you factor in the cost of time and that there were way more effective ways of saving money than giving up socializing time.

It was also boring (for me) in that in order to save time and money I'd end up having to make a larger portion of one thing and then eat the same thing all week.

woile · 6 years ago
For me it's quite similar, in the office they always tell me "Wow! That look amazing, I can't believe you do it everyday". Even when it's a salad with 3 ingredients
m3kw9 · 6 years ago
Eating left over for lunch at work is usually not a good experience as the only way to heat food is microwave, unless the food you bring is best reheated with one, or just have a cold salad or sandwich. As an aside, learn the best method to reheat food for each type of meal. Steak, spaghetti, fish, bread all have the best way to make it as enjoyable as possible.
clSTophEjUdRanu · 6 years ago
Same. Started cooking out of frugality and anything I can order or comes packaged is unhealthy. Cooking feels like the default, what normal people do. I was so wrong. None of my friends can cook even a simple meal without step by step instructions. Some can grill, and that's it. They just order food or eat something from a box every single day.
mannykoum · 6 years ago
What made my post-college mental state so much better (as well as my friends' quality of life) was that I forced my flatmates to cook with me all the time and we would have people over for lunch/dinner like I used to do back home, in Greece. Our stomachs and wallets are still thanking us to this day.

For context, I studied in the US and moved to London for work right after graduation.

asdff · 6 years ago
I rarely have time to cook which sucks, but I make the effort when I can and I've just bought fresh ingredients.

I get home around 6:30 and go to the gym in my apt until around 7:30, then after I've showered and had my protein shake it's now 8:00 and I'm tired. Prep to eating to cleaning up can take an hour or more for me, and I try to go to bed around 10 if I can to wake up for the next day at 6. If I have to go to the grocery store that can take another hour out of my free time after work. Morale is low, freetime for hobbies are low, and the only way to maximize this time without cutting into fitness or sleep is to go with a premade meal from trader joes and be done with it.

Homecooked meals made a lot of sense when you showed up at home at 5:30 with that pot roast your wife started at 2:30 steaming and plated for you on the table, but that's not the world we live in anymore.

inkeddeveloper · 6 years ago
I feel that's why food trucks became popular. Low barrier to entry (relative) and allows people that know how to cook quickly cook for those that don't.
smileysteve · 6 years ago
I also noticed this; my friends would eat out or eat a tv dinner every night; In the meantime, I was eating healthy chicken and veggies.
jelliclesfarm · 6 years ago
Instant Pot. Game changer.
billfruit · 6 years ago
Learn to enjoy poetry. There is so much of great poetry in English, but I think it is not being read and appreciated enough. It is a kind of mental challenge like doing a puzzle, to unlock the full vivid meaning.

Also reading fiction, though how exactly it helps one is beyond me, but it offers glimpses into other worlds. For example I read recently 'The French Lieutenant's Woman', I doubt its richness of detail, and evocation of place and time, etc can ever be captured in a film or even a miniseries, and on top of it is choc-full of tid-bits of information.

gozzoo · 6 years ago
I've been trying the same and each time I failed miserably. I just don't get it and certainly can't enjoy it. Can someone recomend good poetry sutable for highly analytical mind or a book about apreciating poetry?
tyscorp · 6 years ago
An easy way to get started is the YouTube channel Ours Poetica[1]. It's kinda like Audible but for poems (and free). Produced in collaboration with The Poetry Foundation.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv4-yypZ7srAlzk_MQCRaLQ

reaperducer · 6 years ago
A good place to start is with the Poetry Foundation: https://www.poetryfoundation.org

It's been around since the early 1900's and has lots of good articles and podcasts, even a poetry magazine.

If you're American, it's nice because it focuses a lot on American and Midwestern poets.

And if you're in the Chicagoland area, it has events and its new headquarters downtown is considered an architectural treat.

himanshuy · 6 years ago
Totally agree with you. Recently started moving from non-fiction to poetry and picked up "The Gift", Poems by Hafiz. It refreshing to see how much one can say with a few words.
whatshisface · 6 years ago
Is there any evidence that poems have meaning? I could easily imagine a world where poets fool themselves into thinking the words they wrote contained their intentions, while readers fooled themselves into thinking they had uncovered those intentions.
lkrych · 6 years ago
I second this.

Poetry is play and learning to play with language can open up new worlds. Here is a favorite of mine.

Again by Ross Gay

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/92019/again-586e779b0...

This book[1] compares poetry to music. There are many genres and styles of music, and it is likely that you don't like all genres. Enjoying poetry is about trying to find the "genre" of poetry that moves you.

[1] Don't Read Poetry: A Book About How to Read Poems - Stephanie Burt

mattrp · 6 years ago
> - Build something. A new workbench for your office. Fix up an old car. Build a pull-up bar in your garage. Use your hands, cut some wood and metal, and treat yourself to a new tool or two.

Be careful... my wife gave me a drill one year and I’ve since renovated two houses and now have a small fortune in tools.

If you don’t have a garage, basement or backyard for it, your local community college might have a “maker lab” with all sorts of high end woodworking, metal working, laser cutters and 3D printers...along with meetups and evening classes to boot.

amoorthy · 6 years ago
Btw, not as satisfying as woodwork perhaps but you can do small electrical projects around your house and feel a sense of accomplishment. e.g. installing dimmer switches. Turn off mains and then easy to follow instructions that comes with the switch. Just screwdriver and pliers needed. Save energy and house looks warmer. :-)
Tehchops · 6 years ago
I always found the "idea" of that kind of work enticing.

However, once I owned a house and had to do renovating/updating, I ultimately found it frustrating.

Some jobs are incredibly frustrating if you don't have the exact tool to make it easier.

The likelihood the angles and geometry of your home are square is, IME, near 0. Even measuring and re-measuring multiple times, I end up with a lot of wasted, mis-cut material.

YMMV, but I always found when you add up the time spent and material cost, it's nearly a wash to just pay someone else to do it.

Pigo · 6 years ago
I've started some woodworking projects. My first couple of attempts left a lot to be desired. It seems like a lot of it is just having the right tools. I mostly enjoy the sanding and staining part, or using a torch to weather proof it.

The other thing is I can't find good plans. If I have a plan to follow, it makes all the difference, I don't know enough to figure it out as I go. Like right now, I've been wanting to build a pool stick holder. Probably one that is on the ground, not attached to the wall. Even the sites I look at that have plans you pay for, they don't seem that helpful.

dahdum · 6 years ago
> Be careful... my wife gave me a drill one year and I’ve since renovated two houses and now have a small fortune in tools.

Started with a 3D printer for me, then a membership to Techshop. Few years later I have a garage filled with woodworking / metalworking, diy cnc machines, laser cutter, welding, and automotive tools. It’s a slippery slope.

8ytecoder · 6 years ago
+1 on all of the above. I just want to add one thing

- Learn an instrument. Just for fun. You don't have to play in an orchestra or a band.

I came to this thread expecting it to be about tech skills, glad to see this comment at the top. Overall, I'm more grounded and happier for it (and less depressed).

pawelk · 6 years ago
I am a hobby (unplugged) woodworker with a quite large collection of vintage tools... it all started because I needed some basic temporary furniture for the new house and w were broke enough to not be able to afford it - the kitchen I built is still around after 7 years and I have developed a lot in this area.

I use manual cameras, or digital cameras in manual mode / with manual lenses because that's how I learned photography in 1990's

I like to cook, 95% of our meals are home made, I can prepare a whole week worth of meals in abut 3 hours, including cleaning. I usually just improvise, my wife says I can make a delicious meal out of an empty fridge...

