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openknot commented on BuzzFeed News is shutting down   thedailybeast.com/buzzfee... · Posted by u/jbegley
gjsman-1000 · 3 years ago
I'm not going to miss them. The News Division put their foot into bad journalism repeatedly.

For starters, FAIR (Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting), a left-wing watchdog with Progressive right in their website title, denounced BuzzFeed News' coverage of Obama during his term as "almost uniformly uncritical and often sycophantic," and even "creepy" for literally having only one negative article about him in their assessment out of one hundred random samples from Google (though they specifically call out the majority assessed were News Division, not BuzzFeed the tabloid). Their top tech reporter, Ryan Broderick, was fired after plagiarizing for almost a decade, and basically the entire time he was working there. And publishing the Steele Dossier as though it was actual news at first, even though even Wikipedia says many of the statements in it were false, was also a low point; even the Washington Post in 2017 said it was bad journalism. So bad actually, that the editor of BuzzFeed felt the need to publish an opinion piece in The Atlantic today (yes, today, 6 years later) defending his actions. Another Pulitzer-prize winning journalist (Barry Meier) called the whole event a "media clusterfuck of epic proportions."

FAIR: https://fair.org/home/buzzfeeds-obama-coverage-is-99-percent...

Broderick: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/markschoofs/a-note-to-o...

Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/01/... and https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/11/th...

Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/04/ben-smith-...

Meier: https://bookshop.org/p/books/spooked-the-trump-dossier-black...

openknot · 3 years ago
BuzzFeed News also lost credibility to me during the Trump administration, when the Mueller team publicly disputed the outlet's report on a Cohen-Trump story.

From The New Yorker [0]:

"The story was sourced to “two federal law enforcement officials involved in an investigation of the matter.” However, once it was published, other federal officials spoke up. Mueller’s office released a rare public statement, saying that “BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the special counsel’s office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony are not accurate.” BuzzFeed, and its editor, Ben Smith, have stood by the story."

[...]

"I recently spoke by phone with Leopold about his reporting of this story and his other work on the Trump-Russia affair. Leopold, who was previously at Vice News, is considered an expert at using Freedom of Information Act requests and was part of a team of BuzzFeed reporters who were Pulitzer Prize finalists in 2018. He has also been the subject of controversy. In 2002, Salon removed an article from its Web site after Leopold was accused of inaccuracy and plagiarism. Four years later, he incorrectly reported that Karl Rove, George W. Bush’s deputy chief of staff, had been indicted in the investigation into the outing of the C.I.A. agent Valerie Plame. (Leopold was open about past substance abuse and mental health issues in a 2006 memoir, “News Junkie.”)"

I still respect the outlet's FIFA story, but BuzzFeed News remained a step below mainstream outlets with investigations like The Washington Post.

[0] https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/a-buzzfeed-reporter-e...

openknot commented on What ChatGPT reveals about the collapse of support for higher education   crookedtimber.org/2023/01... · Posted by u/6LLvveMx2koXfwn
bioemerl · 3 years ago
Chat GPT reveals that academia has fallen short of the trend as follows.

" When you are growing and everyone trusts you, you can do no wrong, and your mistakes shrink into nothing on their own."

" When you begin to shrink and your reputation sours, you can do no right, your wrongs balloon catastrophically and your rights slowly shrink into nothing like your wrongs used to"

Academia I'm sure provides tons of stuff, but once you sour your reputation and you pop your balloon, it's very very hard to recover from it. We've gone from a world where the average person trusts institutions to a world where the average person doesn't.

Even I don't trust anything coming out of any large institution anymore. If I look up news, and I see CNN and MSNBC and any of those big networks, I keep scrolling until I find someone showing me the raw event with no commentary.

If I search some review I scroll past all of the official review sites and find some random nobody who appears to be expressing their own experiences.

Why?

Because I don't trust anything bigger than an individual. Doctors hide themselves behind hospitals with a million accountant sent number punchers who are incentivized to screw you over.

Companies pull the journalists into their wings so that the journalists are beholden random advertisers, and can write whatever they want without much risk to their own credibility.

