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breakpointalpha · a month ago
What jumps out at me is the $135 bill of materials.

What a time to be alive!

Animats · a month ago
Feetech is selling actuators which are mechanically R/C type servos, but have a bidirectional computer interface allowing the control computer to find out what's happening at the servo.[1] This isn't new; Dynamixel has been doing it for over a decade. But not at this price point. This Feetech servo is $17, while Dynamixel units start around $70 and go much higher.[2]

The parts list has "need to be strong" for many of the small parts, but they are 3D printed PLA plastic. That's the low end of 3D printing. None of the videos show the hand handling anything.

So this is really the proof of concept model. If there's enough interest, someone could make the parts by injection-molding of something better, such as polycarbonate or glass-filled nylon. The total plastic volume here is so tiny that the plastic cost is negligible, and there's no reason not to use a high-quality engineering plastic.

Nobody seems to do hobbyist injection molding much. TechShop had a desktop injection molding machine, the CNC milling machines to make molds, and even Autodesk Moldflow to design them. But nobody used those tools. A few university maker spaces have similar machines. Because most of the world's plastic stuff is made by injection molding.

[1] https://www.feetechrc.com/

[2] https://www.robotis.us/dynamixel/

[3] https://makerspace.engineering.nyu.edu/machines/pim/

mionhe · a month ago
Mold design is still difficult when the parts aren't dead simple. The software I've seen is okay with the simple stuff, but once you get even a little more complex you have to understand simultaneously how to design good parts for molding and how to design good molds, both of which are heavily dependent on the type of plastic you're using and the size of the press you have access to. Not to mention how to machine good molds from metal, which is a challenge all on its own due to surface finish and tolerance requirements (and weird geometry that makes the CAM choke...)

In other words, we're not really there yet to bring that activity into the hobby realm. But I hope that we're not too far away.

jjangkke · a month ago
Most hand related jobs upwards of $100 per 30 min

If this Robot hand can do those jobs we could see some industries take a hit

0_____0 · a month ago
People have been making end effectors using hobby servos for ages. These servomotors are designed for use in an RC aircraft, they're light, cheap, and expendable.

Industrial needs care not about weight, care less about cost, and care a great deal about capability, repeatability, and reliability.

This is a cool project for a hobbyist but it's not meant to be a serious industrial machine.

Edit: what is with this thread? Lots of very generic positive comments here but not much thinking about what this is actually useful for.

MisterTea · a month ago
> upwards of $100 per 30 min

That is why I'm self employed.

kakapo5672 · a month ago
It took me a a distressingly long time to understand this comment. I'm kind of concerned, and have vowed to get out more.
greggsy · a month ago
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stefanka · a month ago
It’s one of best designs I have seen, I admit. But for that price you cannot get absolute encoders outside the motor, reliable force/torque sensors (think picking up a strawberry), tendons (thread below). It might be too limited for research and real-world projects unfortunately.

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aaronblohowiak · a month ago
Would adding AnySkin to the finger tips work? ( https://any-skin.github.io ) ?
proee · a month ago
Maybe this could be an add-on option for the K-Scale robot that is coming out soon? They want $1k for a 5 finger end effector hand.

https://www.kscale.dev/

echelon · a month ago
I can't wait for this to be put on a tall roomba base so it can clean my kitchen.
mrbonner · a month ago
You haven’t accounted for the 3D printer yet.
Brajeshwar · a month ago
Here is what I’m more keen on, rather than the human-like robots that we are all expecting. For instance, I would like a wall-mounted or floor-standing multi-arm robot that serves as a kitchen assistant. One can add or reduce arms as needed/desired. It is custom-equipped with a fire extinguisher, thermometer, and the usual must-haves for a kitchen. It will hold the cutlery, plates, and other items as needed. It will also advise on the likes of, “No, salts usually go in a pinch, would you like me to add in just about 5 grams?”

Thus, similarly for the garage, the DIY table, etc. Just Arms would be good.

thrance · a month ago
Tbh I would rather not have computer-guided knife-flinging arms in my home, be them on wheels or fixed to the wall.
sroussey · a month ago
I have a parrot (whose beak is sharp enough, thank you very much) that loves to grab a knife out of the knife block and spin around with it.

I have to put a towel over it though today he pulled the towel off and still grabbed the knife and was holding it up when I turned around.

_carbyau_ · a month ago
I don't want arms in the kitchen just yet though I'm happy for someone else to beta test that.

But arms to move laundry from dirty clothes -> washer -> dryer -> clean clothes basket? Relatively defined, repeatable interactions with a worst case of wrecking some clothes seems a safer place to start.

jagged-chisel · a month ago
I think the washer-dryer integrated unit handles the first bit without moving the clothes. Add the ability to dump dry clothes into a basket and voila!
bredren · a month ago
It slices, it dices...

Seriously, though. Vassar Robotics (YC company) has an arm kit available for order now. The original ship date for my order just got pushed back due to an upgrade in the camera spec.

It won't be able to hold knives (I don't think) but there are companies working to bring about your hoped-for wall arm right now.

scotty79 · a month ago
I always imagined robot hands hanging and sliding on rails under top kitchen cabinets.
goopypoop · a month ago
perhaps sir would prefer… tentacles?
mclau157 · a month ago
Pollen Robotics and HuggingFace are doing a lot for robotics right now!
ge96 · a month ago
Wonder if it will get adopted (huggingface robot) I noticed the eyes/cameras go behind the neck thing for sleep mode

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ImPostingOnHN · a month ago
Looks like this product is called AmazingHand (and there are billions of "hand"s in the world), so the title might have some room for improvement as far as searchability goes.

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amelius · a month ago
Would it be possible to have tendons running through the arms, so the weight of the hand is reduced?
stefanka · a month ago
Most tendons materials are elastic. That lead to create calibration problems and require proprioceptive sensors in the hand
Symmetry · a month ago
In practice force sensing is more useful than proprioception in most cases, at least for grasping. Generally you won't the dimensions of an object you're attempting to grasp anywhere near as well as you would know the shape of the hand you're using so a certain amount of underactuated compliance makes the job a lot easier.
fusslo · a month ago
Huh, never thought of that

I wonder if companies are experimenting with materials like UHMWPE for non-elastic, high strength-to-diameter tendons.

I dont know if you'd have to weld the dyneema to the anchor points, though

atrus · a month ago
Will Cogley has had a few different designs with tendoned hands.

https://www.youtube.com/@WillCogley

https://willcogley.notion.site/

So, there are designs out there for that too!

ortusdux · a month ago
I wonder if I have time to make one of these and then decorate it to look like Thing for Halloween!
binsquare · a month ago
The world is designed with humans in mind, it's great to see robotics evolve in this direction to take advantage of that!
baq · a month ago
Literally the reason for all publicly traded robotics companies going up recently.
poly2it · a month ago
Why was this downvoted?
agumonkey · a month ago
Anybody knows of similar projects for exoskeleton or support devices?
lucidrains · a month ago
agumonkey · a month ago
thanks a lot
Joel_Mckay · a month ago
Yes, it is a technology originally intended to make spacesuits less brutal on astronauts hand/wrist/forearm fatigue.

Last I checked, project was shelved in 2020 for various reasons. =3