Yet music somehow eludes me - and it is THE thing I have always wanted to be proficient at way more than any of the above. I just don't have any idea how to approach it. Let's say I get a musical instrument - be it a piano (keyboard), a guitar, saxophone or percussion. What's next? Practice the notes until I'm "touch-typing" them? Then try to mix and match? Try to play some sheet music or repeat what I've heard before by brute-forcing? I am actually able to re-create a simple melody by trying the keys on a toy keyboard, but in all the other areas (woodworking, cooking, photography) I went almost straight to improvisation - which I enjoy the most - and I have the feeling that in music there is some set of basic skills required to unlock this, yet I don't know what it entails. Woodworking is all about hiding the imperfections, photography is about selecting the best shots / being prepared for lucky timing, and an imperfect meal can be (usually) fixed with herbs/spices/salt. Music is either spot on, or too far off to be tolerable - am I missing some middle ground opportunity here?

trianglem · 6 years ago
I’ve spent the better part of a decade trying to learn an instrument and I’m terrible at the guitar. I guess it’s just not for some people.
reaperducer · 6 years ago
Listen to classical music. This one didn't come to me until my 40s but I finally realized: there's a reason that this music has been popular for 300 years.

I agree. It's funny how when I was young I would only listen to one type of music, like it was some kind of tribal loyalty. Now I listen to all kinds of things, and I've learned to hear the difference between really good music and stuff that's just manufactured for corporations.

(Ironically, what got me to expand my musical horizons was Apple's corporate promotion, back when you used to get a free iTune each the week on the iTunes store, by picking up a card in Starbucks, or buying a bottle of Pepsi from the vending machine at work.)

Getting back to classical, I also recommend apps for KDFC/San Francisco, KING-FM/Seattle, RTBF Musiq'3/Brussels, RTHK4/Hong Kong, and RTÉ LyricFM (Dublin?). I used to be a WQXR/New York fan, but it lost its way after the New York Times sold it. I've heard good things about WRR/Dallas, but haven't tried it yet.

KING-FM-HD2 is awesome background brain lubricant when you're working on something hard and mathematical.

If anyone else has any favorite classical stations, please reply.

smush · 6 years ago
WRR has kept me through thick and thin.

My bookmark straight to the music streamer page is below uBlock a few of the banner ads and you are set.

http://player.listenlive.co/44461

vonmoltke · 6 years ago
In what way do you think WQXR lost its way? I went from 12 years of WRR to WQXR about 3 years ago, and I didn't notice much of a difference.
big_t · 6 years ago
Classical 101: WOSA/Grove City, OH
inform880 · 6 years ago
The cooking thing really hits home. I work in a high stress, banking environment at a fortune 500 company, and I eat out most days. I know theoretically how to cook, but between the time it takes to shop, cook, and clean, AND I'm doing well financially it's so hard to convince myself to cook. Living alone doesn't help either.
danenania · 6 years ago
Get a slow cooker and have your groceries delivered. You can make delicious, nutritious 1 pot meals that last you 2 or 3 days a pop with minimal prep time and cleanup.
ryanmercer · 6 years ago
Instant pot (best kitchen purchase I've ever made) and meal prep. There's entire subreddits dedicated to meal prep with a lot of good ideas.
a_bonobo · 6 years ago
If you have the money (and it sounds like you have), there are quite a few recipe box companies which send you boxes of ingredients and recipes every few days. It's a nice stepping stone towards fully cooking for yourself as it cuts out the shopping/deciding part.
balfirevic · 6 years ago
If you happen to enjoy it, cook. If you don't want to cook, you don't have to. It's also possible to eat healthily if you eat out, especially if you have enough money.
sangd · 6 years ago
I have done all of the above except the classical music. I find spending time to do meditation is more useful.

All of the above, I find cooking is an incredible skill that many people underestimate greatly.

Here are the things that I do for my cooking for every week or every two weeks.

+ 30-45 minutes grocery shopping including driving.

+ 30-60 minutes per day to cook daily dinner and prepare breakfast.

+ 10-15 minutes to clean up.

And what I think it solves/helps/improve our family daily life:

+ Food quality is definitely way better than outside. We have good amount of vegetable, fruits, fresh meat/fish/poultry and other dairy products.

+ Lots of time saving for not going out, spending time waiting, driving, moving the whole family around.

+ The cost is very low, probably around 1/3 of eating out.

We do spend a day or two to eat out or eat carry-out food.

While this takes time (months/years) to get a good skill at cooking and minimizing the time, this is so far one of the best skills I have had and I do think people should invest in it.

chrissnell · 6 years ago
That's awesome! I forgot to mention this in my top-level comment but if you're ever interested in cooking some Tex-Mex, I have a recipe book for you. My grandmother wrote this in the early 1970s and it was regionally famous in the part of Texas where I grew up. She died when I was young and my aunt inherited the ownership of the book. I asked her for permission to make it freely available and she said OK. I had plans to translate it to TeX but never got it finished. I did put up a PDF scan of the original that you can download:

https://chrissnell.com/cookbook/womc.pdf

Hope you enjoy it as much as I did. For newcomers to the book, I highly recommend the cheese enchiladas recipe and the anticuchos recipe. Anticuchos are not authentic Tex-Mex but they are very much tied to San Antonio and that recipe is probably the best in the book if you make it with good quality steak.

8ytecoder · 6 years ago
Agreed, no one in my friend circle cook any more. I learnt it out of necessity - I missed home cooking and then became vegan which made me realise the lack of creativity of the chefs when it comes to vegan food. Now I love cooking just for the sake of it.
mattjaynes · 6 years ago
For the "learn to take pictures on a manual camera" suggestion, this is probably the reddit multi-part tutorial: https://www.reddit.com/r/photoclass/ (scroll to the bottom for the first lesson)
Spellman · 6 years ago
They also just started their 2020 series here: https://www.reddit.com/r/photoclass2020/

They'll slowly post the next step of the guide throughout the year. Subscribe and follow along to learn!

chrissnell · 6 years ago
Yes!! This is the one. This class taught me so much. I went from a photographer that ended up with garbage 90% of the time, to one that can usually get the shot. Glad to see that they now have a 2020 class, too.
brenden2 · 6 years ago
+1 to taking walks. Having a dog makes this really easy, because you have to take them out 3-4 times/day. Or at least, you really should.
akerro · 6 years ago
>- Listen to classical music. This one didn't come to me until my 40s but I finally realized: there's a reason that this music has been popular for 300 years. Opera is great, too. Listen to Mozart's "The Marriage of Figaro". Download the KUSC app and listen to the amazing Metropolitan Opera broadcast every Saturday morning at 10 AM Pacific.

How is this a skill?

SQueeeeeL · 6 years ago
Agree with the sentiment, the answer is just soapboxing life advise, not really answering. But being able to focus on/appreciate classical music is a skill, hearing the different instruments and such.
djannzjkzxn · 6 years ago
Appreciating anything that you aren’t already a fan of is a skill. You can also develop the skills of enjoying hip hop, metal, spaghetti westerns, rock climbing, etc.
omar12 · 6 years ago
Cooking is one of my favorite activities that I'm actually decent at. One "cooking sin" that I do is that I don't taste my food throughout cooking. The general feedback on my cooking has been positive.

When I try and cook new dishes, I do it by theme. The theme can be:

* Ingredients (eggs, poultry, grains, tomatoes)

* Courses (breakfast [eggs, pancakes from scratch], dinner, desserts [flan, custard]

* Execution (baking, sauté, oven)

* Cuisine (Mexican, Thai, French, Puertorican)

You will easily overlap the themes the more you cook, the themes are a starting point.

Two of my favorite books that the audience here might appreciate are The Food lab[0] and Cooking for Geeks[1].

* [0]: https://www.amazon.com/Food-Lab-Cooking-Through-Science-eboo...

