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xattt · 10 months ago
I’ve noticed similar “mini” news stories trickle out after Apple’s announcements. Does this happen organically, or does PR drop tidbits like this to select sources?

It seems like a very specific thing for a reporter to ask and find out about.

Syonyk · 10 months ago
Look at the Tweet (X? Blurp? What do we call them now?) - it's got the spectrum of the panel, comparing previous and newer panels.

If you know what you're looking for in those, you can identify a lot of different phosphor configurations just by the particular shape of the RGB peaks - the older ones have a distinctive multi-peaked red emission that I've seen in various LED bulbs as well over the years.

I doubt Apple mentioned it to anyone. Applying a spectrometer to any new light emitting device is just the sort of thing some people enjoy doing.

jsheard · 10 months ago
> the Tweet (X? Blurp? What do we call them now?)

They're officially just called "Posts" now. It's a hell of a downgrade from how distinctive the old terms were, no wonder people still call them Tweets.

Community Notes was also set to be called Birdwatch originally, continuing the bird pun theme.

redrove · 10 months ago
> Look at the Tweet (X? Blurp? What do we call them now?)

X-crement

hyperknot · 10 months ago
It's also the first step in professional display calibration.
aaronbrethorst · 10 months ago
Xits
swatcoder · 10 months ago
Many people remain fascinated by Apple and the small choices that (traditionally) give their products a sense of careful and attentive design and engineering.

So there's both a supply of people eager to pick their products apart and a market of people eager to hear about all the little details and secrets.

While Apple probably does seed some stories intentionally, as their PR teams are sharp, they don't need to be doing so for swarms of these reports to pop up after announcements and first shipments.

MBCook · 10 months ago
It could simply be the people are now getting their hands on them and testing them for things that Apple didn’t specifically say in their announcements.
thrw42A8N · 10 months ago
That's my interpretation too, people start finding out stuff when they get their hands on it, and each has their own interests.
kmonsen · 10 months ago
I think Apple does not specify to give themselves flexibility to change. It’s not sure everyone will get the same panel.
kolinko · 10 months ago
I think Apple doesn’t communicate it because it makes some of the laptops with „the same” spec better and some worse.

I remember that was the case with ssds some time ago - some of the macbooks had a better one, some had a slightly worse one.

bzzzt · 10 months ago
The M3 line with 256Gb storage had a single SSD NAND chip which made it measurably slower than the M2 series with the same amount. Although irrelevant for most daily work it was a regression which seems to be fixed in the M4 line. Even then, I presume such a bit of bad news would trigger people looking for 'the best spec' to buy the storage upgrade.
GoToRO · 10 months ago
I'm pretty sure apple is just a marketing machine. They have pro apple posts and smear campaigns on all samsung forums. Main stream media marketing but also guerrilla marketing on forums, social media, even newspaper comments section. I only see this kind of thing from russian propaganda.
analog31 · 10 months ago
Interesting. As I understand it, shifting the red curve to shorter wavelengths, even by a seemingly small amount, would improve visibility. And something I've learned is that red vision varies by a fair amount from person to person.
bhouston · 10 months ago
> And something I've learned is that red vision varies by a fair amount from person to person.

Is there vision tests similar to audio tests where they figure out one's individual responses to different wavelengths of light? Super neat.

It would be cool to simulate different people's vision, not just colour-blindness but the more subtle variations.

NL807 · 10 months ago
>Is there vision tests similar to audio tests where they figure out one's individual responses to different wavelengths of light? Super neat.

Unlike consumer audio equipment where you can easily do a frequency sweep to test hearing, you'd need a specialist light source to do the same. Something like a tunable laser. You could probably use a prism to do a similar sweep from a white light source.

robin_reala · 10 months ago
There was this one for blue recently: https://ismy.blue/ . Looking at the GitHub, it seems like there’s a red/orange fork at https://ismycolor.com/
Sephr · 10 months ago
Does this mean better motion response times? The M-series MacBook Pro displays have notoriously smeary displays while displaying high-motion content, so this would be a welcome addition.
compass_copium · 10 months ago
It shouldn't make a difference. The film is illuminated by a blue LED and constantly glows uniformly yellow, which is the same mechanism as the white LEDs in a traditional display (blue emitter illuminates yellow phosphor coating). The LCD filters this to make specific pixels and would be more responsible. I worked for a now defunct QD company.
superjan · 10 months ago
The way I thought LCD/LED displays worked was by RGB filtering a uniform white backlight. Is it only this design that does fosforescence per subpixel? Sounds way more energy efficient.
impure · 10 months ago
Notebookcheck says no. Their M4 Pro only did 5-10% better than last year which is still bad.
xattt · 10 months ago
> latest Cd-free QD films are very efficient, feature as good or better color gamut and better motion performance

Possibly yes.

brailsafe · 10 months ago
So far, the answer anecdotally is no, at least not in situations where lit pixels are moved quickly into black areas. In practice, my obnoxious green text black background terminal was kind of gross to scroll, but haven't experimented much with others yet. Playing games has thus far been fine, scrolling in other contexts is fine for practical purposes. Happy to update this if you want after I ruin my new MacBook by experimenting more
spacedcowboy · 10 months ago
Hmm.

