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Brajeshwar · 4 years ago
This is sweet. Now, my wife uses Apple's Find My's "Play Sound" as I'm perpetually on Silent DND and I sometimes do not see her calls (she is in the whitelist and is allowed to use voice calls).

I would like to narrate a personal story from the late 80s. I grew up in a multi-family where my uncles own a lot of vehicles, including the left-handed drive Jeeps from the World War era (India uses Right-Hand Drive). Our siblings were raised by our grandmother. After she finishes cooking lunch, she always have the problem of gathering us around to eat. We would have all gone to the locality and the neighbors to play. She was always frustrated and furious about our lack of timing.

So, I repurposed a truck's horn so she can just press a switch and blow the horn loud enough for us to hear across the neighbors. I had it on the roof-top for quite a while, even after she passed away the next year. Thinking about it now, I know it was pretty reckless. It was so loud, that other families would remind their kids that -- that is the Food-Time-Horn.

scott_s · 4 years ago
This may be the same thing as what you call the whitelist, but in case it isn't: on iPhones, you can mark some contacts as "Emergency Bypass On." Even in silent mode, you will always hear calls and texts from them. You can also choose sounds unique to that person. I have the bypass on for my fiancee, and I chose a pleasant, unobtrusive sound for her texts. I have found this works quite well.
samatman · 4 years ago
Something I've found is that, in particular for calls, Apple isn't able to retain object permanence around contacts.

If I assign a contact a custom ringtone, I expect all devices to know that, especially if they're going to do the insane Apple thing where every.single.device.I.own rings at the same time.

I swear Apple thinks any call which hasn't been pre-selected for voicemail has world changing importance.

Brajeshwar · 4 years ago
This is brilliant. I was today years old learning this trick. I will still maintain a whitelist for in-laws, business partners, and others (limit of 20). However, I will add this to the core family (wife, daughters, and home).

For those looking, check this out https://www.igeeksblog.com/how-to-turn-on-emergency-bypass-o...

caioariede · 4 years ago
Oh my, this is a really great suggestion. I never heard about the emergency bypass before. I'll check it out. Thank you
11thEarlOfMar · 4 years ago
My mom used a referee's whistle. There were 5 of us and the number of toots indicated which of the 5 she wanted (two toots for me). If we were outside playing in the neighborhood, we'd get alerted directly or indirectly from someone who was tired of hearing the whistle.

If it was dinner time and she needed us all, she'd blow 'Shave-and-a-haircut-two-bits'.

Steltek · 4 years ago
Was your Dad an Austrian naval captain by any chance?
metabagel · 4 years ago
My dad whistled between his teeth. He was a prodigious whistler. As I recall, it was two tones alternating. Too bad we never measured how far away we could hear him whistling, because now I’m wondering. I’d guess half a mile though.
toss1 · 4 years ago
My mom used a cowbell... hadn't thought of that in years
dylan604 · 4 years ago
We had a 6" bell hung next to the back door. The same type as in churches where a rope pulls to get the bongs. It could be heard from a looooong way off. If it rang and we couldn't hear it, we were too far away from what was allowed.
foxtrottbravo · 4 years ago
We to this day have a cowbell mounted below the stairs to call everyone when dinner is ready
Loic · 4 years ago
In the French countryside where my father is coming from, every house had an external bell for the diner/lunch whatever important call. You quickly learnt to recognize the different tones and ways to ring the bell.

My parents had also the bell at the bottom of the stairs... and as a father of 3, I understand all the parents having one!

wrp · 4 years ago
My grandmother had a kind of wall-mounted metal xylophone at the foot of the stairs to call the family for meals.
Isamu · 4 years ago
Yeah we used a cowbell- farm living.
schleck8 · 4 years ago
> Now, my wife uses Apple's Find My's "Play Sound" as I'm perpetually on Silent DND and I sometimes do not see her calls

I had this exact problem until I scheduled my DND to automatically turn on during work hours and off afterwards. That has helped immensely

tata71 · 4 years ago
It does not sound like a problem for GP.