* [1]: https://www.amazon.com/Cooking-Geeks-Science-Great-Hacks/dp/...

jmeyer2k · 6 years ago
The nightly walk part is really life-changing. We need time to process what happens in the day and a walk is a great way to do that.
brianna_dickey · 6 years ago
Einstein walked on the beach when he needed to work out complex problems. Steve Jobs preferred to conduct meetings while walking. Tchaikovsky took a walk every morning, before sitting down to work on his music. Charles Darwin walked twice a day to process ideas... turns out that walking boosts cognition and creative thinking.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/how-think-about-exer...

sharadov · 6 years ago
Learn to make basic cocktails ( manhattan, old-fashioned). Get good spirits, quality mixes ( cannot emphasize this enough), fresh herbs and you got yourself a great skill.
chrissnell · 6 years ago
Definitely. Like a good set of tools in the workshop, I love to buy new spirits every time I have a cocktail night with friends. I have a liquor cabinet full of strange aperitifs and whiskeys. It's very fun to learn. I should find an app that lets me build a virtual liquor cabinet and gives me ideas for new drinks that I can make with what I have.
shpongled · 6 years ago
Re: cooking -

What are you guys eating if you're not already cooking/eating leftovers 4+ nights a week? This is absolutely mind boggling to me... I eat out maybe 1-3 times per month, I don't think I would even want to go out more than that.

Are people actually eating out 3 or more times a week? I'm convinced that you aren't actually saving that much time vs cooking.

nkozyra · 6 years ago
I cook most nights and frankly am starting to see the appeal of frequent dining out.

I cook for three and that's generally in the 10 minutes prep, 20-45 minutes cooking, 15+ minutes cleaning. And that's dinner. It adds up. Eating truly fast food takes 5-15 minutes.

If fast food were reliably better for you I think it would be a wash. Financially I used to order out in NYC and get two+ days meals out of a single Indian seamless order for $30 and no cooking time.

The compromise, I think, is cooking a meal 2x quantity and freezing half for a week, but then you get into some very tiresome food routines.

brailsafe · 6 years ago
I discovered at 22 (now 28) that most cities have young person and student programs for inexpensive tickets to the symphony. $20 for any ticket in the house is a great way to spend 10 or more nights a year.
m-p-3 · 6 years ago
> Listen to classical music.

It also open the doors to so many other genres as well that you might not appreciate as much than when you enjoy classical.

Post-rock is mostly instrumental and some bands uses classical instruments to complement the guitar, bass and drum. It's an interesting mix

an example from a recent album I listened this week: https://besides.bandcamp.com/track/ich-bin-wieder-da-2

rewq4321 · 6 years ago
+1 walks and cooking healthy meals.

> Build something.

Build something that the world actually needs. Something where you're using your unique skills and privilege to help improve the world a bit - help others who are a few rungs below you.

Have a plan for how you're going to do the most good you can with the time you have left. Helping others (humans and sentient non-humans) is the best path to long-term happiness in my opinion.

TheCapn · 6 years ago
A reddit user (which I cannot remember) said it best imo. The way they put it was (loosely quoted) "Create something. It doesn't have to be anything physical, you can create experiences for people".

If woodworking or car repair isn't your jam, volunteer to help the needy. Or if you like the stage join a drama club or comedy club or whatever else you can do to enrich other people's lives.

amatern · 6 years ago
Cooking: while in grad school we started a cooking club, which has since evolved into a cookbook club. One person chooses a cookbook, and then tells the group which main dish they will prepare. Others chime in with side dishes, desserts, etc. The group gets together to discuss the book, the challenges, the triumphs, etc. It is one of the things I look forward to!
linsomniac · 6 years ago
Agreed. The skill I'm working on this year seems to be woodworking. I made my wife a little box to put her Christmas present in, and designed and built a storage system for the garage over the holidays. Now I'm working on building a new set of workbenches for the garage to replace the ones the previous owner built.
brodouevencode · 6 years ago
It's bloody addictive isn't it? I started out doing cutting boards and my last commission was to make a custom poker table.

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trianglem · 6 years ago
- I take commission based wood working projects - Cannot use a manual camera - Wife cooks most nights - always take a nightly walk with my dog - listen to classical music with my baby everyday

I’m not doing too badly by this list and I’m relatively happy.

agumonkey · 6 years ago
Where do you live ? Nightly walks do seem lovely (i tried twice), but I always have the potential mad person around in mind. City or forest.

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triangleman · 6 years ago
Bringing up Mozart is somewhat ironic, as he is basically the first pop music artist. A lot of his stuff is just catchy tunes.
localhost · 6 years ago
I would say focus on building a solid, functional body vs. say focusing on goals like "how much can I lift?" or "how much do I weigh?" or "how fast can I go?". Those goals, while laudable, can also cause you to break down your body in your quest to achieve them.

An example from literally yesterday. Over the past few months, I struggled with medial knee pain that was limiting my ability to walk up stairs and do other activities (see other list of goals from above). I had a bunch of observations (pain only when going up stairs, pain goes away oddly enough when running up stairs, clicking noise in knee before onset of pain) but I hadn't spent time trying to root cause it.

I had done a bunch of Google searches but to no avail (with scary things like surgery showing up on the list). But then of all things the YouTube algorithm came to the rescue and recommended this: [1]. Turns out it was a weak Gluteus Medius that allowed my femur to rotate medially which in turn caused the kneecap to track in an unnatural way. Once I knew this, I "fixed" it in a day. But it won't stay "fixed" unless I focus on strengthening that muscle.

Figure out what you need to do to provide you with sufficient functional strength, focus on root causing pain and then addressing it. Don't ignore the foundations of your body.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbe_DqMJfzg

relativeadv · 6 years ago
There is beauty to the simple goal of "I want to lift x amount one day." Instead of worrying yourself to death over whether you are "functional" or not. I've seen so many regulars at my gym over the years still doing the same stuff, still looking the same, still lifting the same, still doing kettlebell goblet squats and farmers walks and step-ups and whatever else have you.

I realize what an elitist knob this makes me sound like but I decry all of this because I've been there before and made the same mistakes. I like your example because you mention a specific issue you had that you then went on to fix. I know of many who train this way when they have no ailments whatsoever.

y-c-o-m-b · 6 years ago
"I want to lift x amount one day" is not for everyone, it's what lead me to destroy my spine. I went years without any problems and I was in the best shape of my life, but I never thought about the level of compression my spine was taking on.

I ended up having multiple bulging discs from C5-C7, a severe disc herniation in T8-T9 (which happened mid workout, very painful), L4-S1 herniations and L4-L5 breaking away chunks of my vertebrae. I eventually had to get emergency surgery on C5-C7 due to the narrowing of spinal cord.

I still "work out" with resistance bands, but I'm never allowed to properly lift weights again thanks to my foolishness. It's horribly depressing and I don't wish this on anybody.

Moral of the story is you might be just fine and have the skeletal structure to support lifting, or it could be a ticking time bomb like in my case. Lifting goals should carry disclaimers about the possible dangers.

gassiss · 6 years ago
Nothing wrong to be exercise regularly without progression. I wouldn't be surprised if this was even better than going ham on the gym because of how little exercise the human body actually needs to be considered healthy.

Not saying there is nothing wrong with having lifting goals either. But there are definitely diminishing returns to your health in regards to the amount/intensity of your exercise routine for sure.

mrcnkoba · 6 years ago
I became much happier once I realized that I'm not an athlete and I don't need to have a goal of "I want to lift x amount one day". This has been freeing for me. I started focusing more and more on fixing certain parts of the body (like tightness of pecs, weak glutes, weak transverse abdominis etc - 99% of the people at the gym has it, but they are not aware of it).

