> The rally has also been supported by a weaker yen, which has shed about 6% against the dollar so far this year and seems on track to drop to to 33-year lows touched late last year.
We just got back from Tokyo and the prices for everything were crazy low. Ordered a bunch of sushi at a mall sushi place in Kyoto for what it would cost for Chipotle in DC. It was a huge shock when we flew back through SF and paid $13 each for a taco truck burrito in Millbrae.
The Japanese folks I’ve spoken to are pretty grumbly about the weak yen, though.
The other side of this coin is that exports are very difficult. My dad is a nut farmer and the business is completely unsustainable right now. Expenses are through the roof while simultaneously crop prices are at all time lows due to the collapse of exports. It's nuts.
We Canadians used to regularly talk about how cheap the US was, and load up on gas, food, beer, cheese and all the rest when staying in cheap hotels and getting cheap meals with cheap entertainment (concerts, sporting events, etc.). If you could be bothered electronics were cheap, cars were cheap, clothes were cheap, etc. etc.
In the last ~12 months I have been floored how expensive life in the US is now. I was just down two weeks ago, and everything was either the same dollar number as Canada or higher, but it's in US dollars.
Overvalued by a lot, we expected a full global crash in which so far in history the USA has bounced back first. But instead we pumped out 20% of all USD ever printed, which created a slow burn. As long as the keep rates where they are or higher, we should recover. I personally think rates are too low, and this last week has proven that is the right view, the market can still remain delusional far longer than I can. The longer the unrealistic expectation of rates falling at all this year, just increases the risk we'll have trouble. Cheap cash is gone, you gotta earn it now. Downvote all you like, doesn't change the fact that rates need to stay up or we risk a similar situation as the early 80's.
America has always been famous for the fact that everything is extremely cheap. But now I'm seeing videos of people at Costco/Walmart showing the prices of stuff (often while finding an old price label and showing there's been a 50-100% increase over the last year) and it's actually way more expensive than what I pay in the UK.
It’s idiotic. I went to Zermatt and the little grocery store there was cheaper than Seattle Safeway. A ski resort in a land locked country with higher food quality standards that has cheaper food than a coastal US city with a port is absurd.
I think safeway is trying to take over QFC/Kroger so that’s great.
Went this summer and it was a great deal for a two week vacation. As long as you can get an ok price for plane tickets, it is cheaper to visit Japan than much of the USA (assuming American).
It’s too bad China is still hard to get to by plane (Russian airspace being closed really hurts).
> It’s too bad China is still hard to get to by plane (Russian airspace being closed really hurts).
Assuming you're flying from eastern US, taking the pacific route to bypass RU airspace instead of the polar route doesn't add that much distance to get to coastal China.
We flew ZipAir which has amazing prices on lay-flat seats, around $2,000 round trip. Also significant discounts for kids: tickets for my 2 year old and 5 year old were just a few hundred dollars round trip.
Checking prices on google flights, assuming a trip in April from SFO where I live, cheapest option is about $800 round trip to Tokyo, or $1050 to Shenzhen. A bit cheaper but maybe not a significant difference for such a long distance trip.
Same! Just got back and I really miss the cheap everything, and relatively high quality as well. Picked up some Uniqlo things that would have been 2x the price in the US.
Idk but maybe Uniqlo is uniquely cheap in Japan as Japanese chain? I've bought Uniqlo in Poland, UK, USA and Korea and prices stayed relatively consistent.
Perils of dollar maintaining whatever value it wants to maintain by just whims and fancy and the rest of the world trying to wag their tails and trying to keep up, or not.
Restaurant food is cheap in Japan because there are many high-quality restaurants. The competition drives the price down. Furthermore it may be in the best interest of Japan for their monetary policy to weaken the yen because it induces demand in tourism.
Their economy is still not doing well. The sole reason that the NIKKEI is storming it is that banks only offer negative interest rates on bank deposits. Thus, the NIKKEI is the only real option left.
Funny how every single foreigner seems to think the "weak yen" is ruining everyone's lives and yet I've never heard a Japanese person complain about it
Not to be judgemental, I doubt you usually hear a lot from Japanese person in the first place; most Japanese don't speak English at all. Locals speaking to a BBC reporter in fluent English don't happen in Japan or with Japanese users on Internet.
Japanese public education curricula do include "English", but it's largely "English-Japanese document translations" classes than actual English, which is good for research papers and bureaucratic letters, works like any 2000s machine translation in conversations. The majority won't bring that technique out and employ it well to win an Internet pub fight, especially on societal-macro-economical problems, so you likely will not hear anything from actual Japanese people on this topic or anything else.
