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dang · 4 years ago
You had a big Show HN with this project a few weeks ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29270909, as well as 15 other submissions: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=okozzie.

Beyond that, you have posted it dozens of additional times and then deleted it. That's abusive. It's also against the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

Note this guideline as well: "Please don't use HN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff occasionally, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity." You've been breaking that one badly too.

okozzie · 4 years ago
It's a huge update each time! This is completely different to the last and I posted this to show the new landing page...

99% of the discussion is focused on the landing page

dang · 4 years ago
That argument might hold some water if you hadn't been blatantly abusing the submission system and violating the site guidelines.

From https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html: "If a story has not had significant attention in the last year or so, a small number of reposts is ok." Emphasis added.

From both https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html and https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html: "Please don't delete and repost. Deletion is for things that shouldn't have been submitted in the first place."

From https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html: "Please don't use HN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff occasionally, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity."

blutack · 4 years ago
See also: https://lingscars.com/

Yes, it's a real car leasing company. Desktop version is best but mobile is still great.

tzs · 4 years ago
That assaults you with a mix of garish colors and animations, but sections of sanity break through now and there.

The site for Yvette's Bridal Formal, sadly now gone but archived [1], lacks the animations, but doubles down on the color assault and doesn't interrupt it with any sanity for arguably more effective inflection of mental damage upon the viewer.

[1] https://yvettesbridalformal.p1r8.net/

BTCOG · 4 years ago
Mental illness in word usage and web design. Some of the words in there remind me of if a Terry A. Davis was untalented, and did web design instead of write compilers, langs, and OS'.
rackjack · 4 years ago
It even directly downloads a song, too. Incredible.
isoprophlex · 4 years ago
This must be the global optimum for car site freshness, super amazing.

https://m.lingscars.com/ghc

"god hates cars"

You can't make this shit up. I hope they can keep this up forever.

matthewcford · 4 years ago
The copywriting is very fresh and to the point: “ You can take the Hyundai Tucson abroad to any normal destination (usually excluding dodgy places like Albania, etc), but you should apply for a VE103 form from the finance company before you go, which proves to the damn foreign police that you have permission to use the car.”
ImaCake · 4 years ago
> Note to Americans: the £ is like the $, except bigger

This is just perfect. I love this website so much. If I lived in the UK I would seriously consider buying from this website. So I guess this advertising works for me.

cosmodisk · 4 years ago
It's a multimillion pound business- she's been around for ages.
bqmjjx0kac · 4 years ago
View source, it's worth it.
slaymaker1907 · 4 years ago
I'm kind of sad they minified their CSS and some of their JS. Sure minification saves some bytes, but I really wonder how much we really save assuming the server uses compression. I love being able to see how different sites work and minification makes that a lot harder.
belter · 4 years ago
After such an amazing page I am somewhat disappointed with the real thing...

https://www.google.com/maps/place/LINGsCARS/@54.9613364,-1.6...

jshmrsn · 4 years ago
Another fun one: http://www.canliscrabshack.com/

Part of what makes this fun is that Canlis is a high end dining restaurant and generally uses a very modern/professional aesthetic in their branding: https://canlis.com/

jrockway · 4 years ago
There's something very appealing to me about people who name their companies after themselves. Ling's cars, Prusa Research, Linus Media Group. Maybe I'm only remembering the good examples, but when you put yourself out there, it seems like there is a strong incentive to not fuck up your reputation.
mananaysiempre · 4 years ago
The 19th century feel it lends may also be a part of it, and is also not accidental: the naming scheme originates from the times before the modern corporation, where no isolation from liability meant a failed business could easily leave the founder on the street (but loans were also much less accessible). Not much to lose further, then, is there?
webmaven · 4 years ago
> There's something very appealing to me about people who name their companies after themselves. Ling's cars, Prusa Research, Linus Media Group. Maybe I'm only remembering the good examples, but when you put yourself out there, it seems like there is a strong incentive to not fuck up your reputation.

So it would seem, but companies can and do survive their founders, and at that point they are no different than any other. Not to mention that founders can be motivated by reputation in an idiosyncratic manner.

N1H1L · 4 years ago
Dell is another big one I can think of.
simonswords82 · 4 years ago
I've leased a car from Ling's, don't be fooled by the website. Their back office systems are fantastic and optimise the paperwork process perfectly.

Great customer service too - she runs an excellent business.

She was on UK dragon's den too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc1ktZRZ5ZM

belter · 4 years ago
We take it up a notch...

http://www.subgenius.com/newdevivals.html

"Become an Ordained Minister" http://www.subgenius.com/index.htm

npteljes · 4 years ago
One I found that's similar is http://9front.org/. I scratched my head in disbelief because I was looking for an operating system, and the website looked like I arrived at a kooky conteo place.
tgtweak · 4 years ago
Pretty effective. A great validation that single-page approach to landers actually works really well.
slivanes · 4 years ago
"Made in the People's Republic of China (Ling, not the website... which was handcrafted by Ling, in the UK)" :)
throwaway984393 · 4 years ago
My god, it's full of gifs.
agumonkey · 4 years ago
ww520 · 4 years ago
A/B tests led down the uncharted path.
onepointsixC · 4 years ago
That's quite something
POiNTx · 4 years ago
This is a work of art.
sabujp · 4 years ago
it's gross, i love it
davio · 4 years ago
I was expecting a cookie consent form...

and then a prompt to subscribe to your email newsletter...

and then a modal box offering 15% off

UX is probably in the top half of commercial sites

hermitdev · 4 years ago
It also renders fine (and quickly) with no Javascript. I'm going to guess it's probably also friendly on the data. It's (mostly) legible, despite the color scheme. There's no autoplaying video or audio that assaults my senses.

