Kudos for shipping a product! I like the selling point of "$100K+ remote dev jobs".
Arguably a $100K+ is what someone in the US would assume to be the case in the first place, but still it hits the nail on the head being *exactly* what many people outside the US (and maybe a few more countries with similarly high salaries), including me, would want.
i.e, from the perspective of someone outside US: 'Now that remote work has put all potential candidates in the pool, let's also put all the salaries in the pool'.
The website is simple and has sensible search filters, especially for the location, e.g. "Worldwide".
As another person mentioned, "vetted" can feel a bit undermined by postings like this one
where actual salaries are much lower than the stated ones, but I have a feeling that whoever posted the job assumed PLN (Polish) and SEK (Swedish) currencies, respectively, which would seem reasonable.
Given that you've just launched, if these details are polished out in the near future, I'm sure we could all forgive a little "fake it 'till you make it" being thrown in the mix.
Thanks for your constructive feedback!
I'm a new father and I'm making/improving this product whenever I have free time.
I've created it from a pain point I've experienced myself: it's hard to find $100K+ fully remote dev positions when you're outside the US.
For the point with the actual salaries being much lower than the stated ones, you're right it's because the job assumed local currencies -> I've put it down on my todo list to fix it!
Again, thanks for taking the time to share your feedback I really appreciate it.
Overall like it, so take this as friendly suggestions because I like it and would love it to get better:
While I can get using the EU flag, which is also the Council of Europe flag, for Europe, it really makes it unclear whether the jobs listed as "Europe" are EU only (or maybe EEA?), all of Europe, and which countries are included... It'd be good to make that clearer. Somehow. Europe is difficult.
E.g. one job marked as Europe lists UK as a location they have staff, while another lists EU specifically in location.
Also: Currencies matter. While I'd happily work for a US (or EU) company, and have before, my salary expectations would be much higher if the salary is *actually denominated in USD (which I have done once), because of the currency risk I'd incur... As a shortcut while launching it's fine, but if you're going to grow this outside the US you'll need for people to be able to know what currencies are "on offer".
For similar reasons, you'd also want it to be clear to people which country they'd be employed "from". A lot of places it'll complicate things if the entity you're hired by does not have a local company for you to formally sign an employment contract with, so I'd want to know. E.g. if I'm going to sign up with a US company (I'm available; see profile) I'd generally just as well contract via my limited company instead as being hired by one gives me few benefits over just contracting, while conversely being hired by a UK company gives me (eventually, anyway) assorted legal protections that make it preferable to a contract unless the contract rate is much higher than the salary.
Thanks for your feedback! I've just answered a similar comment like yours about the currency, you're definitely right. This needs to be fixed and I've put it down on my todo list.
I understand your frustration about the Europe flag, it can be a bit vague. I'll improve it as I've written it down too.
I'll have to think about the country of employment. I'm going to look if that's easy to implement, maybe for some jobs that will be harder but in any case, if I can provide this information that can be useful.
Just having the info in the listings would already be a big improvement, even if you come across ones where it becomes a nuisance to search. I'd suggest doing that first, and then you'll also see from your dataset which search options is likely to add more/less value.
>$100k is quite a bit below what I'm looking for at this point in my career.
It's a rough pill to swallow, but the rise of remote work is inevitably going to pull things down to a "national median" somewhere in this area. There will always be the coastal tech hubs where top tier folks can go to make real salaries. But for the most part we (in the US) are going to be lumped together and forced to accept something in the range of 2x the average income instead of 3-4x, similar to how things are in Europe. Particularly when you consider the amount of LatAm/Canadian nearshoring going on right now, and the absolute glut of junior/midlevel devs on the market.
I heard this when my career started, and it wasn’t true then or now.
The skills just aren’t there. I run interviews and struggle to find anyone, anywhere, that can actually program. English proficiency is also hard to come by. This wouldn’t be an issue in most of Canada, but I’ve yet to see a Canadian remote applicant.
Engineers are not really commodities. The right engineer can really push your business forward and become a powerful asset. The wrong one can set you back years while your competitors surpass you. As long as there’s companies out there who want the best, the best will command higher salaries.
If you manage to hire a great engineer for a cheap price, inevitably they will have no loyalty and leave your company for a higher offer. Thus losing you money in the long term and harming your business. A remote worker can do this easily.
If you want cheap, the unethical thing to do is hire local talent that doesn’t enjoy remote work and can’t move easily. You entrap them into the job and pay them less.
What does "national median" matter in terms of REMOTE jobs? In theory there should be one global market then, where only (hard and soft, of course) skills matter. But I know we're yet not quite there.
legit question: do you have good luck cold-applying for high end jobs in this market? I just posted a senior full-stack developer job at 130-150 CAD and we've gotten 100's of applicants. So much wheat is going to get discarded with the chaff
I have applied to numerous companies and get what look like mostly automatic rejections despite many years of experience, shipping products, research, etc. I also have experienced friends who say hiring is very slow and cold right now, it's not just me. Do you use any sort of automation?
My current position was a cold application that pays over $200k USD. Sounds like the problem is on your end not being willing to sort through the chaff to find the wheat.
