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lqet · a year ago
I have used a standard Lamy fountain pen for 11 years in school, and later several higher-end products (ball pens and fountain pens). But a few years ago I discovered that I really like writing with the Bic Cristal [0]. It's reliable and writing feels very smooth (even better than with some Lamy products I own). I also like that it has exactly the same shape as a classic pencil. Of course it is also very relaxing to know I can get a pack of 50 for 14 EUR. You can gnaw away on it, roll over it accidentally with you chair, lose it, break it in half - doesn't matter, because you can easily afford to have 20 of these on your desk at any time.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bic_Cristal

sushid · a year ago
I feel the same way but with cheaper Japanese ball pens, my favorite being. I do have to disagree that a Bic Cristal feels "smooth" though. I think it doesn't glide as well as your average Japanese offerings although it does dry exceptionally well.

Personally I'm partial to the Zebra Sarasa Clip [0].

[0] https://www.zebrapen.com/pages/discover-sarasa-clip

bayindirh · a year ago
As far as I have experimented, nothing can replace a good fountain pen for me. Being able to use one for decades and use a bottle of ink for 4-5 years is also a great plus for sustainability in my book.

If I can't use a fountain pen, I fallback to a Uniball Elite or Uniball Signo 0.7/0.38.

On the ballpoint department, you can't get my CdA 149 from my dead, cold hands.

If you really want to use a smooth Bic, try Cristal Soft. If you want something flies, try Uniball JetStream.

JadeNB · a year ago
> I feel the same way but with cheaper Japanese ball pens, my favorite being.

Torture for a pen enthusiast! Your favorite being what? Is it the Sarasa Clip you mention later?

detritus · a year ago
I bought my daughter a set of multi-colour Bic Cristal pens and, aside from a weird plug that had to be removed from each tip (intentional? dried-up ink from the manufacturing process?) the textural quality of the ink is wonderful. I don't know what it is or how it's different from normal Bics but they are a pure joy to write with.

So I bought myself a set and now write in pink at work... .

__rito__ · a year ago
Yes, the "plugs" on top of every tip of pens are very much intentional.

They are found on every new ball pens and refills in India. I don't know the exact purpose of their existence, but I guess it has to do with leakage of ink.

I never thought I would see this question here! I now write with FPs exclusively, but removing those beads from newly bought pens were special experience to us as little kids! We fondly associated them with the joy of new pens. We used to call them "pearls".

khazhoux · a year ago
I had to look up the name, and then realized (ha!) it's the pen I grew up on, across two countries.

My body is probably full of microplastics from chewing away at them.

throwpoaster · a year ago
The Bic Cristal is my all-time favourite pen, to the point where I don’t really understand why other pens exist. I was recently thinking of getting a Mont Blanc for fancy business writing (contract signing), but went with the Cristal. Not kidding.

The one flaw: no upside-down writing.

hackernewds · a year ago
Other pens exist since the Pilot G2 0.38 had to :)
ykonstant · a year ago
You mean a Mont Blanc ballpoint pen? Because I wouldn't use fountain pens with their water-based inks for signing contracts (even inks that claim to be waterproof).
SoftTalker · a year ago
They seem prone to leaking. Like they develop some kind of siphon or capillary flow of the ink out the open end of the ink tube.
criddell · a year ago
You aren’t buying them from Amazon, are you? I’ve never had a genuine Bic do that, but I’ve had some cheapo bootlegs leak.
s0rce · a year ago
I also realized I like smooth ball points, used to use the finer Pilot gelpoints in school. The Caran D'ache ballpoint is quite nice for a more luxury product

https://www.carandache.com/us/en/ballpoint-pen-ballpoint-pen...

onemoresoop · a year ago
40 for a pen seems excessive for a regular budget even if 40 is not a lot of money anymore
kstrauser · a year ago
I've had quite a few nice pens over the years. For me, Lamy Safari with its triangular grip is peak ergonomics, and its price-per-usability is fantastic. I tend to have a claw-like grip, and the Safari forces me to hold it in a way that my hand doesn't cramp after 3 minutes. It's great. I love it.

But for quick jotting, like making shopping lists or bullet journal notetaking, I'm on board with this list's top ballpoint pick, the Uni Jetstream. If all ballpoints were this smooth and pleasant to use, I never would've bothered investigating fountain pens. I think they're fantastic, supremely reasonably priced, and rugged enough to lose in the bottom of a bag without leaking all over stuff.

