Except for the executives of course. Your guaranteed 30% raises are coming in like always, as well as the ability to disappear for months on end and then show up to 1 visible meeting and then disappear again with no accountability for output or overall success of the company.
Not as made up as the value executives bring to their company.
Feigning academic interest is nauseating by the way. You bring nothing to the conversation and demand other people do work until you reach some arbitrary level of satisfaction; even after doing the work you'd just disappear from the conversation and not have your opinion changed.
Searching through your comment history you've only offered citations or references a handful of times, despite having over 11,000 comments.
The fortune 500 where I use to work, the only pay raises you got were like Cost of Living, based upon Ave Pay for your job, and those raises were always around 1%. People who I know who got promoted did not get any raises due to pay overlap in the bands. All you got was more stress on a promotion.
So no promotions for working remote ? Sounds good to me.
Why does that sound good to you? Do the executives at the Fortune 500 you worked at not make enough millions to comically eclipse the average wealth of the people that actually run the company?
I gotta say, given the choice between a potential promotion and continuing to live a significantly happier life as a remote worker, I’d easily choose the latter.
My thoughts exactly. I'm done with the rat race. It's not a fair game where the rules change as you go along. I'm downsizing and getting rid of lifestyle inflation. I'd rather be free and remote with less pay.
Yep "quiet firing" I think is the new term for the old practice of forcing people out slowly by not giving them pay rises and making their existing position uncomfortable.
True, but there's a major difference between who leaves. A well-implemented RIF would eliminate many of those who prefer a Return to Office. So - for them - this is a better alternative.
At my company, the minimum is 3 days a week in the office, but the "expectation" is 4 days, and "leaders" are expected to be there 5 days a week. No idea what any of that means. I'm fully remote, so I guess I'm not the leader of the team I manage?
Meanwhile, the only remote people I saw get a "promotion" in the last cycle either got a title bump without a level bump, or were the only person on the ground in the country where they work. The only level jumps I've seen in remote positions is when a remote person leaves and a new office-based person comes in to fill their place, the new person is hired at the level the remote person should have been promoted to.
It's a shitty time to work in the corporate world.
>However, the efficacy of RTO mandates is questionable. An examination of 457 companies on the S&P 500 list released in February concluded that RTO mandates don't drive company value but instead negatively affect worker morale. Analysis of survey data from more than 18,000 working Americans released in March found that flexible workplace policies, including the ability to work remotely completely or part-time and flexible schedules, can help employees' mental health.
One possible translation: the company does not care about you.
Around a decade ago I was working at a developer tools company. An org within Dell was using our product. When we spoke with their management about how it was working, what their feature requests, etc. were, they'd frequently refer to the engineers as "the cattle" and were not speaking humorously.
I am not surprised that behavior is present elsewhere in their employee relations. It does not seem like an environment that sparks joy.
When I worked at Dell it was....not great. My org had a tendency to fire any manager who set realistic expectations and put in place anyone who would always say yes to the client.
It got so bad that my direct manager had a literal mental breakdown one day over someone resigning that was key to the success of a project. Like sobbing, throwing furniture at walls out of control break down. I got out of their right after that, last I heard my direct manager quit tech entirely and went back to his home country. That org was not setup for anyone to win.
But it was my first non-intern job out of college and it introduced me to the perk of WFH, we all had 2 WFH days a week and I loved it (especially since at home I could stream music, at the office 30+ people shared a T1 line). A couple years after I left, I got laid off, and desperate for a job, came back to Dell, but at that point almost nobody was coming into the office and I didn't have any teammates there so I just worked from home all the time. that was 9 years ago I think, and I've worked remotely since then.
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Feigning academic interest is nauseating by the way. You bring nothing to the conversation and demand other people do work until you reach some arbitrary level of satisfaction; even after doing the work you'd just disappear from the conversation and not have your opinion changed.
Searching through your comment history you've only offered citations or references a handful of times, despite having over 11,000 comments.
Practice what you preach.
So no promotions for working remote ? Sounds good to me.
But you know, it is almost impossible for regular people to get to the high exec level unless you were born into the 1%.
Can't believe I almost got suckered into making a 'promotion packet', while being the one person on everyone's speed dial.
I already did the work, someone else just rewards it. Time and time again.
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Is this out of a Dilbert cartoon?
Meanwhile, the only remote people I saw get a "promotion" in the last cycle either got a title bump without a level bump, or were the only person on the ground in the country where they work. The only level jumps I've seen in remote positions is when a remote person leaves and a new office-based person comes in to fill their place, the new person is hired at the level the remote person should have been promoted to.
It's a shitty time to work in the corporate world.
https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/08/dell_return_office/
One possible translation: the company does not care about you.
I am not surprised that behavior is present elsewhere in their employee relations. It does not seem like an environment that sparks joy.
It got so bad that my direct manager had a literal mental breakdown one day over someone resigning that was key to the success of a project. Like sobbing, throwing furniture at walls out of control break down. I got out of their right after that, last I heard my direct manager quit tech entirely and went back to his home country. That org was not setup for anyone to win.
But it was my first non-intern job out of college and it introduced me to the perk of WFH, we all had 2 WFH days a week and I loved it (especially since at home I could stream music, at the office 30+ people shared a T1 line). A couple years after I left, I got laid off, and desperate for a job, came back to Dell, but at that point almost nobody was coming into the office and I didn't have any teammates there so I just worked from home all the time. that was 9 years ago I think, and I've worked remotely since then.