>California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New York, Nevada, Rhode Island, and Washington have passed compensation transparency laws as of 2023. Some US cities also have compensation transparency laws, including New York City.
Having been on the employer end of this, yes, a small company can find it hard to justify the fixed cost of adding another state’s worth of cost/effort overhead to hire one person. It’s a nontrivial barrier to deal with for a fully remote startup.
One workaround is to use a “PEO”, or “co-employment” provider, to be the employer of record and handle HR, insurance, payroll, etc. Though it can feel like a rather weird arrangement when employees don’t technically work for the company they think they do.
I’m poking around while on an airplane, so the network speed is pretty slow. The site crawls to a stop with each character I type into the search box. As a performance booster, perhaps consider adding a short delay before firing off queries to update the results or decoupling the the search box from the query result?
Crazy idea: provide a search box, and when the user hits "enter", POST the data to the backend, which queries the database, and then returns the relevant results.
It's possible to make autosuggest performant on poor Internet connections, it just needs a little more thought put into optimizing for it:
1. Debounce!
2. Use WebSockets to minimize unnecessary round trips
3. Cache previous results and use them when the input is a superstring of a previous input (e.g. results for "Android mobile dev" will always be a subset of the results for "mobile dev")
Also what does "no estimates" mean? I would have thought it would mean explicit salaries for each post, but i see many ranges, some with ranges starting below 100k (94k, for example).
I'm not making a big deal on 94k vs 100k, but the two points combined makes me (a casual observer) a bit confused on what is being vetted here.
"no estimates" because in a lot of job boards, when they don't have the salaries for the job posts, they estimate it based on the median salary of the position.
I only advertise jobs with salaries, I don't guess them.
Do you have a better wording to illustrate this aspect of "no estimates"?
Also, would you prefer having less jobs shown, but with a minimum $100k salary if it's a range?
Regarding the vetted aspect, it's related to the fact some companies aren't actively recruiting (you can read more in the article linked in the About page of the website).
Vetted as in, the companies are actively recruiting.
Regarding the point you're making though, thank you and sorry for the confusion.
The inaccuracy exists because it's (by mistake) advertised in dollars instead of the local currency.
As I work on this as a new dad after my full-time job, some little bugs are bound to happen while I improve it one commit at a time. Rest assured, every feedback is taken into account.
Some ads have their salary put in local currency, which is a lot less than 100k USD. IE. couple of Polish, Swedish ads. one swedish ad starts at 837k which is comical.
Yes, it's a currency glitch I'm looking to fix as soon as possible (when my little baby lets me have some free time). Thank you for raising this. I've deleted them in the meantime.
Very nice work, the number of American flags I see here really has me thinking maybe I should move back home in a few years. (Like, 5 to 7 - I'm not leaving Finland until I become really fluent in Finnish. Call it a self imposed challenge.)
Can anyone tell me whether they think $100k+ salaries are more or less common over there compared to 2021? My first job out of college with Epic was around $90k at the finish, but I was coming in fresh from electrical engineering, I wasn't a CS major. I plan to head back with the Georgia Tech master's in comp sci, and I'm pretty sure I could crush any coding interviews that got thrown my way even now given a few weeks to revisit my old Neetcode 150 Anki card deck. The only thing which might hold me back is the languages I like on the job the most are painfully boring (Python, Javascript, good old fashioned SQL, Bash to shore up the organized-electron supply chain).
Same, when I left the US in 2013 I was early career and the gap wasn’t as big but now it seems like European pay is just atrocious. I was ok with a 30% pay cut for quality of life, not 60%. Weak euro doesn’t help either.
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Arguably a $100K+ is what someone in the US would assume to be the case in the first place, but still it hits the nail on the head being *exactly* what many people outside the US (and maybe a few more countries with similarly high salaries), including me, would want.
i.e, from the perspective of someone outside US: 'Now that remote work has put all potential candidates in the pool, let's also put all the salaries in the pool'.
The website is simple and has sensible search filters, especially for the location, e.g. "Worldwide".
As another person mentioned, "vetted" can feel a bit undermined by postings like this one
https://www.commitasync.com/jobs/mid-software-engineerjava-i...
and this one
https://www.commitasync.com/jobs/senior-software-engineer-ob...
where actual salaries are much lower than the stated ones, but I have a feeling that whoever posted the job assumed PLN (Polish) and SEK (Swedish) currencies, respectively, which would seem reasonable.
Given that you've just launched, if these details are polished out in the near future, I'm sure we could all forgive a little "fake it 'till you make it" being thrown in the mix.
All in all, well done.
I've created it from a pain point I've experienced myself: it's hard to find $100K+ fully remote dev positions when you're outside the US.
For the point with the actual salaries being much lower than the stated ones, you're right it's because the job assumed local currencies -> I've put it down on my todo list to fix it!
Again, thanks for taking the time to share your feedback I really appreciate it.
While I can get using the EU flag, which is also the Council of Europe flag, for Europe, it really makes it unclear whether the jobs listed as "Europe" are EU only (or maybe EEA?), all of Europe, and which countries are included... It'd be good to make that clearer. Somehow. Europe is difficult.