I think we could use more design like this on the web, but, you know, with interesting stuff to read.

vmception · 4 years ago
And a notifications permission from your browser or directly from the Operating System

Followed by the same for location access

And then finding out I have to consider turning off ad block to consider consuming the content

And then turning it off and refreshing the page just to find it was paywalled all along, just under the fold!

commandlinefan · 4 years ago
Actually those things are all super "professional", they just shouldn't be...
kreeben · 4 years ago
Yeah this has nothing on:

"Hey 50.000 people are looking to book this exact room at this exact moment".

So unannoying, this site, that it's not even funny.

bdcravens · 4 years ago
Don't forget scroll-jacking and loading in 5MB of framework files
bhopro · 4 years ago
bringing me back to when the internet was beautiful.
MrOxiMoron · 4 years ago
install to your home screen, install the app
platz · 4 years ago
"unprofessional" is the wrong word. It's simply punk/brutalist.

You can find a similar aesthetic in many art spaces:

https://rhizome.org/events/

https://indigo.ooo/en/

https://2019.indigo.ooo/en/

https://2017.indigo.ooo/en/

jessriedel · 4 years ago
Punk is explicitly unprofessional.

> "The punk ethos is primarily made up of beliefs such as non-conformity, anti-authoritarianism, anti-corporatism, a do-it-yourself ethic, anti-consumerist, anti-corporate greed, direct action and not "selling out"."

That punk is treated as a serious artistic subject does not conflict with that. There's lots of other unprofessional subjects and motifs in art spaces, e.g., nudity.

anm89 · 4 years ago
> Punk is explicitly unprofessional.

punk is dead,

It's just another cheap product for the consumer's head.

Bubblegum rock on plastic transistors,

Schoolboy sedition backed by big time promoters.

Cbs promoted the clash,

But it ain't for revolution, it's just for cash.

Punk became a fashion just like hippy used to be

And it ain't got a thing to do with you or me.

- Crass

Anything is professional these days as long as you can sell things with it.

makach · 4 years ago
professional unprofessional. we can surely agree to disagree. the web site is well made. nothing unprofessional about it.
sydney6 · 4 years ago
> "The punk ethos is primarily made up of beliefs such as non-conformity, anti-authoritarianism, anti-corporatism, a do-it-yourself ethic, anti-consumerist, anti-corporate greed, direct action and not "selling out"."

Substitute "Punk" for e.g. "Group" and read that sentence again.

fleaaaa · 4 years ago
They maybe anti of many things but still have aesthetics..
bikeshaving · 4 years ago
I hate to ask, but are you fun at parties?
csnover · 4 years ago
Quite a few examples of this aesthetic can be found on Brutalist Websites[0]. (Be forewarned, the Brutalist Websites site itself is brutal in a different way: it tries to load hundreds of high-res screenshots all at once.)

[0] https://brutalistwebsites.com/

marginalia_nu · 4 years ago
https://dreamcult.xyz/

I like this one

asow92 · 4 years ago
Reminds me of a quote from Bill Murray's character in The French Dispatch: "Just Try To Make It Sound Like You Wrote It That Way On Purpose."
allenu · 4 years ago
This aesthetic brings back memories. I remember it was a look about 10 years ago with blogs like Hipster Runoff using it.
kgwxd · 4 years ago
https://neocities.org is a fun one.
amelius · 4 years ago
Appealing to a small minority that is not your target group. Hence unprofessional.
fleaaaa · 4 years ago
I agree with sentiment, it"s slightly sophiscated and good haha!
Archelaos · 4 years ago
Brutalist? What does it have to do with concrete?
mherdeg · 4 years ago
usepath.com (YC S19) kinda has this feel too, I think I get it.

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okozzie · 4 years ago
Hey guys, straw.page is a drag and drop website builder that works on mobile.

I just redesigned the landing page, in preparation for a huge update coming next week (blogging!)

Twitter for updates:

https://twitter.com/okozzie_/status/1467951581408727047

oreilles · 4 years ago
Some time ago this was showcased on hn too: https://build.mmm.page/ It too is a dnd website builder that prone fun and brutalist design and whole tld also is .page. Are these two projects related ?
gnabgib · 4 years ago
straw.page has been posted by okozzie 16 times in the last 10 months, sometimes the odd URL hack to get past the repost filters (+?, /start, +?ref=hn, +?ref, +?utm) but mostly just the same page.
okozzie · 4 years ago
Nope, not related. Straw.Page actually released first haha
adamqureshi · 4 years ago
can you make me a landing page? :-)
drcursor · 4 years ago
Got to admit a "502 Bad Gateway" is not the most professional thing ever ;)
mcharezinski · 4 years ago
The same. I think it is technically correct and I initially thought that 502 error is intentional.
okozzie · 4 years ago
Haha! It's back up now :)
animal_spirits · 4 years ago
Down again! Very unprofessional. Well done
stevebmark · 4 years ago
No it's not
epse · 4 years ago
And down again
protomyth · 4 years ago
You are missing the "Under Construction" and flame gifs. To me, those defined the early era. Those were truly the mark of unprofessionalism.
Scarblac · 4 years ago
Also the guest book and the Web ring.
beaconstudios · 4 years ago
and the guestbook has to trigger at least 5 XSS alertboxes for it to be the authentic experience.

and the visitor counter.

ssalka · 4 years ago
An ex-coworker of mine had a hobby of building visually distressing sites like this. Here are the few I remember:

http://fastcashmoneyplus.biz/

https://ronamerch.co/

https://friendworld.social/

http://fakebullshit.news/

scintill76 · 4 years ago
I enjoyed the integration between ronamerch and fastcashmoneyplus.