I love my Safaris, but when I need to jot something down, I reach for the Jetstream.

linsomniac · a year ago
I'm also a big fan of the Jestreams, in particular the "Uni Jetstream Standard Ballpoint Pen - 0.5 mm". 5-6 years ago on a similar thread here or elsewhere, found a pointer to them and got a few, and I really like the precise line it makes, so I can do (what one of my coworkers called) "microwriting" between other lines of text. I use them mostly for note taking and bullet journaling. I've since gotten a few of the dozen packs, they are reasonably priced.

I wish I had a better solution for todo lists though. For a couple years I used a book and pen for managing my todo list, but always felt like an automated solution would just be better. I tried a Kindle Scribe and used that for around a year. It was a good "basic" writing experience, but really brought very little over just pen and paper (except that I never had to struggle with keeping the pages laying flat). I decided to try an Onyx Boox Note 3 as a "better Scribe", but shortly after that I abandoned the todo list entirely. Tried taskninja, but never stuck there either.

Any pro tips?

kstrauser · a year ago
Not really. I have a Travelers Notebook with their own lined paper. I got that for the goofiest of reasons: so I could feel like Indiana Jones when I was taking notes for my Diablo game. I’ve started using it for bullet journaling as an experiment.
gorgoiler · a year ago
The stock nib is also excellent when inverted (writing with the pen rolled over so that the “top” of the nib is now the side touching the paper). This is extremely useful when annotating diagrams, for example, as the writing is hyper fine.

I wanted to love TWSBI but our honeymoon period ended when nearly all of my barrels developed hairline fractures.

bpiche · a year ago
I've had a few TWSBIs over the last 5 years or so and I love them. Haven't had any hairline fractures yet - any idea what may have caused them? Am curious now
kstrauser · a year ago
That's amazing and it never occurred to me to try it!

I've had good luck with TWSBI. They're so pretty! I haven't used them too heavily or outside of a desktop environment though.

frereubu · a year ago
I love Safaris too, but unfortunately I handwrite very seldom and the Safaris tend to dry out quite quickly in my experience. I've got the Kaweco Sport, which sends to last much longer, probably because of its tight screw-top seal.
kstrauser · a year ago
Oh, very nice. I tended to use the Safari enough to use it before it dried. Having the option to not to is nice.

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pryelluw · a year ago
Every time this website gets posted I order like $30 worth of office supplies. Dunno why but it’s so tempting.
ein0p · a year ago
$30 is like five pens on that site, and that's if you get cheap ones. I don't even use pens often, and I still buy them from there.
gnabgib · a year ago
Largely the same choices, pens, photos, text from the 2024 copy of this: (168 points, 154 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38867708

https://web.archive.org/web/20240104200853/https://www.jetpe...

ghaff · a year ago
I've definitely gravitated to the bold gel pens for most purposes. Some inks actually even work as better replacements in some more expensive pens although I rarely bother.
maxglute · a year ago
Should have category for more innovative pen, what's new in the writing technology last yer? Their videos on overengineered Japanese stationary are great.
bnycum · a year ago
I always enjoy reading this list yearly, and the research that goes into it. As someone who prefers thicker gel pens I used the Uniball Signo 207 as I could easily find these locally as well. Then after reading their recommendations I switched to the Zebra Sarasa Dry because I always smear my writing.

Through Jetpens I’ve also discovered my favorite mechanical pencil, the Uni Kuru Toga.

spudlyo · a year ago
I have recently discovered the Kuru Toga pencil and it's rapidly becoming my favorite pencil too! Sometimes the lead is a bit shorter than I'd like -- I may check out the Kuru Toga Dive which allows you to customize the default lead length.
eawgewag · a year ago
Just want to say, I've had incredible customer service experiences from Jetpens. If high end stationary is important to you, I highly recommend this store.
escapedmoose · a year ago
Seconded. I was extremely impressed when in response to one of my emailed questions, they directly contacted a manufacturer to ask about the acid content of a particular paper. But that’s not all! They then updated the specs on their listing to include the info I’d asked about on their site. It’s so refreshing to frequent a business that’s so serious about their work!