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thrance commented on Do Markets Believe in Transformative AI?   marginalrevolution.com/ma... · Posted by u/surprisetalk
delichon · 17 hours ago
> It's debatable whether the "consumers" won in the end.

If "in the end" is now, it's pretty clear that automation has made clothing both better and cheaper. And paying $10 now for shoes of less than 1/5th value of $50 shoes much later, or not at all, can be entirely rational. Most of us make that kind of compromise frequently.

thrance · 16 hours ago
Is it really better if it's made by slaves in the Global South, from a mix of plastics and crops grown in an unsustainable way, then shipped across the globe, and made to last about seven washing cycles before being disposed? Debatable, as I said.
thrance commented on Do Markets Believe in Transformative AI?   marginalrevolution.com/ma... · Posted by u/surprisetalk
delichon · 18 hours ago
> It only benefitted the owners.

And the buyers. As a ballpark estimate, it would take around 50 hours of human labor to produce a shirt by hand, fabric plus sewing, versus about an hour of human labor by industrial machines. That lowers the cost greatly, which most consumers demonstrably value over custom tailoring.

thrance · 18 hours ago
At the time, the quality of machine-made clothes was noticeably worse than human-made. It's debatable wether the "consumers" (the term certainly wasn't used at the time) won in the end. Terry Pratchett's "Boots theory" feels relevant here:

> Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.

> But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

thrance commented on Do Markets Believe in Transformative AI?   marginalrevolution.com/ma... · Posted by u/surprisetalk
akomtu · 19 hours ago
It tells a lot about our society that the only way to apply capital is to build a slop machine that will make us redundant.
thrance · 19 hours ago
Nothing new here, that's basically what the luddites complained about: the machines that replaced them output worse quality garments and sent them all to the streets. It only benefitted the owners. Capital will always seek to rid itself of its dependence on labor, until it eventually succeeds...

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thrance commented on France's homegrown open source online office suite   github.com/suitenumerique... · Posted by u/nar001
shermantanktop · 2 days ago
The trend up until the 2010s was that global companies were so big and ubiquitous that they could dictate the economic actions of nations, not the other way around. International military conflicts were influenced by the likes of Halliburton. Corporations were the new nation-states, countries were mere speed bumps in the flow of global capital. That was seen by some as a great thing, aligning everyone’s interests together and encouraging peace.

In that world, France betting on Microsoft is not only benign, it’s a positive. That’s also the world of Davos and Jeffrey Epstein.

We’re experiencing a global shift toward nationalism which has pushed back hard on that trend. There’s things to like about that and things to dislike, but those things differ wildly depending on your politics.

thrance · 2 days ago
I'd say it goes beyond nationalism. Even countries that haven't succumbed to the far right are forced to play by the new rules. I've heard some refer to it as "neomercantilism".
thrance commented on OpenCiv3: Open-source, cross-platform reimagining of Civilization III   openciv3.org/... · Posted by u/klaussilveira
bigstrat2003 · 3 days ago
I love that the community is doing this, though I'm curious why Civ 3 in particular. My understanding was that "classic" (for lack of a better term) Civ fans tend to prefer either 2 or 4, and that 3 was considered to be not as good. But perhaps I was mistaken as to the community's opinions on the games.
thrance · 3 days ago
There's Freeciv [1] for IV, and Unciv [2] for V. I doesn't have many fans, VI is too recent, and VII, well... Let's not talk about VII.

> Civ fans tend to prefer [...]

I'd say, each entry in the series gets love. The saying goes: "Your favorite Civ game is the first one you ever played". In my experience, that's pretty true (Still stuck on V).

[1] https://www.freeciv.org/

[2] https://github.com/yairm210/Unciv

thrance commented on The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein   scottaaronson.blog/?p=953... · Posted by u/pfdietz
carlosjobim · 3 days ago
When was the last time you heard a bank owner or large industrialist being against the taxation of everyday people?

Even the famous/infamous billionaires never come out against income tax for normal people. At most they're against taxation of themselves.

When did you hear the owner of a bank or a large hedge fund or a major industry talk against income taxes which the poor pay?

The rich are 100% pro taxes. It funnels money to themselves from the population, and keeps competition down.

thrance · 3 days ago
Trump's BBB brought more than $1 trillion in tax cuts to the wealthy.
thrance commented on The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein   scottaaronson.blog/?p=953... · Posted by u/pfdietz
takklob · 3 days ago
> Liberal democracy is better than feudalism, I see no reason why our systems of governance can't be improved further.

It took a disease killing a massive portion of the working population to weaken feudalism in Western Europe.

And don’t underestimate the portion of population that yearn to be peasants.

thrance · 3 days ago
> It took a disease killing a massive portion of the working population to weaken feudalism in Western Europe.

Erm... sure, but I don't see what that has to do with my comment? Transitions between political systems are rarely pleasant and are usually motivated by crisis.

> And don’t underestimate the portion of population that yearn to be peasants.

I don't buy that. People learn submission, it is not inherent to the human mind.

u/thrance

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