It's a double-edged sword though. A weaker yen can increase export sales, however import value will be much higher. Currently, most products in Japan are made from Japanese companies, which is why the Japanese people don't feel the impact yet.
My wage in terms of dollars have remained the same for the last 5 years despite earning double. It's not ruining my life only because it takes longer for prices to increase here -- but they are definitely increasing.
Japanese people also don't like talking about wages and not everyone compares what they are making to the dollar. I have heard plenty of colleagues, friends, and family complain. It's more about how the number of diapers in a bag has decreased steadily from 72 to 56 than boy my life is getting ruined by weak yen.
The more prevalent complaints are from fellow mortgage borrowers. Variable rates in Japan have been steady for nearly 30 years, meaning a substantial number of borrowers are watching the central bank's moves like a hawk and are terrified of even any talks of rate increases.
TLDR: We are just not loud complainers (and frankly, if any Japanese person you know is hopefully very lucky, they might be earning just enough to not notice it all)
Things are getting more expensive slightly over the years and that is nothing disastrous unless your life was already quite disastrous and made it even worse or you're purely an importer or rely on natural resources to see weak yen ruin your business.
Japanese man in his 70s: "Yippee Yay! It only took 34 years to get back what I invested in the index, because indexes always go up. And now everything costs double".
Looks like the Nikkei 225 average dividend yield is around 1.4%. If you bought in 1989 and reinvested dividends it looks like you would have briefly broken even in 2015 (ignoring inflation), then hit solid black sometime in 2017. This is completely absurd and shows how huge of a factor timing is in market investments.
Remember, kids, dollar cost averaging is usually the way to go.
While academically you are correct, I am not sure I would say it has never been a good idea. I have a US bias but most portfolios in the US have a significant if not total weighting on domestic markets. Even in my memory of the last 10 years there have been continuous questions on how much international exposure one should have. Most of the time you see something like a 5-10% exposure in international markets which in theory gives you the "best risk adjusted returns" but in reality since the US has been a continuous powerhouse, gives you a lower overall return.
Many people, especially in Japan don't realize not investing and simply saving means they're actually investing in their own country long term, which for Japan, doesn't look like a smart strategy at this point.
The boglehead philosophy involves slow accumulation of an index portfolio over time. Not many people had a huge windfall in 1989 and put it all in the Nikkei at once. The money you invested in 1980 is up 500% before dividends.
You are not entirely wrong. The thing is though, the US has been an economic powerhouse on the global stage for decades. The US health impacts much of the rest of the world's markets.
While that is true, there's also no guarantee that we do not see a stagnation of the world stock markets for decades. World indices are also highly concentrated to a few countries, e.g. US is more than 60%.
Yes, if you invested all of your wealth in the index right before the crash then you were in very bad shape. But this isn't how most investment works. You buy in as you accumulate more savings. Most investors also got to experience and benefit from the extreme runup.
Hopefully they didn't sit around without investing for 34 years.The evolution of what they invest 34 years ago (at the peak) is only one part of the equation. There is also what was invest a while before that. And when was earned and invested each year since. No matter which country, you don't want to find yourself investing only at the peak and nothing before or after.
The crisis in Europe, the unpredictability of American politics, and the mounting tensions with China make Japan a attractive alternative for investing right now.
Japan has been in an economic stasis for decades, some believe this to be triggered by the 1985 Plaza Accords which devalued the Dollar against the Mark and the Yen.
Germany recovered from that shock by absorbing East Germany and pushing EU integration. Japan did not have this options, but the new multipolar world order might give them an opportunity.
This will probably be to the detriment of Germany and the US, which both probably would like to increase the value of the yen.
But given that the American are not perceived as a reliable partner right now, I do not see something like the Plaza Cords coming again any time soon.
Germany is doing just fine, it passed Japan as the bigger economy. Japan is one declining, their demographic shrinkage and a stagnant economy for the past 3 decades.
So, it seems like they're at least starting to offload their stock holdings.
I was very surprised when I learned that their central bank was purchasing stocks. I'd heard about it first in 2020, but apparently it had been going on before the pandemic.
It makes me wonder if the US stock market crashed hard enough if the Fed would start buying up stocks on the major indexes. Are they even legally allowed to do this? If so, what other assets can the Fed acquire? REITs? What about direct real estate purchases? I wonder if corporate real estate crashed hard enough from remote work if they'd prop it up.