So I really think if you are an athlete/ex-athlete and you really know how to train - go for it. My main goal was not to have a back pain ever again.

asdff · 6 years ago
Nothing wrong with avoiding lifting heavy if you are satisfied with your size. At that point it's maintenance. Even professional body builders get devastating injuries, and if they get devastating injuries while doing a supervised squat with two spotters, then I don't trust myself to go for PR in the squat rack unless my form with the current weight is absolutely effortless. There isn't even a point for me to go for PR; I'm not getting a gold metal but I could end up with a hernia.
quickthrower2 · 6 years ago
Are you saying it’s a mistake to keep training without a goal to lift more?
clSTophEjUdRanu · 6 years ago
Funny. When I shipped to Marine boot camp I was frightful my minor knee pain would get worse. Turns out I was just a wimp. Pain disappeared with exercise. I also had acid reflux and stomach problems for years that disappeared.

Every single ailment that I've had that is not an injury disappeared when I got into shape (and read Sarnos book).

gassiss · 6 years ago
I've been feeling pain in my right elbow for a couple of years now. Doctor diagnosed as carpal tunnel syndrome.

You know the picture. Spent tons of time playing video game and works in an office since forever. I can't afford physical therapy, but working out + good posture makes the pain goes away "magically".

I say "magically" because I am not doing anything to target it, just go to the gym and literally do whatever for 30-40 minutes every other day.

joshdance · 6 years ago
Which book?
LZ_Khan · 6 years ago
I thought I was special in this philosophy but seems like others are catching on too. The tip that worked for me is "Do the activity to get that type of body." I've always admired the physique of basketball players like Steph Curry so I picked up basketball a few years back. It's done wonders for my posture and aesthetics and basketball is a fun kickass workout.

Swimming/soccer/tennis are other sports I'd put in the category of aesthetically pleasing.

nautilus12 · 6 years ago
Rock climbing and/or swimming are great ways to achieve these goals. The nature of the sports are such that it pushes the body hollistically.

Plus rock climbing is fun and mentally challenging, like chess with your body.

TheHegemon · 6 years ago
I would second this. I took up bouldering and it's amazing how much more energy I have. My lower-back pain from sitting has nearly disappeared.

It's a true full-body workout (including the brain).

elbear · 6 years ago
I would add buying a kettlebell and starting to do swings and Turkish get-up. They're energizing and work almost your entire body in a functional way.
starpilot · 6 years ago
I'd add hiking or running to this. I've seen my coworkers get winded walking hilly sidewalks, any type of ambulatory work is at the heart of human function.
tomaskafka · 6 years ago
For others reading this - this is what good physiotherapists do. Changing the movement patterns and balancing the body instead of prescribing painkillers.
astockwell · 6 years ago
Love Jeff’s stuff, there’s a reason he has such a following. His deep dives into pelvic tilts and shoulder issues have been a huge help to me also.
agumonkey · 6 years ago
I'd love to know more about biomechanical readjustment
pranit10 · 6 years ago
you had a medical issue and instead of going to doctor you went on the Internet? hmm not sure I am going to take any advice you give
nske · 6 years ago
The reality I've seen is that most doctors can only help with small/very specific issues of this kind if it's something they happened to had encountered before. Otherwise they will send you on a trip for multiple exams and in the end tell you there's nothing particularly wrong and should just bear with it till it becomes worse. Doing our own research or reaching out to others -none of which is mutually exclusive to consulting doctors- often pays out. Remember the experience of Patrick Volkerding? http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2004-November/01390...
stakkur · 6 years ago
Marcus Aurelius' Stoic idea of winning the morning.

This means doing your best to make the most of the first part of the day: arise early and jump into doing the most important tasks of the day. Practice good habits. Then, as the day expands and becomes less in your control, you've 'won' the morning.

I use 'win the morning!' almost as a mantra, and just that single, simple idea been life-changing.

cactus2093 · 6 years ago
I like the sound of this but what does it look like in practice? By "arise early" are we talking like 4 or 5am, or just early enough to get to the office slightly before 9am and be the first one there by a few minutes? By "jump into the most important tasks of the day", would you consider working out to be one of those? It's important in the long run to do consistently, but on a given day it's not usually what I would list as my most important task.

I guess what I'm saying is, I feel like if you put the right spin on almost any series of morning activities you can call it winning the morning. So it's not very prescriptive advice that I can use to be more productive. It's almost a tautology - to be more productive, start your day by being productive.

asdff · 6 years ago
For a lot of people, being 'productive' to them means burning the midnight oil which is hardly actually productive. If you do things when you are alert it makes them more effective. It also gives you the rest of the day to just breath and not be hard on yourself for getting tired and your performance faltering throughout the day; after all you got all that stuff done earlier. Ever have a weekend when you got everything you needed to do done by noon? The day becomes yours and you feel like a superhuman.
bardworx · 6 years ago
You can nitpick any idea into oblivion but the gist is: figure out what is the most important thing for you to do in the morning to be productive and do it.

And if going to the gym in the morning makes the rest of your day productive by providing you with lots of energy and a clear head, then yes, going to the gym is the most important and productive for you to do in the AM.

stakkur · 6 years ago
You get to decide. Wake up early enough to get done what needs doing. Do the important things first. Make the most of the morning hours.

You might like this newsletter/podcast: dailystoic.com

seddin · 6 years ago
I highly recommend watching this lecture about Marcus Aurelius https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5897dMWJiSM
mygo · 6 years ago
Thank you for this
hug · 6 years ago
Along the same lines: Eat the frog.

"If it's your job to eat a frog, it's best to do it first thing in the morning. And If it's your job to eat two frogs, it's best to eat the biggest one first."

- not Mark Twain.

sq1020 · 6 years ago
Great advice. Waking up early at the same time every day even the weekend does wonders.
koheripbal · 6 years ago
"Rise to Victory" is the way I teach my kids to wake up in the morning.

Setting a central focus for the morning, and working to accomplish it before noon is critical. If I cannot finish whatever it is, I usually become so incensed that that drive lasts me the rest of the afternoon.

...and I track every day in my Google Docs journal. I lay out the thing I want to accomplish that day, and then just break it out to the steps needed to accomplish it before the day gets filled with distractions.

It turns out, this simple journal is the one habit I've that's lasted more than a year - it's become invaluable. of all the GTD, Pomodoros, Google tasks, etc... ...all I ever needed was a list in a doc that was broken into dated sections.

sdinsn · 6 years ago
I agree with this- my day is always more productive if I get started early.
striker_axel · 6 years ago
I have also started doing this 1. Taking a good amount of water 2. Exercise 3. Practicing piano Whether my day was good or bad I feel complete by EOD
Havoc · 6 years ago
I don't recall seeing that? Do you remember what chapter that is in?
stakkur · 6 years ago
Book 5 of Meditations.
kerkeslager · 6 years ago
Starting conversations with strangers.

Squat and deadlift.

Eating healthier.

Doing something kind for someone else every day.

Honesty.

Listening to people you disagree with.

Driving safer (this is the most dangerous thing we do on a regular basis).

Meditation.

deepGem · 6 years ago
I will add Kettlebell swings to Squat and deadlift. They are one of the best all round exercise for muscle development particularly around the lower back and for cardio as well. In fact, I haven't come across a full body muscle building and cardio exercise that can match Kettlebell swings.
michaelbrooks · 6 years ago
Burpees are one of the best movements for all-around muscle development and the best thing is you don't need any weights.

If you can perform a full burpee (from standing to the floor) then the benefits are huge. You can also scale and go from standing to plank position or use a swimming pool (stand in the pool near the edge, jump onto the ledge and then back into the pool and go into squat position underwater).

bradgnar · 6 years ago
TURKISH GETUPS!!
cgh · 6 years ago
Yes, heavy two-handed swings were a game-changer for me. I am a climber and I don't think it's any coincidence that 5.13- and V8 became "easy" after incorporating these into my routine. I had a very weak posterior chain. It's funny, when you do an actual sport-specific strength assessment, it often seems your weaknesses are not what you thought they were.
someguy101010 · 6 years ago
Truthfully I dont think there is any reason for a regular person to deadlift. It's a pretty high risk exercise and you can hit those muscles groups with different exercises. If you are hard set on deadlifts though I recommend the hexbar deadlifts to reduce the chances for injury.

https://youtu.be/TU2xZ7s4jus

eindiran · 6 years ago
The deadlift is one of the most well-rounded, important lifts out there. I don't understand what you mean by "regular people"; are you saying that only eg powerlifters should do deadlifts and that casual lifters should avoid it?