Your recommendation, depending on apps installed, could lower their quality of life. Proceed with caution, here.

bigjimmyk3 · 4 years ago
My mother had a heart-shaped "triangle" (about a foot across, so much larger than an orchestral triangle) that she used to call us in when dinner was ready. As a kid who did not enjoy hauling wood, my hearing was exquisitely tuned to hear that bell.
wdb · 4 years ago
I got called by full name when my mother wanted me.
yread · 4 years ago
We had a metal tube/pillar supporting the top floor of our self-made summer house and a piece of metal to strike it with. You could hear that for miles!
uptown · 4 years ago
My parents had huge a train bell that they'd ring.
susam · 4 years ago
Here is a rudimentary alerting system I could write quickly in shell and execute on my laptop:

  while true; do echo ok | nc -l 8000; for i in 1 2 3 4; do printf '\a'; sleep 1; done; done
While the above command worked fine on macOS with the default /usr/bin/nc, on Debian 11.2, I had to modify the above command as follows to make it work:

  while true; do echo ok | nc -q 1 -l -p 8000; for i in 1 2 3 4; do printf '\a'; sleep 1; done; done
Now anytime someone connects to port 8000 of my system by any means, I will hear 4 beeps! The other party can use whatever client they have to connect to port 8000 of my system, e.g., a web browser, nc HOST 8000, curl HOST:8000, or even, ssh HOST -p 8000, irssi -c HOST -p 8000, etc.

If your port 8000 is already occupied, I recommend port 41327 as an alternative for this alerting service. After all, 41327 reads "ALERT" in leetspeak.

By the way, visit http://susam.net:8000/ right now to send me some beeps! :)

TonyTrapp · 4 years ago
It's essentially the Hacker News Hug of Deaf.
CraneWorm · 4 years ago
neat! here's mine:

  while true; do curl -q --http0.9  http://susam.net:8000/; sleep $(( $RANDOM % 10 )); done

ddalex · 4 years ago
> This site can’t be reached - REDACTED refused to connect.

Am disappointed and my day is ruined

Villodre · 4 years ago
I bet you're having a fun morning with the beeps :-)
susam · 4 years ago
Indeed I am! HN readers are a fun group. I am receiving beeps almost every second, so I updated my previous shell script to keep a record of the connections netcat receives. Also, converted the beeping loop to a background job, so that the outer netcat loop does not have to wait for the inner beeping loop to complete before handling the next connection. Notice the '&' before the last 'done' in the improved alerting service below:

  while true; do (echo ok | nc -q 1 -vlp 8000 2>&1; echo; date -u) | tee -a beeper.log; for i in 1 2 3 4; do printf '\a'; sleep 1; done & done
Here is a log of the timestamps of the connections received so far: https://gist.github.com/susam/159c7d92659b3185eb0b0d683998a3...

i2shar · 4 years ago
On macOS you can replace printf '\a' with something nicer like 'say Lunch time!', or accept a query param and 'say $msg'

while true; do echo Coming! | nc -l 8000; for i in 1 2 3 4; do say "Lunch time!"; sleep 1; done; done

If you are on the client end of the equation and have ssh access to their mac: ssh user@host say "get your ** here right now"

samatman · 4 years ago
Almost anything is less nice than BEL for me, since I've had terminals set to flash-on-BEL for decades.
nirse · 4 years ago
Thank you, sending you 4 beeps and seeing that 'ok' was the most web-based fun I had in a very long while!
wwwasdfthrone · 4 years ago
This sound like a great way to prank someone’s laptop you have access to!
teekert · 4 years ago
I use a wife alert: She Never picks up her phone, that is until I use Home Assistant to flash the lights and have the Sonos say (via HA's tts): "Pick up the Phone!". Very handy.

I know a family where the kitchen table lights turn green when their (temporarily) disabled son needs something and he is upstairs. My mom used to hit the radiator pipes with her wedding ring for that (in the opposite situation).

lillesvin · 4 years ago
Remember the dude whose garage port opened and closed seemingly at random because his /toggle endpoint ended up in his browser's "most visited" list: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16964907 ?