Here's data for the price of gold over the same period in USD, showing almost same 5x increase. Could you explain the relevance of either to this story about the Nikkei?
The relevance is that this is not remotely an all-time high when denominated in gold (and, presumably, an implicit claim that a valuation in gold is in somehow more "real" than a valuation in nominal yen)
We just got back from Tokyo and the prices for everything were crazy low. Ordered a bunch of sushi at a mall sushi place in Kyoto for what it would cost for Chipotle in DC. It was a huge shock when we flew back through SF and paid $13 each for a taco truck burrito in Millbrae.
The Japanese folks I’ve spoken to are pretty grumbly about the weak yen, though.
In the last ~12 months I have been floored how expensive life in the US is now. I was just down two weeks ago, and everything was either the same dollar number as Canada or higher, but it's in US dollars.
I don't know how people are doing it.
Your money losing half its value in about a year tends to do that.
Import-dependent companies - different story. Export-oriented companies: Yeehaw.
Worth noting that the Yen was much stronger back in 1989. These peaks are not the same.
Mall sushi has always been cheap in japan
It’s too bad China is still hard to get to by plane (Russian airspace being closed really hurts).
Assuming you're flying from eastern US, taking the pacific route to bypass RU airspace instead of the polar route doesn't add that much distance to get to coastal China.
And Chinese airlines can still overfly RU.
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https://www.focus-economics.com/country-indicator/japan/inte....
https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/15151006
Japanese public education curricula do include "English", but it's largely "English-Japanese document translations" classes than actual English, which is good for research papers and bureaucratic letters, works like any 2000s machine translation in conversations. The majority won't bring that technique out and employ it well to win an Internet pub fight, especially on societal-macro-economical problems, so you likely will not hear anything from actual Japanese people on this topic or anything else.
Japanese people also don't like talking about wages and not everyone compares what they are making to the dollar. I have heard plenty of colleagues, friends, and family complain. It's more about how the number of diapers in a bag has decreased steadily from 72 to 56 than boy my life is getting ruined by weak yen.
The more prevalent complaints are from fellow mortgage borrowers. Variable rates in Japan have been steady for nearly 30 years, meaning a substantial number of borrowers are watching the central bank's moves like a hawk and are terrified of even any talks of rate increases.
TLDR: We are just not loud complainers (and frankly, if any Japanese person you know is hopefully very lucky, they might be earning just enough to not notice it all)
Things are getting more expensive slightly over the years and that is nothing disastrous unless your life was already quite disastrous and made it even worse or you're purely an importer or rely on natural resources to see weak yen ruin your business.
Otherwise, it's mostly life as usual.
If you look at the actual returns they recovered years ago (tho not so long).
Remember, kids, dollar cost averaging is usually the way to go.
The advice is to invest as broadly and globally as possible, which has resulted in very good return during the last 35 years.
Also, nothing "always goes up". Index investing over long periods of time simple gives you the best risk adjusted returns.
Japan has been in an economic stasis for decades, some believe this to be triggered by the 1985 Plaza Accords which devalued the Dollar against the Mark and the Yen.
Germany recovered from that shock by absorbing East Germany and pushing EU integration. Japan did not have this options, but the new multipolar world order might give them an opportunity.
This will probably be to the detriment of Germany and the US, which both probably would like to increase the value of the yen.
But given that the American are not perceived as a reliable partner right now, I do not see something like the Plaza Cords coming again any time soon.
Plaza Accords: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaza_Accord
Impact on Yen and Mark: https://www.macrotrends.net/2550/dollar-yen-exchange-rate-hi...https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/312004/umfrag...
Perhaps do a little research than believe whatever you want to believe?
Just searching for "german economy" would yield the world is saying the opposite.
So, it seems like they're at least starting to offload their stock holdings.
I was very surprised when I learned that their central bank was purchasing stocks. I'd heard about it first in 2020, but apparently it had been going on before the pandemic.
It makes me wonder if the US stock market crashed hard enough if the Fed would start buying up stocks on the major indexes. Are they even legally allowed to do this? If so, what other assets can the Fed acquire? REITs? What about direct real estate purchases? I wonder if corporate real estate crashed hard enough from remote work if they'd prop it up.
Price of gold in 2024: 9,800 yen/g
Price of gold in 1989: ~$370 USD/oz
Price of gold in 2024: ~2000 USD/oz