IMO anyone interested in developing their strength (that is physically able to deadlift) should learn how to do them safely and then work on them.

Rippetoe laying out how to do a deadlift: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwQQZCi6OHA

JamesBarney · 6 years ago
I don't know about squat and deadlift. I'm in my mid 30s and 20-40% of my friends who squat and deadlift had to stop because they injured their back in the last couple of years. All of them looked like they had great form and half had gone to a trainer as some point to make sure their form was good.
kerkeslager · 6 years ago
Any athletic pursuit is going to injure you eventually.

Not pursuing any athletics is going to kill you and make the late years of your life frustrating a you lose capabilities. And you'll probably get injured as your body deteriorates.

You choose.

brodouevencode · 6 years ago
Almost certainly mobility issues. Im almost 40 and still squat at least once a week.
bluntfang · 6 years ago
Is it possible they were going for ego lifts? From your examples, do you know the weight they were lifting for each exercise?
mesaframe · 6 years ago
Starting conversations with strangers.

But how?

I have anxiety and it's really difficult to talk to strangers.

Edit:I would also like to mention. I talk very less reason being whenever I tell people honestly about my feelings. Later or sooner they use it against me.

ryanmercer · 6 years ago
Start at work if you aren't remote "Hey I'm mesaframe over in department, what department are you in?" in the break room or hall (NEVER the bathroom if you are male, NEVER, please watch Male Restroom Etiquette to learn the ramifications of talking in the bathroom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzO1mCAVyMw )

Or if you stop for coffee some place regularly, eat some place regularly, etc ask someone that serves you regularly how their day is. For years I used White Castle for my socialization. I'd go in every Saturday and Sunday morning and order the same thing and would chat to the employees once I'd established myself as a regular. Similarly some friends and I had a Denny's waitress that we eventually followed to another location and then even to another restaurant chain as we were there so much at night that we became friends with her.

It was super easy to for me to become friendly with a specific individual when I would see them over and over with small exposure doses.

kragen · 6 years ago
I've talked to strangers about Boolean algebra, the weather, how long the bus is taking, the slogan on the bag they're carrying and how it relates to their calling in life, and so on. I dated a girl for about a year that I met on the train and started a conversation by joking with her about filler phrases she had used in a cellphone conversation. And of course evangelists are always willing to talk about theology.

I think most people are eager to be heard, eager to talk about their experiences and feelings (even trivial ones like being impatient for the bus to arrive), and lonely. But most people are preoccupied and in a hurry much of the time. You have to be paying attention at a moment when they are willing, and then be able to give them what they want.

ibeckermayer · 6 years ago
It’s a skill and like any other skill it becomes less anxiety inducing the better you get at it. You could start with complete strangers at (say) a coffee shop, so that if you get embarrassed well it doesn’t matter, you’ll never see them again (this is how I improved). Also, learning how to be rejected and bail out is part of the skill. I still get into awkward situations sometimes, but it’s happened enough that I can cut the conversation off and the embarrassment doesn’t bother me all that much
mygo · 6 years ago
Remember that one time that one random person struck up a conversation with you and it was awkward and you never saw each other again?

Me neither. People generally don’t remember these things.

Strike up a conversation and it doesn’t go well? It may feel like the world is falling apart at that moment, but you can rest assured it will be forgotten, and sooner rather than later. And you may get a sense of accomplishment just from going through the motions and doing it.

Strike up a conversation and maybe make a new friend? Awesome :)

thetanil · 6 years ago
I also have anxiety. The way you deal with it is to talk with strangers. Start by expressing yourself more with the people you are already comfortable with. Something you might normally not share. Then start with chit chat with people who are less familiar. You will be chatting comfortably with people you don't know in no time. Isolating yourself is the wrong way and will lead you to dark places. I know. I'm better. It's scary, uncomfortable and totally worth it.
asdff · 6 years ago
Start living life head first. I hate speaking too, but I put myself out there and make myself do it, because you really have nothing to loose. Life is sporadic and impermenant. You try and strike up a conversation with a stranger, fail, move on, the next day you've both forgotten eachother's face, the next week you've both forgotten about the event entirely. Most conversations don't matter at all.
HatchedLake721 · 6 years ago
Start simple - ask people on the street what time it is. It’s a simple opener that should help you with your anxiety, and you’ll see nothing bad happens.
ai_ia · 6 years ago
"Here, pick a card. Any Card. Don't let me see it."

Dead Comment

phowat · 6 years ago
From this list, the thing I struggle most with is conversations with strangers. Any suggestions on how to improve that?
hluska · 6 years ago
Here’s a neat trick. When you’re at a party, meetup or other social event, don’t approach people standing alone. Instead, approach people in groups of two, say hello (or give a quick little glass tink ‘cheers’) and introduce yourself. A large large amount of the time, one of those two people want OUT of the conversation and you’ll be that out.

That’s a great low risk drill to get started. It’s low risk because it works and you’re in an environment where respectful interruptions like that are acceptable. Good luck and if you get stuck, feel free to reach out.

komali2 · 6 years ago
Read "How to Win Friends and Influence People."

Let go of pride and ego.

Find something the person may be very interested in, and get them talking about it.

"I can't help but notice that watch, can I ask you about it?" (Anybody asking about my watch is an instant friend. WHY WONT ANYBODY NOTICE MY WATCHES??)

"This might be weird but I need a new barber, where do you get your haircut?"

"Yooo where did you get that sweater?"

"You carrying golf clubs around the city? There a course I don't know about?"

"Is that a defcon sticker?"

Something unique about them. Find it, ask about it. Easy to practice. Just do the find it step to random people during your commute.

dmichulke · 6 years ago
"Hi , my name is .. <reach out hand for handshake>. What you've been up today?"

- Start conversion with something you notice about the other person, the event, the surroundings ("the color of your watch matches with your sweater - stylish!", "is this stuff boring or is it just me?", "you know why they put that thing over there?")

- Topics: Family, Occupation, Recreation, Dreams

- Repeat the last few words of the other person and look asking. The person will continue the subject s/he's talking about

- Connect and imagine the other guy. "I am a writer" - "A writer! I always wanted to be one but always stop after one page of writing. I imagine you must be very disciplined"

- Avoid RAPE (Religion, Abortion, Politics, Economics)

- You can always say nothing and just stay there. Often the other person picks up the conversation once you're past a few minutes.

- Try looking people into the eye while walking around, and force yourself to not look away. This is a nice training for looking strangers in to the eye in a cold approach. Once you got that, talking to strangers becomes much less intimidating.

- Eventually people will ask you what you do for work / or what you did today. Have something ready that sounds interesting.

lwhi · 6 years ago
Don't be afraid of looking like an idiot
kerkeslager · 6 years ago
Well, one thing is just a mindset thing: as long as you go in with kind intentions, there's almost no way anything can go wrong. Maybe the person you talk to will be bored or uninterested, but that is a good thing because a) you've chipped away at your social anxiety a little, and b) you can check them off your mental list of potential friends/contacts/whatever.

As for tactics: just ask questions. Everybody likes to talk about themselves. Eventually, you'll get good at finding out what interesting things people have going on in their lives (most people have something).

orbz · 6 years ago
- Meetups with like-minded individuals

- Board game/trivia group at your local bar

- Join Toastmasters

collyw · 6 years ago
Alcohol.

