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pxndxx · 3 years ago
Calling this car Nevera (fridge) makes it a great addition to the unfortunate car names in Spanish, next to the Fiat Marea (makes-you-dizzy) and Mitsubishi Pajero (wanker).
wazoox · 3 years ago
However nothing beats in French the Audi e-tron, literally "turd". At least in the 00s Toyota prudently renamed the MR-2 ("shit") into simply "MR" to prevent problems.
olivermarks · 3 years ago
@Wazoox Toyota joined this fun with their performance line 'TRD' (Toyota Racing Development) which they add in large letters to vehicles in the US, and which many enthusiasts of competing vehicle brands consider a good description of Toyota vehicle racing capability
Hamuko · 3 years ago
The worst part is that it's not just the name of a car, it's the entire EV sub-brand. So you have the Audi Turd, the Audi Q8 Turd, the Audi Q8 Turd Sportback the Audi Turd GT, and so on.
moffkalast · 3 years ago
Maybe Ford Kuga, meaning "bubonic plague" in Slovenian.
chasebank · 3 years ago
The classic business school case is Chevy's Nova. Literally means "No go" in Spanish. IIRC, it was a smashing success in US and Canada and a giant flop south of the border.
paol · 3 years ago
Nova means new, not "no go", unless you are actively trying to make a joke and read "no" and "va" as separate words.
driverdan · 3 years ago
> a giant flop south of the border

That's an urban legend. It sold fine.

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shiftpgdn · 3 years ago
I've always heard that legend but instead as the "el camino" which can mean "the walk."
sbacic · 3 years ago
Nevera means "storm" or alternatively "squall" in Croatian, which is where the car got its name.
zagrebian · 3 years ago
Not just any storm. It’s a storm on the Croatian coast that comes suddenly and doesn’t last long. When pronouncing the word, the emphasis is on the second syllable: neh-VEH-rah

Source: My Dalmatian father

richrichardsson · 3 years ago
Google translate unhelpfully suggests it's "infidelity" (Nevjera, not even the same word!), so thank you for clearing that up.

I'm always frustrated (and I'm not even a native Croatian speaker) that automotive journalists often pronounce the company name "Reemack".

moonchrome · 3 years ago
It's a dialect word at that - which is probably why google translation doesn't check out
saiya-jin · 3 years ago
in another Slavic language, Slovakian, "nevera" means outright infidelity. In Czech its almost same word, "nevěra"
the_mitsuhiko · 3 years ago
Also since we're on the topic of weird meanings: Škoda which is a Czech brand also can be read as "damage" in the Czech language.
glanzwulf · 3 years ago
Doesn't beat Hyndaui Kona, they had to change the name in Portugal to Kauai, because Kona means "Pussy"
warpech · 3 years ago
In Polish, "Hyundai Kona" roughly translates to "Hyundai is dying in agony". They did not change it.

"Kauai" wouldn't be much better, as the first part of this word translates to turd.

projektfu · 3 years ago
Maybe keeping the name would help sell the Santa Fe
gnatman · 3 years ago
Toyota MR2 in french is pronounced Em Air Deux, very close to "merde" which means "shit".
anticensor · 3 years ago
MR2 in French is pronounced as emmerdeur, which means PITA. Just as good as a Vauxhall Nova.
onion2k · 3 years ago
The Vauxhall Nova ("no go") was pretty poorly named.
mywittyname · 3 years ago
I always got the impression this was more of a thing English speakers picked up on but not Spanish speakers. Kind of like how pillow could be seen as "pill" & "ow" (pill = unpleasant, ow = "that's painful"), which would be ironic to a person with rudimentary English skills, but just a normal word to a native speaker.
zhrvoj · 3 years ago
I'm an Adriatic sailor. Nevera -> fridge??? Stupid google translation, hilarious. Don't rely on this. English word in meteo world is "sudden storm", Italians say "Burrasca". It's not cyclone. Speciality of Adriatic sea, if you will sail there. It happens when we have lifting of warm and humid air, for example on a cold fronts. Cold air is denser and it goes under warm and humid air. Warm air lifts up. Every 100m you can count on -0.5 °C (Buys Baillot). And on some level under special condition (look for CAPE and LI), you will get monster cloud looking like anvil from distance, travels 20nm to the east, sucks the air up, and down on it's front. Italia, Croatia, oh we know.
balfirevic · 3 years ago
> I'm an Adriatic sailor. Nevera -> fridge??? Stupid google translation, hilarious.

