I just ended my Cursor subscription today, and upgraded from Claude's Pro to Max plan to reduce my Claude Code costs. They now include a healthy Claude Code allowance in the Max plans.
If one has already set up Claude Code with metered API use, one toggles between plans using the /login command. Once to start using Max, then whenever one hits a five hour rate limit and wants to keep working.
I've tried many platforms. I kept Cursor long after Windsurf, but Claude Code is a clear winner, as most people report who don't bristle at the cost.
When Cursor or Windsurf forks VS Code, they have a reason. Their chat panes always felt like periscopes; one has better control over Claude Code in a terminal, and this frees up one's choice of editor. I now use Sublime Text, fast and lean.
Signal-boosting this -- I use Claude Code too, and it's beautiful: all the benefits of typing long-form thoughts, ideas, strategy, combined with direct access (for the llm api) to the codebase (no uploading/downloading), and Anthropic's promise of not training on your inputs or outputs.
I find Aider more targeted, I only used Claude Code once or twice, but it tended to go off on its own mission. Aider just does what you tell it, no more, no less.
its a pity that it only works with Claude out of the box.
There is a way to proxy it to other models: https://github.com/1rgs/claude-code-proxy
I've found it works with Gemini.
But would be better if it just allowed switching.
me too. and they are pushing new updates everyday. If you are a emacs/vim user claude code is really pushing what's possible with a terminal app (the loading text, custom command, auto cursor refresh)
WARNING for Cursor users:
Cursor is currently stuck using an outdated snapshot of the VSCode Marketplace, meaning several extensions within Cursor remain affected by high-severity CVEs that have already been patched upstream in VSCode. As a result, Cursor users unknowingly remain vulnerable to known security issues. This issue has been acknowledged but remains unresolved: https://github.com/getcursor/cursor/issues/1602#issuecomment...
Given Cursor's rising popularity, users should be aware of this gap in security updates. Until the Cursor team resolves the marketplace sync issue, caution is advised when using certain extensions.
No it's an issue with Cursor using another companies infrastructure without permission. Think reselling access to somebody's Netflix account you just happened to guess password.
The "path to profitability" for every startup is "getting enough users and then getting bought by some big company". See Windsurf which OpenAI just bought.
Cursor is not about vibe coding. Vibe coding means you don't care about the AI's code output as long as it works. Cursor is all about efficiently reviewing the AI-proposed changes and hitting Tab only when you approve them. Much of the editing process is hitting Esc because the proposed change is not good.
I know this is a meta point but I'm pretty sure vibe coding is just an X meme that means whatever the poster intends. I'm not sure you can say vibe coding does or doesn't care about relative quality
Yeah, I'm afraid "vibe coding" is a term that quickly lost its meaning because everyone was using it to mean different things.
Some people use it to mean using AI for writing code in general. I've preferred for it to mean when someone who doesn't know how to code uses AI to write code and doesn't understand the output.
Agreed, that's how you'll have much more success using it. Basically, I ask it to write 4-10 lines at a time, if the lines are too many for me to comfortably review, I reject the change and ask more specifically.
there is essentially no difference if you give the agent total control in cursor, you can code entirely via prompt without ever touching the code after you create a workspace.
that is to say I can't think of any greater support of vibe-coding , you can open up a chat prompt and have at it.
Any IDE based editor feels like a stopgap to me. We may not be there yet, but I feel that in the future a "vibe coder" isn't even going to look at much code at all. Much of what developers who are relying on Cursor, Windmill, Replit, etc etc are doing is performative as it relates to code. There is just a lot of copy/pasting of console errors and asking for things one way or another.
Casual or "vibe" coding is all about the output. Doesn't work? Roll back. Works well? Keep going. Feeling gutsy? Single shot.
Vibe coding is just a prototyping tool / "dev influencer" gimmick. No one serious is using Cursor for vibe coding, nor will anyone serious ever vibe code. It's for AI assisted development-- in other words, a more powerful intellisense.
Cursor isnt for vibe coding. I use it. I ask the AI to do something I know how to do but it can do it faster. I check the changes to make sure everything looks good.
Yeah, this is what I don't get. How is Cursor that much better than Aider? When you have a great, free, open source tool, why would an investor pump money into Cursor?
This is similar to the sort of hype which happened with Clubhouse app ($4B valuation, then the users stopped signing up.), Hopin ($9BN until the pandemic ended) and finally Inflection AI ($4B and almost no-one uses it after the initial AI hype).
One of biggest risks is Microsoft who can further lower prices with Copilot (and they can afford to do that for years) for longer and rapidly copy Cursor just like they destroyed Slack with Teams.
There really is no lock-in case for Cursor (unless they acquire something else) as users can easily cancel and switch back to VS Code and Cursor can lose that ARR very quickly and the cost is the entire company.
For Microsoft? Costs them nothing.
This $9B valuation is peak euphoria and this is the best time for Cursor to sell as they are getting very greedy after rejecting a buyout from OpenAI (twice).
+1, they have no most, and we clearly see that big actors are willing to run at loss to get market shares.
At this point I guess people are looking for an exit, and the last investors will own an empty shell
If one has already set up Claude Code with metered API use, one toggles between plans using the /login command. Once to start using Max, then whenever one hits a five hour rate limit and wants to keep working.
I've tried many platforms. I kept Cursor long after Windsurf, but Claude Code is a clear winner, as most people report who don't bristle at the cost.
When Cursor or Windsurf forks VS Code, they have a reason. Their chat panes always felt like periscopes; one has better control over Claude Code in a terminal, and this frees up one's choice of editor. I now use Sublime Text, fast and lean.
The aider TUI kind of sucks, which I think holds it back a little.
I prefer the explicitness of aider (/ask, /add, /architect, etc) but people at my work have been moving to claude so I'm trying to keep up with them.
Given Cursor's rising popularity, users should be aware of this gap in security updates. Until the Cursor team resolves the marketplace sync issue, caution is advised when using certain extensions.
I've flagged it here, apologies for the repost: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43609572
Isn’t the issue with Microsoft’s legal barriers? This may take years.
https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1jrl2zw/micros...
I've used all 500 of my fast requests this month with cursor, I've 100% cost them more money than they've made from me every month I've had it.
Whats the path to profitability with this? they're expecting models to cost almost nothing and users not to just jump to the next coding agent?
Some people use it to mean using AI for writing code in general. I've preferred for it to mean when someone who doesn't know how to code uses AI to write code and doesn't understand the output.
that is to say I can't think of any greater support of vibe-coding , you can open up a chat prompt and have at it.
Casual or "vibe" coding is all about the output. Doesn't work? Roll back. Works well? Keep going. Feeling gutsy? Single shot.
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One of biggest risks is Microsoft who can further lower prices with Copilot (and they can afford to do that for years) for longer and rapidly copy Cursor just like they destroyed Slack with Teams.
There really is no lock-in case for Cursor (unless they acquire something else) as users can easily cancel and switch back to VS Code and Cursor can lose that ARR very quickly and the cost is the entire company.
For Microsoft? Costs them nothing.
This $9B valuation is peak euphoria and this is the best time for Cursor to sell as they are getting very greedy after rejecting a buyout from OpenAI (twice).