Secondly, be more interested in listening to the other person than in talking about yourself. Most people want to talk about themselves.

isop · 6 years ago
Practice makes perfect. Have you tried going to things on meetup? It's sort of expected to meet strangers on there so it's a great environment to meet new people.
heinrichhartman · 6 years ago
deadlift's are quite dangerous for the untrained.

Start with "Fix Rounded Shoulders" and "Fix Anterior Pelvic Tilt" if you have not already done so. Plenty of great advice on YouTube on those topics.

kerkeslager · 6 years ago
> deadlift's are quite dangerous for the untrained.

It's odd to me you picked deadlift to call out as dangerous.

The deadlift is certainly dangerous, but only in the sense that almost any large lift is dangerous for the untrained. But in my experience, the deadlift is a very natural motion for me and most people who I've seen get into lifting heavy. Fixing people's natural instincts is usually just pointing out a few cues--if you look up deadlift workshops most are are only an hour long. And if you are lifting too much weight, you just drop it.

The squat is a much more complicated motion: squat workshops are usaully full-day events, and the ways it breaks down tends to change as you add weight, so just getting the form is a long-term process. It's also a more dangerous lift if you have too much weight because you're under the bar.

texasbigdata · 6 years ago
Even then not necessarily sufficient. Source: worked with a trainer on this for months after pulling my back at a crossfit years earlier and still having lingering effects. Sitting a ton creates, or can create, large hip inflexibility, tight hamstrings, etc. If budget and space isn't a material constraint, get a hexbar... it will lessen some of the impact on your back.

Deadlifting (and squatting) is arguably the most important full body exercise you can do, and the staple of every single marvel super hero body transformation, but the risk threshold is fairly high for a beginner.

If you want to stretch, try ROMWOD. A bit intense but likely the most impactful in terms of results.

tootie · 6 years ago
One of my favorite web 1.0 sites that's still kicking it old school: https://exrx.net/

Detailed workout guides and clear, simple visuals of proper form on hundreds of exercises.

Dumblydorr · 6 years ago
I train deadlifts by using the lightest possible weights and doing 2 sets of practice reps. Focus on keeping the spine stable, use legs to push the weight up. Don't add weight until you video record yourself and ensure your back and hips are on point. Back needs to not bend, and hips need to thrust forward, bar path vertical, close to the body as that's our center of mass. Ensure your sternum stays on the same plane as your stomach and neck, keep the upper back from rounding.
raverbashing · 6 years ago
They are not "quite dangerous", they're safe if you can follow the form correctly

Yes, they're not really a beginner exercise

> "Fix Rounded Shoulders" and "Fix Anterior Pelvic Tilt"

Build strength bit by bit instead of follow every Athlean-X nitpick ;)

moltar · 6 years ago
Watch Mark Rippetoe videos on YouTube. He has excellent, science-backed explanations for all major movements. Also quite a character.
MFLoon · 6 years ago
> deadlift's are quite dangerous for the untrained.

This is just false. Sure, the untrained should get some instruction on proper form, and start with manageable weights, as with any exercise. But deadlifting is the least dangerous of the power lifts, and far less dangerous than half the activities in the average WOD.

> Start with "Fix Rounded Shoulders" and "Fix Anterior Pelvic Tilt"

Definitely don't. These are non-scientific maladies invented by fitness personalities to convince you to pay for their specialized expertise to fix your particular biomechanical imperfections. You don't need perfect posture as a prerequisite to benefiting from deadlifting, or any kind of exercise. If you're physically capable of doing the movement, even if your version of the movement is imperfect and not adhering to the mechanical ideal, you're able to benefit from it.

dangus · 6 years ago
That’s why I’d say to get trained. Trainers are worth the money.

There are also more economical options like small group training classes.

throwaway55554 · 6 years ago
> deadlift's are quite dangerous for the untrained.

Isn't that part of "acquiring" the skill; learning to do it?

davedx · 6 years ago
If you're starting out doing deadlifts then I'm almost certain you're at a gym where there's someone experienced enough to show you how to do a deadlift.
smyth · 6 years ago
I echo what others have said about a real trainer. If you can find a gym specializing in powerlifting or olympic, it’s not a big deal.
miganga · 6 years ago
Learn to accept death and read the myth of sysphus if you haven't read.
Pudini · 6 years ago
Alternatively, learn not to accept death and start that life goal of making it something that is a sad, rare event instead of part of the human nature.
agumonkey · 6 years ago
Right now I'm spending more time budget on learning about senolytics
ricg · 6 years ago
Listening to people you disagree with.

This. A follow-up suggestion: try to truly understand the motivation and concerns behind the other person's arguments.

Useful tools are asking "Why?" multiple times to dig deeper. If the conversation seems to dead-end in a broad claim, ask "Can you give me a specific example of …? to continue your quest.

This is especially useful (and interesting!) when talking about politics.

dsego · 6 years ago
I would never recommend deadlifts. Those are really dangerous and easy to do wrong. My friend shattered his spine doing deadlifts and needed surgery and months of recovery and he still can't bend down or sit in certain positions.
Normal_gaussian · 6 years ago
To be somewhat insensitive; it sounds like he was doing it wrong.

I'm recently on a kick to take my fitness more seriously; for me that means a three month stint with a personal trainer, bringing in a dietician soon, and planning on rounding out with a running coach.

As a note, all of this isn't that expensive - its just coming out of most peoples holiday and expensive treat budgets.

Doing it like this means you consult with real experts, who will tell you what you're doing wrong that you didn't think to ask about.

shartshooter · 6 years ago
This is wrong. Deadlifts can be as safe as any other exercise if done properly. Find a coach, practice, maintain form and take your time.
cpursley · 6 years ago
The health risks of not doing deadlifts far outweigh the risk of doing them. It's the only thing that has resolved my back pain and improved my posture.

Disclaimer: hire a trainer to learn the correct form

kerkeslager · 6 years ago
Being weak and overweight is way more dangerous than deadlifts. Muscle mass helps build and maintain bone mass (depending on your age) which avoids broken bones, and osteoporosis later in life. Strong people get injured less and recover faster from injuries.

Yes, there are some ways deadlifts can go horribly wrong, but these are pretty avoidable.

jsjolen · 6 years ago
He shattered his spine? Was he 80 years old and his spine calcified?
illegalsmile · 6 years ago
I would totally recommend deadlifts because like anything if you don't learn how to do something properly you're going to do it wrong which could easily lead to disastrous results. Your friend is the exception, most people do deadlifts regularly no problem. If you've never done them before ask a trainer or someone who knows what they're doing for help, watch videos for form, take form videos of yourself, learn the movement, know when it's time to lower the weight or stop altogether and start slow with low weight. There are so many variations beyond the basic deadlift movement that if one doesn't feel right you have other options.
Tehchops · 6 years ago
>My friend shattered his spine doing deadlifts

Sorry to hear that. I'm curious what the context was though.

At what weight did this occur? Was he a seasoned lifter? Novice?

cgh · 6 years ago
The solution is to use a hex bar, which centres the weight under the hips and removes the health concerns related to poor technique. There is simply no exercise substitute for picking up really heavy things and everyone, particularly women, should do it regularly.
ak39 · 6 years ago
“Honesty” a skill?
jlokier · 6 years ago
Honesty is multi-layered and difficult. It is the art of conveying truth, or at least your truth.

But how can you convey truth if you don't really understand it? And how can you convey truth even if you understand it, if you don't understand what the listener understands when you speak of it?

It's not enough to use "correct" words, if they won't be understood. That's not honesty. That's how clever people take advantage; which is not honesty.

In these terms, I've never met anyone who seems like they could be entirely honest, even if they wanted to be.

But they can learn how to convey something closer to truth with practice and introspection and learning from others; so I'd say it's a skill.