In Spanish.

mejutoco · 3 years ago
I will add the Nissan moco (snot, nasal mucus).
tecleandor · 3 years ago
There's also:

  Toyota Premio (prize)
  Suzuki Alto (tall)
  Mazda Laputa (well, yeah, it's an island, but if you read it quickly it sounds like "the wh\*re")
  Lamborghini Reventón (It's the name for a bull, but it means puncture or tire blowout)
AFAIK, the Laputa being a Kei Car hasn't been sold out of Japan, and the equivalent to the Premio has been the Avensis. I've seen Altos, and not much Lamborghinis :D

jansan · 3 years ago
Long time ago a friend oof mine told me that Passat is a horrible choice for a car name, because it sounds like "Pas ça!" (=not that) in French. Can any native French speakers tell me if this really sounds awkward, or is it just a name like any other?
1983054105 · 3 years ago
I'm French and it doesn't sound weird because we (and the advertisements) have always pronounced the "t" at the end.

On the other hand, the Audio "e-tron" changed its name in France because "étron" means excrement in French.

neural_thing · 3 years ago
It also sounds like "to pee" in Russian
toolslive · 3 years ago
ford nova (no va!)
shrx · 3 years ago
Another example is Ford Kuga - "kuga" means "plague" in slovenian.
rob74 · 3 years ago
Actually "marea" means "tide" in Italian and also Spanish - from which I guess the alternative Spanish meaning evolved: "tide" -> "sea" -> "seasick" -> "sick"?
loloquwowndueo · 3 years ago
“Marear” is a verb - to make dizzy or motion-sick. “Marea” is the third-person singular present form of the verb.

“Mitsubishi marea” translated literally from Spanish as a full sentence and not as “make and model of a car “ is “Mitsubishi makes you dizzy”.

franciscop · 3 years ago
Oh don't forget about Mazda LaPuta.
thedrbrian · 3 years ago
Don't forget the Vauxhall Nova (no-go/not going)
voidmain0001 · 3 years ago
Add the Chevy Nova (no va - doesn't go) to that list.
rootusrootus · 3 years ago
FWIW, that never happened, it's just an old wives tale.
mshaler · 3 years ago
Nova (don't go) has entered the chat
axg11 · 3 years ago
This is really impressive. The speed record itself is not super relevant to everyday production vehicles, but it's a great way to win customers over to EVs.

In general, I underestimated the progress that electric vehicles would make over the last ~2 years. Most manufacturers have at least one decent EV on the market now. Where I live (Toronto, Canada), EV charging infrastructure still needs a lot of improvement but it's an inevitability now.

carl_dr · 3 years ago
What they don’t say is that the battery lasts 5 minutes at maximum performance.

(The car’s engine power is 1914bhp, which is about 1400kW, the car’s battery is 120kWh.)

LeonM · 3 years ago
The Veyron (first petrol production car to crack 400km/h) was famously quoted by Top Gear that its tires would only last 12 minutes at top speed, which was OK, because the 100L fuel tank would be empty in just 9 minutes.

That the Nevera can do 5 minutes with 'only' 120kWh is actually amazing. Petrol has an energy density of 12200Wh/kg. At 0.79kg/l, the Veron had a total capacity of 963kWh. That's 8 Times more energy, yet still less than 2 times the range.

gambiting · 3 years ago
Wasn't that true of the Bugatti Veyron and Chiron too? That at its max speed of 400kph the tyres would last 15 minutes but it doesn't matter because the fuel only lasts 5, or something like that.

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rbanffy · 3 years ago
That 5 minute ride must be the scariest way to drive ~30 km... Only once I drove at 250 kph and it was like driving full speed in the wrong way.
AtlasBarfed · 3 years ago
The hypercar segment figured out once the higher performance Teslas came on the market that an EV skateboard hypercar is much much much cheaper to trot out that a new custom engine/powertrain. And it accelerates much faster, and now apparently is nearly faster than ICE in top speed. Drivetrain is more reliable. Plus lower center of gravity, more internal space, yada yada yada.

This was plainly apparent to me 3-4 years ago and I'm a "jalopnik" level of automotive reader (as in idiot with keyboard level expertise)

So the hypercar people get to charge with a straight face a multi-million dollar car that's faster than their previous versions, but make wayyyyy more money. The Plaid Model S is a !!!150k!!! hypercar beater, and it's a sedan. If Elon wasn't a moron of marketing, that car would have been selling with many many many variants (see: BMW) each adding 50-100k to the price until you got up to the 500-700k range.

rasz · 3 years ago
and one of those 50-100K options would be "actual fit and finish" https://twitter.com/JoshuaPHilll/status/1592162940513304579
dahfizz · 3 years ago
> Most manufacturers have at least one decent EV on the market now.