I have a feeling the same thing could happen here.

dokem · 4 years ago
That's why you have to use a POST request. GET should be read-only and a browser will not re-issue a POST for things like most-visited, tab restore, pre-fetch, etc.
lillesvin · 4 years ago
Yeah, that's what the guy in the linked post is talking about. Various services (Skype/Teams, Slack, Twitter, etc.) will also send a GET if the URL is shared there. I once saw an accidental hotel booking triggered by Skype because the booking was performed through a GET request with a brazillion parameters.
jraph · 4 years ago
Someone just moving by 1 centimeter in the corridor next to me or coughing in any bedroom (if I don't wear my headset) will do.

OH, a bird at the window!!

I'm still able to concentrate. By the way, what was I doing already? (more seriously, I can progress and I am able to get things done and recover from interruptions quite easily, but almost never focused at a point I can't notice what is going on around me. Which suits me well actually)

bryanrasmussen · 4 years ago
I have the same thing, I can easily break out of code and get right back in to where I was, I can even pretty much do it with hours break, unless things are going very badly with the code in which case I cannot handle being interrupted.

I wonder if it's my ADHD that does it actually, I can handle quick changes of attention because after all that is what I do, but if things are a problem I need all effort to not switch attention and lose what I am doing.

Someone1234 · 4 years ago
Apple Watches have a cool Walkie-Talkie concept that could have worked well for this scenario.

I call it a concept though because the app as-implemented is unreliable and gets stuck in "Checking availability," "Trying to reconnect" every time you launch it. If you lower your wrist while it is trying to reconnect the app gets suspended and starts again.

So imagine standing there for sometimes up to a minute with your wrist extended while the Walkie-Talkie app tries to reconnect, all to hypothetically save time. It isn't workable. Which is a real shame because great concept on paper.

mikestew · 4 years ago
It's a feature used once and then disabled. It seemed cool back when we got our Watch 4s, but as pointed out, it seemed like someone's side project that somehow made it into production. Turns out, you could have just called in less time.
britches11 · 4 years ago
It's also a major battery drain -- probably thanks to the issues you mentioned.
smoyer · 4 years ago
If it dings occasionally, it means your girlfriend is trying to reach you. If it dings continuously, it means she's breaking up with you.

Yes, I'm trying to be a little funny but the point is that (outside perhaps work?), you should probably be a bit more engaged with the people that mean something to you.

azeirah · 4 years ago
I really wouldn't assume too much about his situation.

My girlfriend has autism and when I want her attention I need to ask for it like 5 times over a space of 20 seconds, if I don't ask multiple times she will literally forget I even asked in the first place. Sometimes it literally takes a minute. This isn't because she doesn't care about me, it's just how her brain works.

Maybe this is just a better form of communication for him while he's focused on work. Please don't assume ill-intent, it just seems unnecessarily rude.

beefield · 4 years ago
Out of curiosity, how does your girlfriend react if you just start talking to her without asking attention? (Reason I ask, occasionally I think I might be on the spectrum, and my SO has a habit of just starting to talk to me. Most of the time I miss the beginning, which annoys to no end my SO...)
teekert · 4 years ago
I'm very happy that the people I care about don't require me to engage with them constantly. Engaging with them in chats are not the right type of engagement if you ask me. Maybe I'm old.
kayodelycaon · 4 years ago
Or… people who require constant engagement go elsewhere because you’d not giving them constant engagement. ;)
kayodelycaon · 4 years ago
> you should probably be a bit more engaged with the people that mean something to you

If someone is neurotypical and fully functional... maybe? For someone who isn't, this is basically "try harder to be normal", with all of the guilt and judgement that implies.

For example: Telling a person with chronic clinical depression they have no reason to be depressed and are being ungrateful for having a successful career.

d0gsg0w00f · 4 years ago
When I don't answer my wife just calls me through the Alexa which is the creepiest ring ever. The sound is so foreign and my hackles rise whenever Alexa does anything on its own so it gets my attention instantly.
openknot · 4 years ago
For those curious about what the ring sounds like, it’s captured in this video (2017, skipped to 1:07): https://youtu.be/h5wmJbhyhC4?t=67
bjord · 4 years ago
if you think THAT is creepy, you should tell her to try out the drop-in feature
erwincoumans · 4 years ago
Indeed, Alexa make an announcement: dinner is ready!