I've met people who say they are honest, but a few minutes listening and from the inconsistent thinking it is apparent they are not even able to be honest within their own thoughts to themselves.

This is not a criticism because I think it applies to everyone, including myself. I think it's just part of the human condition.

To say a person is honest, then, is to say they desire to be honest; that their heart is in it, that they wish to convey truth and not to decieve, or even to risk misunderstandings, no matter who is listening. As noble as it is to desire this, it is quite something to master the art of doing so regularly and reliably.

aratakareigen · 6 years ago
For many lying is already a deeply ingrained habit, and for them honesty will take practice.
rootusrootus · 6 years ago
Honesty with tact certainly is.
LaGrange · 6 years ago
Kinda. It's easy to just say whatever comes to your mind. Actual honesty requires introspection and self-criticism, learning honesty _to yourself_, if you will.
kerkeslager · 6 years ago
Try being honest, really honest, and see if you think it's a skill you have after a few weeks.
cgh · 6 years ago
All great suggestions that sound easy but are not. For the exercise part, I'd say deadlifts and overhead press.
brodouevencode · 6 years ago
I see a lot of people shitting on deadlifts in this thread, but OHPs are way more risky. Great if you have great form and know your body, but still pretty damn risky.
vga805 · 6 years ago
better yet, squat presses and deadlifts
AstralStorm · 6 years ago
Honesty is not a skill, lying successfully is.

Neither is kindness. (And forced kindness can be patronizing.)

brlewis · 6 years ago
> Honesty is not a skill, lying successfully is.

I can see why you would think this. Lying successfully ultimately takes more work than being honest. Being honest is like swinging a golf club or tennis racket correctly. It feels awkward and unnatural at first, but eventually gets easier. Honesty definitely is a skill, though.

muzani · 6 years ago
It's a habit. Personally, I think lying takes up way too much mental space. It's sort of like driving with the seat belt unbuckled; just makes me anxious.

It's a skill to be honest faster, and with less hesitation. The faster you can be honest, the more benefits you reap from it.

Kindness is similar. You want to be kinder faster, with less hesitation.

Otherwise, it will feel forced.

jmvoodoo · 6 years ago
I think honesty is a skill by the dictionary definition as you can certainly do honesty badly, and learning to do it well is difficult and requires study and practice.

It's also worth learning how to do well.

kerkeslager · 6 years ago
> Honesty is not a skill, lying successfully is.

Nonsense. The skill of honesty is fighting your instinct to lie. If you actually try to always be honest, you'll discover that it's not as easy as you are claiming.

> Neither is kindness. (And forced kindness can be patronizing.)

Well, let me ask you, when you decided to leave a comment, did you make that decision with kindness in mind? :)

kthejoker2 · 6 years ago
Maybe "radical candor" instead.of honesty?

Or maybe specifically giving honest feedback to others.

bitexploder · 6 years ago
I will share one that has served me well for over 20 years: learn RDBMS and SQL. Learn normal forms, good schema design, and how to write complex queries. NoSQL adopters often avoided schemas like the plague and ended up with unmaintainable messes after a few years. I have seen more than a few NoSQL -> SQL conversions by now. Data is the most important thing in your app. Give it a great design.

Plus databases like Postgres have key/value and JSON data types. Once you are sure that is what you need it’s still there.

Rob Pikes 5th rule of programming: Data dominates.

Mister_Snuggles · 6 years ago
To expand on this, learn about some of the neat things you can do within a SELECT statement.

Learn how the JOIN syntax works[0], and how to use OUTER JOINs.

Learn about WINDOW[1] functions and what kind of problems they can solve. In particular, many reporting needs can probably be solved with WINDOW functions instead of tracking state as you loop through a result set in application code.

Learn about Common Table Expressions[2]. While these usually aren't necessary, they can make your queries a LOT more readable.

The thing about learning this type of stuff is that it doesn't matter what database you learn on, you can use it on virtually any SQL database (possibly requiring minor syntax changes).

[0] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/12/tutorial-join.html and https://www.postgresql.org/docs/12/queries-table-expressions...

[1] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/12/tutorial-window.html

[2] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/12/queries-with.html

ajsharp · 6 years ago
WINDOW is incredible. Probably among the most useful yet least understood areas of SQL.
MehdiHK · 6 years ago
This. Specially if you work with Node.js. The JavaScript community is susceptible to ignoring all previous knowledge, experience, wisdom and tries to reinvent everything. I appreciate the energy, but it is often misguided. Understand the difference between merit and marketing bullshit (stack names that include Mongodb?). Understand context. If you are using Node.js in green field project, you are probably better off using Postgres. Understand Lindy effect. Sql isn't going away, but the vendor specific query language that you are spending time with and hoping will replace sql is probably going to.
ngsx · 6 years ago
Do you have any recommendations on how to learn RDBMS/SQL? I'm currently using NoSQL at my day job (and agree with your points on it), but have struggled to find a good side project to really dig into RDBMS/SQL. I have used SQL briefly in the past (side projects/class projects) but I'm looking to really cement the skill in my mind.
bitexploder · 6 years ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22237767 -- someone else asked a similar question, here was my response.
chapium · 6 years ago
sqlzoo can help with the syntax
collyw · 6 years ago
Agreed, though interviews seem to focus on trendy framework of the month plus some random algorithm that I learned 20 years ago then forgot as I never needed it.
bitexploder · 6 years ago
Same as it has always been. Experienced teams will always value the right things. Just have to learn when to play the game and what game to play :)
vector_spaces · 6 years ago
Any references in particular you recommend to learn schema design, particularly with an orientation towards performance (e.g. for high-volume sites)?

A couple years ago I got dinged on a take-home project that involved building a db schema, but didn't get any specific feedback on my work, and it's sort of haunted me to this day (especially since SQL is one of my primary languages)

bitexploder · 6 years ago
Everything I learned on is old school. Joe Celko was a great author back in the day. I always enjoyed this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Joe-Celkos-SQL-Smarties-Programming/d...

Although it is 10 years old, not much has changed in the universe of SQL basics. If I were to capture the essence of good schema design it is mostly about keeping data normalized until you have a really good reason not to. Denormalization is almost always an optimization choice.

And before you optimize you should have basic things covered, like indexes, etc. I have fixed more than one "slow" query by simply adding indicies to everything people are joining on. So, check out a tool like pgAdmin that has a cool query planner optimization feature. What is happening under the hood doesn't matter a /lot/ when learning SQL, but it is really insightful to see how indicies of various types impact performance. I believe this book basically covers it all from a theoretical perspective. Optimization and indices aren't super well covered in SQL for smarties, which make sense, it isn't about optimization but is a little higher level.

There are /tons/ of data sets out there now a days. CSV files, etc. Find some interesting data and start challenging yourself with interesting ways to design that data into a database. I actually design most of my SQL databases using an ORM these days, but, my bedrock knowledge of SQL makes it very efficient and I can avoid committing "SQL sins" (denormalization) prematurely. You will be surprised at how much you can learn on simple data sets :)

rz2k · 6 years ago
Take a look at the "Relational Design Theory"[1] mini-course on Stanford/Lagunitas. Though I had used SQL for years, I took it as part of the early MOOC on databases that was offered in 2011. It is likely to match up with the intuition you already have about what works well in practice, but it can still be a challenge and rewarding to formalize your intuition and understanding.

The way the course is broken up now, you may need some of the other sections [2] like Intro to Relational Databases or Relational Algebra as prerequisites, since I do not remember if it used SQL syntax.

