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neom · 2 months ago
It's not just students btw... we're dealing it this too. My wife is a Korean university professor teaching at an American university, and her visa needs to be renewed by next month. I'm Canadian and she has residency in Canada but the Korean embassy in Canada advised her to travel back to Korea to renew it. She got back to Korea end of May to find that the US embassy in Korea had paused appointments. Monday last week she was able to make an appointment for it, and indeed she was advised her social media will be screened.

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jan_Sate · 2 months ago
I don't get why the US thought that it'd be a good idea to vet social media accounts for visa applications. If someone's having ill intent, one could easily create a burner account and fill in some random content for the sake of getting thru the visa application. Or they could even just purchase an account somewhere on the internet.

Sad to see what US has become.

DragonStrength · 2 months ago
No one is pretending this is about terrorism now. They're explicit this is about curbing political activism by foreign students. Some outside the US miss that because few countries would have given foreign students this much room for activism in the first place.

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tuyguntn · 2 months ago
Do you think US embassy will reject political activism if it was against China?
mandmandam · 2 months ago
> They're explicit this is about curbing political activism by foreign students.

Freedom of assembly is a universal human right; not that anyone seriously expects respect for those from the US any more.

Hilift · 2 months ago
> why the US thought that it'd be a good idea to vet social media accounts for visa applications.

The catalyst was the campus takeovers by people wearing masks and causing disruption for months. That was a gift for the Republicans, delivered on a silver platter. They made that an issue every day in Congress from October 7 2023 until November 5 2024. It coincided with the resignation of several university presidents.

Columbia University President Minouche Shafik Cornell Martha Pollack Liz Magill, University of Pennsylvania Claudine Gay Harvard

Additionally, the US has a statutory requirement for biometric exit scans when a visitor leaves. It was completely ignored. There were entry scans, but no exit scan.

The simple fact is they don't want anyone not like them coming to the US, and unauthorized entry has diminished significantly. It's also the reason for rejecting birthright citizenship, and deporting unauthorized persons to third country staging areas.

The UK is in the same boat. The UK is currently spending ~£3 billion per year on accommodations, and costs are expected to triple. It's created profiteering companies and waves of human trafficking across Europe. France only recently agreed to stop them when they line up a row of 20 zodiacs to assault Dover.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birth_of_a_Nation

https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-college-presidents-who-ha...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/07/uk-asylum-seek...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2720n2kkjo

mixmastamyk · 2 months ago
Who are the they/them in your last two paragraphs?
zeroCalories · 2 months ago
The goal isn't to stop terrorism, or drug trafficking, etc. It's to curb opposition. There's very little difference between someone that's anti-american but keeps their opinions to themself, and someone that has no opinions. Why do you think China cracks down on speech? Is it for shits-and-giggles?
15155 · 2 months ago
> anti-american but keeps their opinions to themself, and someone that has no opinions

Why do we need to be admitting anti-American individuals to this country for any reason whatsoever?

News flash: visas are a privilege, not a right.

cced · 2 months ago
Are we now adding US to the list of countries cracking down on free speech?
AlecSchueler · 2 months ago
I think they call it security theatre.
dataflow · 2 months ago
> If someone's having ill intent, one could easily create a burner account and fill in some random content for the sake of getting thru the visa application.

The timestamps will immediately give it away if you try to pull that though. Not to mention that they could also (if they want) just harvest data on what accounts already exist at what point in time, to detect actions like this. Lots of data brokers have such data already. And they could just do some cursory searches for other accounts you might have too, if you don't deactivate them...

apwell23 · 2 months ago
Doing that would be visa fraud.

Why create any rule if ppl can commit fraud anyways?

Why ask for educational qualifications for h1b because ppl can create fake certificates( many do) ?

marcinzm · 2 months ago
Because then anyone can be deported at any time without any more process needed since it's visa fraud. Maybe even get your citizenship revoked one day given how things are going.
Chris2048 · 2 months ago
Would it? What makes aSM account "official"? If I make a burner account, it's still my account.
noobermin · 2 months ago
Along with the push for ending birth right citizenship and detaining citizens the goal is a white ethnostate. I doubt Trump is that cognizant of that but Stephen Miller definitely is pushing for that.
ivape · 2 months ago
Yeah, I mean, what was that whole we’re going to bring white South African immigrants here and kick brown ones out?

MAGA is a white supremacy movement, but calling this out in America is like trying to tell your best friend her husband is cheating on her. It’s going to be an ugly reveal and difficult conversation, but the facts are the facts.

15155 · 2 months ago
> Along with the push for ending birth right citizenship

Which other countries in the world allow pregnant vacationers to birth citizens?

hearsathought · 2 months ago
> I don't get why the US thought that it'd be a good idea to vet social media accounts for visa applications.

Since almost all major social media companies are american, and all major social media/tech companies are state/defense companies, the US already "vets" social media accounts of foreigners and most likely americans as well.

This has nothing to do with "vetting" social media accounts. It's about scaring the world so that the world stops criticizing primarily israel.

If we really want to "vet" foreigners, we'd be doing it secretly so that bad actors feel free to expose themselves on social media. This does the exact opposite. It's about controlling the narrative and preventing criticism of israel.

absurdo · 2 months ago
> It's about scaring the world so that the world stops criticizing primarily israel.

You should back up this assertion with facts and evidence otherwise nobody will take it at face value and it will be categorized as drivel.

tuyguntn · 2 months ago
So many things are being done to protect a single country outside of the USA, even on a different continent, including losing its credibility about free speech and human rights.
demarq · 2 months ago
Israel
marcinzm · 2 months ago
This has little to do with a single country and more with the fact that if someone is willing to fight for anything other than the current administration then one day they might fight against the current administration directly. Same reason Stalin sent those who fought in the Warsaw Uprising against the Germans to Siberia. Today it's the Germans, tomorrow it may be the Soviets.
tuyguntn · 2 months ago
> "if someone is willing to fight for anything other than the current administration then one day they might fight against the current administration directly."

So what? isn't the core idea in democracy "ruled by the people", Why can't you fight against the current administration with your opinion and opposition to their ideas?

gorjusborg · 2 months ago
I am taking a second to audibly thank the people who were arguing that privacy still mattered in the age of the internet.

People often don't realize how much they take for granted (like perfect forward freedom of speech) until it is gone.

pythonbase · 2 months ago
Students applying from Pakistan are also asked to make their socials publicly accessible for vetting.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1920307/us-consulates-in-pakistan-...

nisegami · 2 months ago
As a student I had to provide my social media passwords to CBP during a secondary screening. This was ~7 years ago. Stuff like this has been a thing for a while.
LightBug1 · 2 months ago
LOL ... There is no way in hell I'm ever being let back into the US ... c'est la vie. Big world out there to explore.
ognarb · 2 months ago
The US is not only restricting the free speech of their own citizens but also from citizens of other countries...

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