I just set up a 4K terminal (542x143 chars) using the 'homebrew' theme (green on semi-transparent black) and did

prompt% ls -larS RemoteAstrophotography_com-M63-Stellina.zip | awk '{print $5}'

4514072533

prompt% cat RemoteAstrophotography_com-M51-Stellina.zip| base64

... and it is happily scrolling up the screen, lightning fast, way way too fast to read, and responding instantly to CTRL-Q/S. Seems ok to me.

numpad0 · 10 months ago
Was phosphor afterglow ever an issue with LCDs? Just wondering
compass_copium · 10 months ago
LCD BLUs have a uniformly glowing background which is filtered by the LCD to make pixels. If there is delay in pixels updating, it would be the LCD causing it.
kayson · 10 months ago
Who manufactures their displays? I'm guessing they have more influence in the design or manufacturing than most players, but is this just a matter of them telling Samsung/LG/etc "ok, we're going to use your quantum dot displays now"?
AlotOfReading · 10 months ago
They source from a combination of Samsung, LG, and BOE (Chinese display manufacturer). The way the arrangement typically works is that manufacturers will send Apple preproduction samples and Apple will decide which are worth using for upcoming SKUs. The manufacturer will build out production facilities to meet that demand and whatever specs Apple wants. Apple may also help with investment or R&D to develop products to meet feature roadmap targets and increase supplier competition. It's a very dangerous game for the manufacturers.
brailsafe · 10 months ago
Is there more to the thread or just this one tweet/X thing? Response times notoriously suck on MacBooks, it would be nice to see that remedied, anecdotally it doesn't seem like that's happened yet.

Edit: Nevermind, same tweet seems to have been quoted across a bunch of different other news sites. Apparently Blur Busters claims an improvement, I'll try it out and see how it is in some other contexts.

anonym29 · 10 months ago
If you're not logged in to Xitter, navigating to a Xeet allows you to view the Xeet, but not the Xomments. Fortunately, there are open-source, self-hostable, privacy-preserving front-ends for Xitter, such as Nitter.

If setting it up yourself is too much work, you can use other public instances. One such instance is called xcancel. Load the Xeet as normal, then simply append "cancel" to the domain name before the period in your URL bar and hit enter :)

solarkraft · 10 months ago
In the context of a boycott, using/promoting Nitter is at best neutral - you’re not directly engaging with the most hostile parts of the site, but still engaging with it and making it easier for others to do so, unnecessarily promoting the idea of X being a good platform to post on.

I suggest not making any effort to use the site - rather just ask people to primarily share content from X by copying rather than linking. This removes the need to interact with it both for yourself and (more importantly) for others.

bsder · 10 months ago
I thought nitter shut down because of the Xitter api changes.

Dead Comment

bastloing · 10 months ago
I love how apple has lots of these silent innovations. They work hard giving us great products.
newZWhoDis · 10 months ago
I don’t care how much they improve the CPUs, not upgrading before OLED
matrix87 · 10 months ago
is OLED unequivocally better than IPS?
bmer · 10 months ago
I've heard that there are screen lifetime issues?

Also, from my limited experience with a single OLED screen, it seems that most stuff was created for a certain kind of screen without as much colour fidelity, and now that stuff seems far more...obnoxiously "saturated"?...on an OLED screen.

lloeki · 10 months ago
OLED has had lower peak brightness than IPS. It may not be perceptually so because of no-backlight absolute blacks and higher contrast, but the difference starts to matter in broad daylight where OLED may not be bright enough, irrespective of matte vs glossy.
baq · 10 months ago
For what use case? Watching a movie on anything that isn’t OLED is a painful experience for me now, but coding backends on an IPS is perfectly fine.
adgjlsfhk1 · 10 months ago
the pixel response and contrast absolutely are. Battery life is a little worse (especially in bright mode). OLED pixel response is around 100 micro-seconds compared to ~5ms for IPS, and each pixel dims individually allowing for actually good HDR
bhouston · 10 months ago
I think so, more vivid colors and better blacks and viewing angles. At the risk of burnin.
newZWhoDis · 10 months ago
Does a bear relieve himself in the woods?
imbnwa · 10 months ago
Doesn’t OLED pixel layout not line up with modern text rendering engines? At least that’s what I believe I’ve read from reports on banding around text on Windows in particular that makes long-running text work a problem.
cosmic_cheese · 10 months ago
Shouldn’t be an issue under macOS for the most part, which has used grayscale antialiasing for several years since subpixel AA isn’t of much benefit with HiDPI displays and complicates text rendering considerably.

If there are any problems, it’ll probably be with cross platform software that doesn't use native text rendering and assumes RGB subpixel arrangements instead of obeying the system.

wmf · 10 months ago
That depends which OLED panel you're talking about; they're not all the same.
ipsum2 · 10 months ago
People read text on the OLED screen of the iPad Pro all the time.
PittleyDunkin · 10 months ago
I can't imagine subpixel rendering is at all worth it on modern DPIs
user32489318 · 10 months ago
Ah yes, the classic disjointed graphs with unknown y-axis scales.