Readit News logoReadit News
bathtub365 · a month ago
The status history on the page makes it seem like this was intentional?

> 17 Feb 2026 11:32 PST A rollout is going to prevent issuance from occurring. We will provide an estimate on when issuance will stop.

> 17 Feb 2026 12:14 PST Issuance is beginning to stop. A fix to resolve the issue will roll out in about 8 hours

agwa · a month ago
This usually indicates that the CA was issuing non-compliant certificates and needed to prevent further non-compliance. Will be interesting to watch Bugzilla for the incident report: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=CA%20Progra...
nickysielicki · a month ago
What qualifies as a non-compliant certificate?
zerocrates · a month ago
The heading above that:

"There is an ongoing incident that will force issuance to be halted."

Feels like they were alerted to some current problem severe enough that "turn it off now" was the right move. Breaking the baseline requirements somehow maybe?

kyledrake · a month ago
People went ballistic on me a few months ago for bringing this up, but this is exactly the kind of outage that makes me really, really worried about extremely short lived certificates. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46118371
codys · a month ago
I'm not sure I follow. This outage seems like it occurred for less than 1 day. The post you link to is about having certificates expire after 45 days. What's the connection you see?
jeroenhd · a month ago
Some CAs are experimenting with shorter, 7 day certificates as well.

still not an outage that would endanger anyone's ability to renew in time, but for small or extremely shitty CAs (and there are a lot of those) such an outage may take enough time to cause issues in theory I guess?

philprx · a month ago
that's roughly 1/45th probable downtime window = 2.22% downtime probability (yeah, it's a figure not a real proba ;-) )

compared to say, roughly 1/365 probable downtime window for a 398 days cert lifetime = 0.25% downtime probability

let's pray you don't need to rotate when it's down...

Dan Geer famously said: "Dependency is the root cause of risk"...

PS: even stricter shortlived durations in some context:

Internal/Private 1 – 7 days Corporate VPNs, Internal apps

Ephemeral 5 mins – 1 hour Docker containers, CI/CD runners

TwoNineFive · a month ago
You didn't read it or understand it.
aaomidi · a month ago
You know there’s more than one CA?
jofla_net · a month ago
but only one browser
TwoNineFive · a month ago
Your license to website has been revoked.
jacquesm · a month ago
You're joking, but still: that's one very possible outcome of both requiring centrally issued certificates for security reasons and browsers refusing to display websites without.

Effectively certificates are now a license to publish.

h4ch1 · a month ago
Thought my Revanced patch got outdated for a second. Phew.
ddtaylor · a month ago
Have you had to update microG yet?
h4ch1 · a month ago
Yes I had to, the v20.14.43 I patched a month ago broke just today; but updating it was pretty easy; just have to update[0] and repatch 20.14.43 with an updated GMS patch.

[0] https://github.com/ReVanced/GmsCore/releases/tag/v0.3.13.2.2...

ktaraszk · a month ago
Yeah, if Heroku's cert rotation depends on Google's CA and it tried to renew during the outage window, that'd definitely cause problems. The 8-hour ETA is rough. This is why multi-CA fallback configs exist, but most platforms don't bother until they get burned by something like this. Worth checking if your apps are actually affected or if it's just the dashboard/API having issues.
OhMeadhbh · a month ago
I worked at RSADSI when I was a kid and supported the custom spin of TIPEM Hayden and Sophia used at Verisign. This brings back some very bad memories.

But... hopefully... people created overlapping windows of cert validity so there's always a valid cert available for their services and can tolerate the CA being out of action for 8(?) hours. Imagine if your TGS/Kerberos or AWS IAM IdP was down for 8 hours.

antonvs · a month ago
For persistent services using the affected ACME API, the window is usually 30 days.

But that didn’t stop Youtube and Youtube TV from going down hard. I imagine they’re provisioning ephemeral VMs or service instances and relying on them being able to get certs immediately, or something like that.

