"There is an ongoing incident that will force issuance to be halted."
Feels like they were alerted to some current problem severe enough that "turn it off now" was the right move. Breaking the baseline requirements somehow maybe?
People went ballistic on me a few months ago for bringing this up, but this is exactly the kind of outage that makes me really, really worried about extremely short lived certificates. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46118371
I'm not sure I follow. This outage seems like it occurred for less than 1 day. The post you link to is about having certificates expire after 45 days. What's the connection you see?
Some CAs are experimenting with shorter, 7 day certificates as well.
still not an outage that would endanger anyone's ability to renew in time, but for small or extremely shitty CAs (and there are a lot of those) such an outage may take enough time to cause issues in theory I guess?
You're joking, but still: that's one very possible outcome of both requiring centrally issued certificates for security reasons and browsers refusing to display websites without.
Effectively certificates are now a license to publish.
Yes I had to, the v20.14.43 I patched a month ago broke just today; but updating it was pretty easy; just have to update[0] and repatch 20.14.43 with an updated GMS patch.
Yeah, if Heroku's cert rotation depends on Google's CA and it tried to renew during the outage window, that'd definitely cause problems. The 8-hour ETA is rough. This is why multi-CA fallback configs exist, but most platforms don't bother until they get burned by something like this. Worth checking if your apps are actually affected or if it's just the dashboard/API having issues.
I worked at RSADSI when I was a kid and supported the custom spin of TIPEM Hayden and Sophia used at Verisign. This brings back some very bad memories.
But... hopefully... people created overlapping windows of cert validity so there's always a valid cert available for their services and can tolerate the CA being out of action for 8(?) hours. Imagine if your TGS/Kerberos or AWS IAM IdP was down for 8 hours.
For persistent services using the affected ACME API, the window is usually 30 days.
But that didn’t stop Youtube and Youtube TV from going down hard. I imagine they’re provisioning ephemeral VMs or service instances and relying on them being able to get certs immediately, or something like that.
It is a well-known fact that the moment YouTube goes down, the collective productivity of Earth increases by approximately 4,000%, which is immediately squandered by everyone going to Hacker News to read comments about YouTube being down. I myself have taken to podcasts… an ancient medium in which people simply talk at you for ninety minutes without a single sponsorship for a mobile game, and this is considered a failure
Well one must also argue the opposite. I myself have gained immense knowledge from YouTube. I have learned things like phone screen replacements or phone battery replacements. I call myself a mechanic from the school of YouTube and have saved myself at minimum $10k in repairs doing the work myself. I have learned to make endless food recipes or create things like giant bubbles or slime for my kids. My point is that I bet sure for some YouTube is a massive time sink waste of time. But I also wonder how much it has improved the knowledge, skills and ability of others.
My dad often mentions how had he had YouTube when he was younger how much it would have done for him. He talks about having to go to the library and if lucky there was a book that could show you the knowledge you were looking for. He says but now you can find not just the knowledge but for example specific knowledge like car make model and year and how exactly to do job xyz.
Ultimately I just can not imagine life without the wealth of knowledge YouTube has given me.
VPN to Sweden to get the IP geolocated ads to retarget. The ads still exist but they're less obnoxious, and they're often in Swedish so you don't have to know what they're on about anyway.
Give it another 10-20 years and your 2 hour podcasts will be 30 minutes of morning zoo DJ banter, 10 minutes of guests, and 1.5 hours of ads.
We’ll have reached peak 90s all over again. With any luck we’ll avoid recreating the conditions for another Nickelback and can stay in the weird zone where Trip Hop and pop punk could chart at the same time.
At least it is somewhat relevant. Hearing ads about Irish telecom operator ads at the other side of europe is pretty goofy. What's the actual point? Just worsening the podcast experience?
I watched a movie, same late night talk show host, something like "welcome night owls".
I "loved" the style but I haven't found any actual radio on the internet of that style or a podcast. Not sure about name of movie but I do remember it being in the last 10-15 years.
> 17 Feb 2026 11:32 PST A rollout is going to prevent issuance from occurring. We will provide an estimate on when issuance will stop.
> 17 Feb 2026 12:14 PST Issuance is beginning to stop. A fix to resolve the issue will roll out in about 8 hours
"There is an ongoing incident that will force issuance to be halted."
Feels like they were alerted to some current problem severe enough that "turn it off now" was the right move. Breaking the baseline requirements somehow maybe?
still not an outage that would endanger anyone's ability to renew in time, but for small or extremely shitty CAs (and there are a lot of those) such an outage may take enough time to cause issues in theory I guess?
compared to say, roughly 1/365 probable downtime window for a 398 days cert lifetime = 0.25% downtime probability
let's pray you don't need to rotate when it's down...
Dan Geer famously said: "Dependency is the root cause of risk"...
PS: even stricter shortlived durations in some context:
Internal/Private 1 – 7 days Corporate VPNs, Internal apps
Ephemeral 5 mins – 1 hour Docker containers, CI/CD runners
Effectively certificates are now a license to publish.
[0] https://github.com/ReVanced/GmsCore/releases/tag/v0.3.13.2.2...
But... hopefully... people created overlapping windows of cert validity so there's always a valid cert available for their services and can tolerate the CA being out of action for 8(?) hours. Imagine if your TGS/Kerberos or AWS IAM IdP was down for 8 hours.
But that didn’t stop Youtube and Youtube TV from going down hard. I imagine they’re provisioning ephemeral VMs or service instances and relying on them being able to get certs immediately, or something like that.
I don't want to buy tires, I want to learn about ______. The ads don't even make sense because they're irrelevant.
Give it another 10-20 years and your 2 hour podcasts will be 30 minutes of morning zoo DJ banter, 10 minutes of guests, and 1.5 hours of ads.
We’ll have reached peak 90s all over again. With any luck we’ll avoid recreating the conditions for another Nickelback and can stay in the weird zone where Trip Hop and pop punk could chart at the same time.
I "loved" the style but I haven't found any actual radio on the internet of that style or a podcast. Not sure about name of movie but I do remember it being in the last 10-15 years.
So you're using snakeoil certificates and MITM proxies at work?
Although, if that is the case, I would expect to to impact basically every google site.
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