E.g. one job marked as Europe lists UK as a location they have staff, while another lists EU specifically in location.
Also: Currencies matter. While I'd happily work for a US (or EU) company, and have before, my salary expectations would be much higher if the salary is *actually denominated in USD (which I have done once), because of the currency risk I'd incur... As a shortcut while launching it's fine, but if you're going to grow this outside the US you'll need for people to be able to know what currencies are "on offer".
For similar reasons, you'd also want it to be clear to people which country they'd be employed "from". A lot of places it'll complicate things if the entity you're hired by does not have a local company for you to formally sign an employment contract with, so I'd want to know. E.g. if I'm going to sign up with a US company (I'm available; see profile) I'd generally just as well contract via my limited company instead as being hired by one gives me few benefits over just contracting, while conversely being hired by a UK company gives me (eventually, anyway) assorted legal protections that make it preferable to a contract unless the contract rate is much higher than the salary.
I understand your frustration about the Europe flag, it can be a bit vague. I'll improve it as I've written it down too.
I'll have to think about the country of employment. I'm going to look if that's easy to implement, maybe for some jobs that will be harder but in any case, if I can provide this information that can be useful.
It's a rough pill to swallow, but the rise of remote work is inevitably going to pull things down to a "national median" somewhere in this area. There will always be the coastal tech hubs where top tier folks can go to make real salaries. But for the most part we (in the US) are going to be lumped together and forced to accept something in the range of 2x the average income instead of 3-4x, similar to how things are in Europe. Particularly when you consider the amount of LatAm/Canadian nearshoring going on right now, and the absolute glut of junior/midlevel devs on the market.
The skills just aren’t there. I run interviews and struggle to find anyone, anywhere, that can actually program. English proficiency is also hard to come by. This wouldn’t be an issue in most of Canada, but I’ve yet to see a Canadian remote applicant.
Engineers are not really commodities. The right engineer can really push your business forward and become a powerful asset. The wrong one can set you back years while your competitors surpass you. As long as there’s companies out there who want the best, the best will command higher salaries.
If you manage to hire a great engineer for a cheap price, inevitably they will have no loyalty and leave your company for a higher offer. Thus losing you money in the long term and harming your business. A remote worker can do this easily.
If you want cheap, the unethical thing to do is hire local talent that doesn’t enjoy remote work and can’t move easily. You entrap them into the job and pay them less.
There are _plenty_ of jobs in the range I'm looking for. This site doesn't allow me to find them. That's all.
Remote has nothing to do with it.
I have applied to numerous companies and get what look like mostly automatic rejections despite many years of experience, shipping products, research, etc. I also have experienced friends who say hiring is very slow and cold right now, it's not just me. Do you use any sort of automation?
Just a caveat regarding Latitude AI, one of the listed companies.
When I applied about 12 months ago, I learned they wouldn't hire residents of some U.S. states.
I'm assuming it's because there weren't enough potential employees to justify the cost of handling that state's employer responsibilities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compensation_transparency
>California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New York, Nevada, Rhode Island, and Washington have passed compensation transparency laws as of 2023. Some US cities also have compensation transparency laws, including New York City.
One workaround is to use a “PEO”, or “co-employment” provider, to be the employer of record and handle HR, insurance, payroll, etc. Though it can feel like a rather weird arrangement when employees don’t technically work for the company they think they do.
1. Debounce!
2. Use WebSockets to minimize unnecessary round trips
3. Cache previous results and use them when the input is a superstring of a previous input (e.g. results for "Android mobile dev" will always be a subset of the results for "mobile dev")
Hard to trust the vetting with inaccuracies of this scale.
I'm not making a big deal on 94k vs 100k, but the two points combined makes me (a casual observer) a bit confused on what is being vetted here.
"no estimates" because in a lot of job boards, when they don't have the salaries for the job posts, they estimate it based on the median salary of the position. I only advertise jobs with salaries, I don't guess them. Do you have a better wording to illustrate this aspect of "no estimates"?
Also, would you prefer having less jobs shown, but with a minimum $100k salary if it's a range?
Regarding the vetted aspect, it's related to the fact some companies aren't actively recruiting (you can read more in the article linked in the About page of the website).
As I work on this as a new dad after my full-time job, some little bugs are bound to happen while I improve it one commit at a time. Rest assured, every feedback is taken into account.
Can anyone tell me whether they think $100k+ salaries are more or less common over there compared to 2021? My first job out of college with Epic was around $90k at the finish, but I was coming in fresh from electrical engineering, I wasn't a CS major. I plan to head back with the Georgia Tech master's in comp sci, and I'm pretty sure I could crush any coding interviews that got thrown my way even now given a few weeks to revisit my old Neetcode 150 Anki card deck. The only thing which might hold me back is the languages I like on the job the most are painfully boring (Python, Javascript, good old fashioned SQL, Bash to shore up the organized-electron supply chain).
For the other smaller but still public companies you need to be staff+ to hit that, and even then no guarantees