I'm confident academia is falling to very similar issues. These institutions take responsibility and spread it thin like butter over toast, and when you do that everything and that institution needs to be considered not credible.

All of these opinions of academia probably come from the behavior of a small fraction of bad actors who get popularized in the news, but because those bad actors aren't named and shamed as individuals, the institution takes the blame and all of the good things that come out of it are no longer worthy of trust.

openknot · 3 years ago
> "If I search some review I scroll past all of the official review sites and find some random nobody who appears to be expressing their own experiences."

That strategy has been tainted for a while. Lots of seemingly legitimate comments from nobodies on social media like Reddit are actually from old accounts bought by companies, especially for product reviews (this is an explicit strategy by certain marketers). Even many enthusiastic product recommendations from YouTubers are influenced by sponsorships (oftentimes, even if they disclose that they were paid to make the sponsorship, they then say that they "genuinely" support the product even if it turns out to be defective).

The best way to evaluate a review is more based on examining the content of the review (instead of skipping to the conclusion), rather than who the person is. A person's small blog with in-depth reviews is often very reliable. YouTubers with in-depth reviews (rather than quick product recommendations) are also reliable. Certain review sites are also likely reliable (Wirecutter is okay, though sometimes their recommendations are biased towards ease-of-use rather than getting the best result from a product), but it's best to look at what the reviews actually say (as I agree that other popular review sites are influenced by undisclosed sponsorships).

openknot commented on America’s Throwaway Spies: How the CIA Failed Iranian Informants   reuters.com/investigates/... · Posted by u/cpeterso
smcl · 3 years ago
That's wrong. Most journalists recognise that when there's a risk of causing someone's death if they release certain details, they have to consider whether or not it's responsible to do so. So while they do exist to sell newspapers (or, more likely, get clicks for online ads) the majority of journalists and orgs aren't quite heartless enough to literally name an informant knowing it'd cause them to be exposed and killed.
openknot · 3 years ago
In this case though, Weiner did not "literally name" the informant in The New York Times article [1]. He referred to the informant as a "retired terrorist" without giving a name.

In general, you're right about the principle of keeping sources anonymous to avoid harm. One principle in journalism ethics [2] is to "identify sources clearly" so the public can better understand a source's motives. But the other is to minimize harm ("Balance the public’s need for information against potential harm or discomfort.") to both the sources and the public, motivating anonymity in certain cases.

However, in this instance, Weiner didn't name the informant in the article.

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/21/world/cia-re-examines-hir...

[2] This is just one ethical code, but many ethical codes are essentially very similar: https://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp

openknot commented on America’s Throwaway Spies: How the CIA Failed Iranian Informants   reuters.com/investigates/... · Posted by u/cpeterso
Overtonwindow · 3 years ago
If you think that’s bad, you should read up on what the author Tim Weiner did. He outed a CIA informant in the newspaper because he could, which directly led to the man’s death. Timothy Weiner has blood on his hands.

Source: https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/revisionist-history/the-road...

openknot · 3 years ago
I read the show notes but didn't listen to the podcast. Is this really true? The linked New York Times article by Weiner never names the subject, but instead reports on a "retired terrorist" [1]. I don't see this an "outing."

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/21/world/cia-re-examines-hir...

openknot commented on Nobel Prize winner Gregg Semenza retracts four papers   retractionwatch.com/2022/... · Posted by u/lightlyused
4gotunameagain · 4 years ago
rofl :

> “What am I going to do with guys like that in a place like Afghanistan?” said the leader. “A guy who can do 100 pull-ups but can’t make an ethical decision?”

is joining the US military an ethical decision ?

have the navy seals ever fought in US soil ?

openknot · 4 years ago
Alternatively, through a very pragmatic lens: the interviewee is essentially saying that a military does not want unpredictable troops that violate rules of engagement, because it can cause a massive loss of public support among the citizenry and cause international pressure. This can force an end to the campaign before the military's objectives are reached.
openknot commented on Nobel Prize winner Gregg Semenza retracts four papers   retractionwatch.com/2022/... · Posted by u/lightlyused
PeterisP · 4 years ago
Why would that be cheating?

