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qzw · 2 years ago
3 pallets of toilet paper on the way. Just kidding, I already installed bidets during Covid.

In all seriousness, even if we get into a pandemic again, unless we see mortality rates in the double digits, I doubt the world would go into prolonged lockdowns again.

SketchySeaBeast · 2 years ago
I would hope that the majority learned that hygiene and masking are effective enough for us to continue to live our lives, but I doubt it.
dist-epoch · 2 years ago
The good news is that masks and hand sanitizers are much more effective against the flu, as seen in the pandemic when it virtually disappeared.
huytersd · 2 years ago
You won’t want to live your life normally if there is a 60% mortality rate airborne virus around.
TomSwirly · 2 years ago
There are over a million dead in the United States for whom your statement is not true.
outworlder · 2 years ago
> I doubt the world would go into prolonged lockdowns again.

Most of the world didn't go into any lockdowns. Sure, most gatherings were banned and places like restaurants couldn't have people dining in. But most people could go outside and do almost anything they wanted, provided they didn't gather in crowds.

The lockdowns like China enforced where people had their doors barred and could only leave once a week for groceries (or had groceries delivered by the government) were an outlier.

If we ever see mortality rates in the double digits, expect real lockdowns.

mike_hearn · 2 years ago
Most countries implemented policies they called "lockdowns" so whatever personal definition you're using isn't very helpful. Certainly, being able to go outside was seen as a regrettable bug and not a feature in many places. For example, the UK police notoriously used drones to find couples sitting on park benches. Where I live I was forbidden from leaving my apartment for a couple of weeks when my wife got COVID, for any reason except purchasing groceries. So that was definitely a China-style lockdown.

> If we ever see mortality rates in the double digits, expect real lockdowns.

We'll see them because our ruling classes are psychologically and politically unable to push back on corrupt academics, not because they work. Lockdowns had no effect on COVID because respiratory viruses are able to spread long distances on air currents, but lockdown policy assumes they can't.

1oooqooq · 2 years ago
thank God for the essential workers risking their lives for 6 bucks an hour. bless their hearts

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dist-epoch · 2 years ago
This exact virus (H5N1) has at least 15-30% mortality. The exact number is really hard to know, because there have been too few cases, but it's certain to be at least 20 times as deadly as SARS-CoV-2.
throwup238 · 2 years ago
No, that's not certain at all. The total number of confirmed human cases in the world is under a thousand [1] in 20 years. That's not enough data to get any kind of mortality statistic for an influenza variant.

Chances are >99% of cases are so mild they were never tested. It's pretty surprising this one was detected at all. It's only the second confirmed case in the US despite tons of confirmed animal cases in poultry and migratory birds.

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/flu/avianflu/chart-epi-curve-ah5n1.html

unethical_ban · 2 years ago
Lockdowns make sense if emergency rooms cannot keep up with the emergency rate. Other than that*, we'll see a lot of people going back to WFH on a temp basis and lots of masks and hand sanitizer.
kurthr · 2 years ago
Yeah, this is why lockdowns were started. The ER was full of sick people and, if you were in a car wreck or had a heart attack, you would likely die from lack of beds. Go back and look and the ER/ICU/All-Bed occupancy rates were >95% over most of the country for months.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8852235/

This is what it looked like in Dec 2020: https://www.statista.com/chart/23746/icu-bed-occupancy-rates...

michaelmrose · 2 years ago
9% mortality (with treatment) with flu like transmission rates would quickly destroy the functionality of our medical system.

Soon new patients would live or die with no medical care and death rate for the diseases and anyone who is at risk of dying wo care would skyrocket.

50M people would ultimately die in the US alone everything would collapse and people would lock down of their own accord.

znpy · 2 years ago
As an European… sigh, bidets are not a replacement for toilet paper…

> unless we see mortality rates in the double digits, I doubt the world would go into prolonged lockdowns again.

You should have learned from the last pandemic that going in a lockdown is the prevention measure to avoid mortality rate in the double digits…

jerlam · 2 years ago
Likely referring to the Japanese-style bidet, aka washlet, which have a built-in dryer so zero toilet paper is required. But even a cheap one without a dryer will drastically reduce the amount of toilet paper required.
015a · 2 years ago
> going in a lockdown is the prevention measure to avoid mortality rate in the double digits…

Huh? Mortality rate is the mortality rate, its independent of a lockdown; unless more vulnerable people are "locking down" at rates different than less vulnerable ones, but at that point we're not talking about a "lockdown".

The purpose of the COVID lockdown wasn't to suppress the mortality rate; it was to suppress the total infected/mortality.

flandish · 2 years ago
> again

We are still “in” one, in all seriousness.

bryanlarsen · 2 years ago
Especially if Texas is ground zero.
huytersd · 2 years ago
This flu has a 60% mortality rate. If it becomes airborne you can bet there will be lockdowns.
dist-epoch · 2 years ago
Martial law, not lockdowns.
1letterunixname · 2 years ago
This is just 1 of the problems with animal ag.

- Pandemics

- Antibiotic resistance (The sheer stupidity of using the same antibiotics we depend on to stay alive just to make animals grow faster and be more profitable.)

- Climate change (1/6th of all emissions)

- Soil, air, water pollution

- Deforestation

- Higher food prices

- Less net food available

kube-system · 2 years ago
> The illness is mild and the worker is expected to recover

How do cases like this ever get diagnosed? IME the standard of care for mild respiratory illness in the US tends to be basic symptom management, or maybe a standard diagnostic panel to determine whether to prescribe antibiotics. How does someone with mild symptoms get tested for a rare virus in the first place?

shawabawa3 · 2 years ago
Seems it was diagnosed in cattle and this was a dairy worker, so probably everyone working in contact with infected cattle are tested
throwup238 · 2 years ago
From the CDC press release:

> CDC is working with state health departments to continue to monitor workers who may have been in contact with infected or potentially infected birds/animals and test those people who develop symptoms. [1]

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/p0401-avian-flu.html

0cf8612b2e1e · 2 years ago
Just started playing Talos Principle 2 and cross species infections is really on my mind.

For those who enjoyed Portal, it is a nice first person puzzler. Completely different mechanics. I do not think it required much (any?) high precision/twitch actions. Not finished, but I think I am preferring original Talos Principle vs Two, because there were not so many annoying NPCs in the first.

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angryasian · 2 years ago
Any status of the human that caught the "Texas Flu"

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