On paper, yeah. But they are manufactured in pathetically small quantities.

xiphias2 · 3 years ago
As a comparision it's equivalent to the production car speed record in 2007:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Production_car_speed_record

jansan · 3 years ago
So glad to see that Rimac seems to be doing well. They had great plans for the 2020 Geneva motor show, where the C_TWO (now Nevera) was supposed to be officially presented, but the show was one of the first major events canceled due to COVID-19, so I was a bit worried about their future. Looks like they made it!
jdhn · 3 years ago
Porsche, Volkswagen, and Rimac entered a joint venture where Bugatti was combined with Rimac [0]. Rimac (or is it Rimac-Bugatti now?) isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

[0] https://www.volkswagenag.com/en/news/2021/07/Bugatti-Rimac.h...

TacticalCoder · 3 years ago
Porsche, once described as the "Hedge fund which happened to also make cars", took control of both Rimac and Bugatti during that deal:

> Rimac will hold a 55 per cent share in the Bugatti Rimac joint venture, while Porsche will have a 45 per cent share. Porsche also holds a 24 per cent share in Rimac directly.

Which means Porsche owns more than 50% of the Rimac-Bugatti joint venture, they did it on purpose.

Porsche also recently spun off of VW (Porsche famously failed it's short squeeze on VW: they'd have acquired VW had the 2008 financial crisis not hit) and back then VW had to come to Porsche's rescue.

onion2k · 3 years ago
412kph (258mph)

That's some slightly dodgy math. 412kph is 256mph according to my conversion, and Google, and Wolfram.

More interestingly, that's approximately Mach 0.3.

hnuser123456 · 3 years ago
The article hints they picked 1/3 the speed of sound as the target.
selykg · 3 years ago
That quarter mile time alone is impressive. An 8.5 quarter mile time is really freaking moving.
runnerup · 3 years ago
For comparison the $136,000 Tesla Model S plaid has been clocked at a 8.83 second 1/4th mile. But that took some time for a customer to eventually set. Initially it was reported to be 9.2 seconds with Car and Driver seeing 9.4 seconds. So the $2.1 million Nevera may see another few tenths shaved off over the next 6-24 months.

The model S plaid was initially governor-locked to 162 mph / 260 mph but has since been recorded reaching up to 216 mph / 348 km/h. The Nevera’s 412 kph is 256 mph.

Reaching 256 mph requires 40% more power to overcome just wind resistance than to reach 216 mph. If you doubled the power of the Tesla Model S Plaid you'd potentially reach somewhat shy of 305 mph (ignoring all drag other than wind). If you doubled the power of the Never you'd potentially reach somewhat less than 362 mph (ignoring all drag other than wind).

I believe Tesla's 0-60 time is probably mainly tire friction limited rather than power-limited. It achieves average forward G's of 1.37G's, which is really pushing what people think matches the maximum frictional coefficients of street-legal tires using modern technology. Non street-legal F1 tires reach about 5G’s on braking. This is equivalent to a force of 6200 lbs-force acting on the Tesla with mass of 4766 lbs-mass. If there were a theoretical abundance of power available to sustain keeping the tires at their frictional limit, the Tesla Model S Plaid would max out at 628 mph in the absence of additional frictions beyond additional wind resistance.

At this speed, 628 mph, the tires would lose traction if any more power was applied to the wheels. To reach this speed would require over 8 times as much horsepower as the Tesla Model S currently uses to reach 216 mph.

So anyways, that's the ceiling for these vehicles. Somewhere around 8,000 horsepower. However, worth noting that the fastest land speed records for wheel-driven vehicles is only 400mph. And the fastest electric wheel-driven vehicle (Buckeye Bullet) achieved >300mph (almost 500kph) using an engine with only 400HP. It is very, very thin though with minimal frontal area, and definitely not street-legal.

Assuming that 400mph is a hard limit for tires and other mechanical systems, that would require the Tesla to produce about 3400 horsepower.

localhost · 3 years ago
That same driver of the stripped Model S Plaid put a lighter friend (60lbs lighter) and clocked an 8.77 @ 162.55mph. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvcmHUZ7jPU
judge2020 · 3 years ago
260 km/h might be the limit in EU but it's 174 mph in the US https://youtu.be/prX7yF0T_gs .
mywittyname · 3 years ago
This is drag race car levels of performance. This would compete in the NHRA Super Comp class if it were a race car.
js2 · 3 years ago
> 412kph (258mph)

412 kph is 256 mph, not 258 mph. To go any faster in the U.S. they're going to need another byte.

sbayeta · 3 years ago
Have my vote
rootusrootus · 3 years ago
Sounds like an unofficial record, yes? Generally, real world records require running the top speed in both directions within a set amount of time.