[1] https://lagunita.stanford.edu/courses/DB/RD/SelfPaced/about

[2] https://lagunita.stanford.edu/courses/DB/2014/SelfPaced/abou...

papreclip · 6 years ago
>NoSQL adopters often ... ended up with unmaintainable messes

learning SQL seems much more straightforward than learning NoSQL. personally I'd like to find a good resource that will help me use a non-relational database without creating a mess

beefield · 6 years ago
> I'd like to find a good resource that will help me use a non-relational database without creating a mess

My plan for the day when someone requires me to use NoSQL is to say that postgres supports JSON/JSONB perfectly so I can use that as a NoSQL database and then use the relational part to keep me out of the mess...

bitexploder · 6 years ago
Normalization is a thing in NoSQL and SQL. When you end up with data skip and tons of duplication it can get pretty crazy. Being able to normalize data fits with most data models so much better because data is mostly a collection of related bits of information.
kruasan · 6 years ago
Learn how to make more friends. Communicate. Learn how to talk with people, how to be adaptive and contextual.

Learn about yourself as much as you can, either via introspection or from other people. Learn what your values are, and what makes them satisfied. "You are your own ally, when you make yourself an enemy even though you should trust yourself, you become the victim hit the hardest".

Learn agency. Remember that you are a person, and you can take initiative.

Learn that another person's behavior toward you is just a reflection of their relationship with themselves rather than a statement about your value as a person.

Learn to genuinely tell people that you love them. People are precious.

Last of all, actually learn how to use knowledge of all of the above in your situation.

snarf21 · 6 years ago
I've come to believe that introspection is the one true real superpower.

Here is an exercise for the reader. Every year on your birthday, write down what you "know" to be true about life, work, love, politics, money, meaning, happiness, environment, etc. and then seal it. Now read what you wrote last year and see how dumb you used to be.

bryanmgreen · 6 years ago
Right now I’m completing an “In My 20’s” document tracking numbers of big things (is: how many countries visited, music festivals attended, pieces of furniture built, jobs had, dollars saved, etc), feelings, observations, lessons and questions.

It’s pretty powerful. I can track my progress, see the speedbumps, but I think the biggest thing is that despite having all this data, it is not predictive.

I have zero idea what my thirties will look like. Will my goals and priorities change? If so, in what direction and how much?

The biggest takeaway for me in this process is really wrapping my head around how I have no control over tomorrow, only the actions I take today, and that whatever happens, that too shall pass.

blueside · 6 years ago
I don't think it's good to regard it as "how dumb you were". I used to do something similar to this but this screwed me up a bit mentally, leading to a big lack of confidence.

How can I be confident or feel good about my decision if I am currently "dumb"?

You're not dumb if you make the best choices you can with the information you have at the time.

stronglikedan · 6 years ago
> Learn how to make more friends.

I've heard a lot lately about how having fewer, closer friends is better. Just an alternate viewpoint to consider.

ricg · 6 years ago
Care to elaborate on "learn agency" for a non-native English speaker?
kruasan · 6 years ago
I was referring to this twitter thread: https://twitter.com/george__mack/status/1068238562443841538
mechwar · 6 years ago
Love the positivity and orientation in soft skills in this one.
vasco · 6 years ago
Some less usual things people do that I think are very high value but boring (hence why they're not usually done):

- Understanding taxes, the importance of savings and baseline personal finance literacy.

- Reading the political programs of a few parties running for elections in you country

- Reading a few yearly report / financial statements for a public company, an NGO/non-profit/state agency/local government and trying to understand them

- Reading a few top research papers in a field you're interested in and work through them

jon-wood · 6 years ago
Actually getting a proper handle on my finances has been the single thing I did last year which has contributed most to my general mental wellbeing. Historically I've been terrible at it, I'm paid incredibly well compared to most of the population, but because I wasn't consciously budgeting I'd end up running down to the last few pounds in my bank account every month.

Putting an effort into setting actual budgets at the start of the month means I'm shifted from impulse buying silly things on the basis that I have the money at the moment to holding off on those and saving some money. (And admittedly still making silly impulse purchases, but with solid data that I can afford to do so and still have enough money left over for food).

I can highly recommend the ridiculously named You Need A Budget (https://www.youneedabudget.com/) if you're not sure what you're doing, since they have a ton of content around how to go about budgeting. Even if you don't buy the software, give their educational material a read.

agentwiggles · 6 years ago
> Historically I've been terrible at it, I'm paid incredibly well compared to most of the population, but because I wasn't consciously budgeting I'd end up running down to the last few pounds in my bank account every month.

I'll pile on a recommendation for YNAB. This sounds exactly like me. Having a better handle on my money and where it's going has definitely improved my mental health this year.

balfirevic · 6 years ago
> Reading the political programs of a few parties running for elections in you country

I too recommend reading more fiction in 2020! (Sorry, I was just a little bit struck with how little this would matter in some countries, mine included).

brlewis · 6 years ago
Political parties are highly skilled at telling people what they want to hear. Reading their programs will keep you current on what people want to hear.
rchaud · 6 years ago
If it doesn't matter in your country, you could look at the voting records of the people running for leadership positions, and thereby separate their words from their actions.
shostack · 6 years ago
Any tips on the political reading piece? I've found it challenging or a waste of time because either it is hard to find concise info from a variety of candidates that is in an easy to compare format, or I distrust the candidate to actually stick to their platform (vs just saying whatever they need to get elected).
mamcx · 6 years ago
> Understanding taxes, the importance of savings and baseline personal finance literacy.

Ok, what could be a good resource for this? The problem with finances is alike eating: You get so much talk from shaddy "experts" that is hard to see where the good info is.

deadbunny · 6 years ago
I know enough about taxes to hire an accountant.

The Reddit r/personalfinance sub is a well moderated place (no shady experts shilling nonsense). Take a look at their wiki[1] for a good jumping off point.

There are also country specific pf reddits listed in their wiki if you're not in the US.

The basic jist of things is:

1. Create a budget, go through the last few months of bank statements and categorise your spending

2. Pay down your debt (starting with the highest rate first)

3. Save 3-6 months expenses (which you know from your budget) as an emergency fund. (This does not need to all be accessable immediately just available, say 80% in a savings account with 30 days notice)

4. 2 & 3 should be done at the same time, it might not be mathematically the best but paying all your debt off and then being fired/made redundant without a cushion is not good.

Then once you've got a handle on the pf stuff, think about r/financialindependence or r/fire

1. https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/wiki/commontopics

jackdeansmith · 6 years ago
The personal finance subreddit is extremely good and has accessible wiki articles about the most common topics. The "Prime Directive" is a good place to start: https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/wiki/commontopics.

There's also a flowchart which works well for 90+% of people: https://i.imgur.com/lSoUQr2.png

aratakareigen · 6 years ago
> Reading a few top research papers in a field you're interested in and work through them

Why reading a research paper rather than the more standard approach of reading a textbook?

jimbokun · 6 years ago
Recent research papers are the stuff that hasn't made it into textbooks yet.

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rocketpastsix · 6 years ago
> Understanding taxes, the importance of savings and baseline personal finance literacy.

huge plus one to this one.

alasano · 6 years ago
No matter what you choose to learn, it's good to learn how to learn.

You have the free "Learning how to learn" course on coursera : https://www.coursera.org/learn/learning-how-to-learn

And I'm currently reading a book called "Ultralearning" by a guy called Scott H Young who I imagine is the type of person to be on hacker news and be like "Hey, thanks for recommending my book!"

https://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/ultralearning/

The book so far is great, there are certainly some principles which may seem obvious but in reality they need to be acknowledged and used effectively. Overall it's a clear read and gives a pretty clear way to get started on learning a ton of things in a short amount of time.

No shortcuts though, still a ton of effort involved.

tlapinsk · 6 years ago
Highly recommend the "Learning How to Learn" Coursera course. I took it late last year and believe it is a must for anyone interested in continual learning. It can be cheesy at times and seem like common sense, but the material is highly applicable to your daily life.
jlelonm · 6 years ago
What % of Learning How To Learn is covered by Ultra Learning?