Here is a simple primer on mendelian randomization: https://www.psomagen.com/blog/what-is-mendelian-randomizatio...
Please review the key principles and assumptions section. Using MR to control for genetic confounding of heart disease fails all assumptions. Thats why it quite directly does not follow.
This is why the paper presented does not support the claim that LDL is the sole source of heart disease. I'd be interested to hear what the authors of that paper (which is legitimate) think about it being used to support the OP's claim because "mendelian randomization".
Is that what we were arguing about? I guess it was. At some point in thinking about this my frame must have shifted into agreement with you. Of course there are other causes of heart disease besides LDL, like blood pressure, duh. The smooth dose response is about the particular gene not being linked to heart disease through something other than LDL, roughly.
A clinical score changing with treatment is not unconfounded by mendelian randomization. When the genetics are clearly more complex than what you are mathematically randomizing for, the control doesn't solve the confounding. eg you haven't suddenly "proven" the effects are non-genetic. We already knew heart disease is non-mendelian. But showing something is non-mendelian doesn't mean you've shown it's not genetic. I hope that clarifies, because I'm not sure I can explain it to you in simpler terms.
The cited study addresses this, which is why I pointed to figure 3. They argue that if genes were causing heart disease not through LDL in any meaningful way, you wouldn't expect such a clean dose-response consistency across different genetic variants - it would be more jagged.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendelian_randomization#Defini...
Across different genetic variants, lower lifetime LDL -> lower risk of death. Check out figure 3.
The causality of LDL -> plaque buildup -> 55-60% [1] of heart disease related deaths is also well understood, so it seems clear to me that preventing plaque buildup in the first place prevents over half of heart disease related deaths.
Would like to know if you disagree, "Minimize LDL at all costs" goes current mainstream medical guidance, so I'd like to disconfirm my beliefs if possible.
[1] Number from deep research.
I’m not saying either side is right but when it comes to your health why not evaluate as many opinions as possible.
Where it reaaaaally gets weird with drones are of course, it's better if the other guy doesn't find you. What if they NEVER find you?
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