In sports, there is an expectation of fair competition which is violated when someone is using any kind assistance, one type of which are performance enhancing drugs.

In military, on the other hand, there is no expectation of a fair competition, and exploiting any unfair advantage over the opponent is actively desired. There a genuine need to get things done, and the only concern is the impact on health - militaries have historically used all kinds of performance enhancing drugs, e.g. amphetamines as 'go pills' for USA Cold war pilots, Pervitin in WW2, etc.

openknot · 4 years ago
Because it encourages recruits to cheat and hide things from leadership (instead of the only the adversary), and increases the risk of death.

In the military, one of the values is supposed to be integrity. The value of integrity isn't just idealistic: it's pragmatically important to military strategy to avoid committing war crimes, as it lessens public support for the military action among the citizenry. The public can then vote out the administration, where a future one can scale back the war effort. As evidence this is a value, the Navy SEALs in particular says [0]: "Uncompromising integrity is my standard. My character and honor are steadfast. My word is my bond."

On the health risk to recruits, from the NYTimes article : "It is hard to say what role performance-enhancing drugs played in one death when there are so many other complicating factors, said Dr. Matthew Fedoruk, the chief science officer of the United States Anti-Doping Agency. Even so, he said, the chemicals some sailors are relying on can interfere with the function of the heart, liver and other critical organs that are already under incredible stress from the brutal training.

"If enough people in a community are doping, he said, it spreads risk even to those who are clean, as the level of competition rises and more people are pushed to exhaustion and injury.

"“It makes it that much harder for the people doing the right thing to shine,” he said."

The military can either allow performance-enhancing drugs for all and provide adequate medical monitoring to avoid unnecessary deaths, or enforce the rules as written and test for it. Unnecessary deaths are in no one's interests within the country.

[0] https://www.nsw.navy.mil/NSW/SEAL-Ethos/

openknot commented on Nobel Prize winner Gregg Semenza retracts four papers   retractionwatch.com/2022/... · Posted by u/lightlyused
tyre · 4 years ago
openknot · 4 years ago
There was also an interesting discussion on the r/navyseals forum, frequented by applicants and veterans, which corroborates the steroid use (looks credible, with a pinch of salt as always because the comments are anonymous): https://www.reddit.com/r/navyseals/comments/x1hvaz/death_in_...

> "Sobering read. I really hope steroid use at BUDS isn't as big as this article purports it to be"

>> "It’s pretty accurate, the instructors even make jokes about it “Your roid rage is showing sir”"

>> "How could it not be, anabolics increase performance far outside the natural range and/or let you maintain what you could achieve naturally with far less effort. The effects can last well beyond when you stop taking them. You could take them from 18-21, keep training and join at 22 without testing positive but retaining a large (physical) advantage"

It's also very plausible from the NYTimes's article alone, from the report that the instructors had stopped testing for steroids, so there was no enforcement mechanism to stop the behavior.

openknot commented on Nobel Prize winner Gregg Semenza retracts four papers   retractionwatch.com/2022/... · Posted by u/lightlyused
not-my-account · 4 years ago
Out of curiosity, how would viagra help anyone pass hell week?
openknot · 4 years ago
The recruits believe it's a treatment for a lung condition where you cough up blood during training.

From the NYTimes article: "Many men were coughing up bloody fluid from a condition called swimming-induced pulmonary edema — a potentially life-threatening ailment that is so common among men training in the frigid water at BUD/S that SEALs refer to it casually by the acronym SIPE.

"[...] Seaman Mullen showed up for his second attempt at BUD/S in January with fresh determination and a used car. But by the end of the second week, he was spitting up bloody fluid and struggling to breathe.

"“I said, go to the hospital right away,” his mother recalled. “He said, ‘No, ma, if you want to go to the hospital, they will make you quit first. Besides, it’s just SIPE.’”

"Ms. Mullen said her son, on the advice of other SEAL candidates, started secretly taking the erectile dysfunction drug Viagra, which was against Navy rules but used by SEALs as a potential treatment for SIPE. He recovered enough to keep training.""

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