TMEHpodcast · a month ago
It is a well-known fact that the moment YouTube goes down, the collective productivity of Earth increases by approximately 4,000%, which is immediately squandered by everyone going to Hacker News to read comments about YouTube being down. I myself have taken to podcasts… an ancient medium in which people simply talk at you for ninety minutes without a single sponsorship for a mobile game, and this is considered a failure
14 · a month ago
Well one must also argue the opposite. I myself have gained immense knowledge from YouTube. I have learned things like phone screen replacements or phone battery replacements. I call myself a mechanic from the school of YouTube and have saved myself at minimum $10k in repairs doing the work myself. I have learned to make endless food recipes or create things like giant bubbles or slime for my kids. My point is that I bet sure for some YouTube is a massive time sink waste of time. But I also wonder how much it has improved the knowledge, skills and ability of others. My dad often mentions how had he had YouTube when he was younger how much it would have done for him. He talks about having to go to the library and if lucky there was a book that could show you the knowledge you were looking for. He says but now you can find not just the knowledge but for example specific knowledge like car make model and year and how exactly to do job xyz. Ultimately I just can not imagine life without the wealth of knowledge YouTube has given me.
TMEHpodcast · a month ago
Congratulations! You’ve successfully avoided YouTube Shorts.
PostOnce · a month ago
They've begun injecting obnoxious ads into the downloadable mp3s on a lot of podcasts I've found. Hyperlocal ads for tire shops and bakeries.

I don't want to buy tires, I want to learn about ______. The ads don't even make sense because they're irrelevant.

0_____0 · a month ago
VPN to Sweden to get the IP geolocated ads to retarget. The ads still exist but they're less obnoxious, and they're often in Swedish so you don't have to know what they're on about anyway.
moregrist · a month ago
Welcome to radio 2.0.

Give it another 10-20 years and your 2 hour podcasts will be 30 minutes of morning zoo DJ banter, 10 minutes of guests, and 1.5 hours of ads.

We’ll have reached peak 90s all over again. With any luck we’ll avoid recreating the conditions for another Nickelback and can stay in the weird zone where Trip Hop and pop punk could chart at the same time.

ideasarecool · a month ago
At least it is somewhat relevant. Hearing ads about Irish telecom operator ads at the other side of europe is pretty goofy. What's the actual point? Just worsening the podcast experience?
staticassertion · a month ago
I listen to multi-hour unsponsored content on Youtube almost exclusively.
bdavbdav · a month ago
This comment sponsored by Vivo barefoot. I really do wear them myself. Honest.
2Gkashmiri · a month ago
I watched a movie, same late night talk show host, something like "welcome night owls".

I "loved" the style but I haven't found any actual radio on the internet of that style or a podcast. Not sure about name of movie but I do remember it being in the last 10-15 years.

kidfiji · a month ago
Ah, so that’s probably why YouTube is also down (at the time of this comment)
gzread · a month ago
I am playing a YouTube video (since the time of this comment) and it has not been interrupted.
brikym · a month ago
I am too. But I just loaded up a new youtube page and it's completely white except for a few menu buttons.
dyauspitr · a month ago
You can still see your subscription videos, just not the homepage.
cookiengineer · a month ago
> I am playing a YouTube video (since the time of this comment) and it has not been interrupted.

So you're using snakeoil certificates and MITM proxies at work?

ekr____ · a month ago
Perhaps the same underlying cause, but there's no reason why Google's public CA being temporarily down would bring YouTube down.
silverquiet · a month ago
If multiple services are affected, it's probably some underlying infrastructure issue.
thayne · a month ago
It could prevent Google from rotating in new instances, because they aren't able to obtain a certificate.

Although, if that is the case, I would expect to to impact basically every google site.

qmarchi · a month ago
Google uses mTLS for communications between systems and it could just be bad timing.
dijit · a month ago
youtube (recommendations/homepage) also seems down, I wonder if its relater.
dyauspitr · a month ago
I can see all the videos and play the ones in my subscription tab though.

Dead Comment