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jetrink · 2 years ago
Some additional context: the editor of the manual was Sam Leffler, who was a coworker of Lasseter at Lucasfilm at the time.

> The later, more popular versions of the BSD Daemon were drawn by animation director John Lasseter beginning with an early greyscale drawing on the cover of the Unix System Manager's Manual published in 1984 by USENIX for 4.2BSD.[7] Its author/editor Sam Leffler (who had been a technical staff member at CSRG) and Lasseter were both employees of Lucasfilm at the time. About four years after this Lasseter drew his widely known take on the BSD Daemon for the cover of McKusick's co-authored 1988 book, The Design and Implementation of the 4.3BSD Operating System.[8] Lasseter drew a somewhat lesser-known running BSD Daemon for the 4.4BSD version of the book in 1994.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_Daemon

divbzero · 2 years ago
Is there a connection between Sam Leffler the BSD contributor at Lucasfilm/Pixar and BSD as the basis for NeXTSTEP/OS X at NeXT/Apple?

As far as I can tell, there is no direct connection. Sam Leffler contributed most to the 4.1BSD and 4.2BSD while at Berkeley [1], while NeXTSTEP was based on Mach which was based on 4.2BSD and developed by Richard Rashid and Avie Tevanian at Carnegie Mellon [2].

Perhaps the indirect connection is that, before Linux, BSD was the natural choice for an open-source UNIX derivative, and Steve Jobs had an instinct for seeking out the leading edges of computing at the time.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_J._Leffler

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_(kernel)#Development

toast0 · 2 years ago
I'd say before the UNIX lawsuit[1] of April 1992, BSD was the natural choice for a UNIX derivative . This lawsuit delayed the release of 4.4BSD, and since Linux was from scratch, it had no cloud of legal uncertainty.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX_System_Laboratories%2C_In....

textadventure · 2 years ago
Well, Steve Jobs did buy Pixar from Lucas.
vanderZwan · 2 years ago
> The BSD Daemon was first drawn in 1976 by comic artist Phil Foglio. Developer Mike O'Brien, who was working as a bonded locksmith at the time, opened a wall safe in Foglio's Chicago apartment after a roommate had "split town" without leaving the combination. In return Foglio agreed to draw T-shirt artwork for O'Brien, who gave him some Polaroid snaps of a PDP-11 system running UNIX along with some notions about visual puns having to do with pipes, demons/daemons, forks, a "bit bucket" named /dev/null, etc.[3] Foglio's drawing showed four happy little red daemon characters carrying tridents and climbing about on (or falling off of) water pipes in front of a caricature of a PDP-11 and was used for the first national UNIX meeting in the US (which was held in Urbana, Illinois).

Wow, Phil Foglio as well? The origin story gets even more interesting. Here is a page that features the original artwork: http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/shirts/usenix.html

djmips · 2 years ago
Do you know where to find the lesser known running version mentioned in this excerpt?
gen3 · 2 years ago
Slightly different but OpenBSD does a good job of finding artists, for example the artwork for 6.5 and 6.6 was drawn by Natasha Allegri of Adventure Time and Bee and PuppyCat

https://www.openbsd.org/66.html

brynet · 2 years ago
They also designed probably the best t-shirt art for an OS release, no longer available, sadly.

https://www.openbsd.org/tshirts.html#47

https://twitter.com/natazilla/status/1187896621045956608

jimmyjazz14 · 2 years ago
Oh man I was just thinking that would make an awesome t-shirt, wish it was still available.

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Decabytes · 2 years ago
I keep hearing more and more about OpenBSD. Lots of people including John Carmack, browse the source code and have nothing but good things to say about it. It's made me very curious to look at it myself
dilippkumar · 2 years ago
I run OpenBSD on my laptop. I love it, but I would recommend that beginners read some warnings on the label.

First, you will not have bluetooth. Second, it is slow in ways that will matter. As in, you will feel it, but not be annoyed by it (Especially with a web browser). Third, KDE plasma support is a work in progress (read: most people do not get KDE plasma on an OpenBSD installation today, although it won't stay like this forever).

With these disclaimers out of the way, I can heartily encourage it. I love having an operating system that I can trust. Things work, things are well doccumented and things are very very clean.

smoldesu · 2 years ago
Shoutout to Bee and Puppycat as well, of which the entire first season is freely available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2DcNkn8HAwQLcXTiDB87...
adzm · 2 years ago
Note that this is very different than the first season on Netflix fwiw. Both are great though!
jimmyjazz14 · 2 years ago
Man that's some pretty badass BSD artwork too.
brynet · 2 years ago
jdironman · 2 years ago
why is the latest release seemingly the only one without a release "song"?
not2b · 2 years ago
And Debian releases are named for Toy Story characters.
rootbear · 2 years ago
Bruce Perens, a major figure in Debian Linux, worked at Pixar for years. He was my officemate for a while when I was there in the late 90s.
i386 · 2 years ago
I had the opportunity to visit Pixars office at Emeryville 20 years ago. Loved the garden shed offices!
dylan604 · 2 years ago
The only release I knew by name was Woody, but for others curious, here's a page with the releases names listed:

https://www.debian.org/releases/

I love the homages/easter eggs in the *nix world

djmips · 2 years ago
Wheezy stuck in my mind. Good to finally know how it came to be! Funny that Wheezy is a penguin!
29athrowaway · 2 years ago
And Debian itself is a combination of Deb and Ian, Deb being Ian's partner at the time.

Deb broke up with Ian and then Ian had a tragic end. It is a name surrounded by tragedy.

gofreddygo · 2 years ago
Jeez, I never could draw the connection between those Debian names and Toy Story characters. Till now. Thank you. TIL!
geerlingguy · 2 years ago
Now we're getting more tangential, but for years, Ansible releases were named for Van Halen songs (see old Changelog here: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/v1.8.4/CHANGELOG.md)
jhbadger · 2 years ago
And R releases are named after (often obscure) quotes from the comic strip Peanuts (current release "Eggshell Igloo")
paledot · 2 years ago
Sid, the unstable build, is named for the child antagonist in Toy Story.
abetusk · 2 years ago
Not really related but the artist behind the Go(lang) mascot is Renee French [0] who also did Grit Bath [1]. She happens to be married to Rob Pike, so I assume that had something to do with it.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_French

[1] https://www.abebooks.com/comics/GRIT-BATH-Nos-1-3-French-Ren...

bgmeister · 2 years ago
She also created Glenda the Plan 9 Bunny: https://9p.io/plan9/glenda.html
philwelch · 2 years ago
I always thought that gopher had a weird creepy vibe, so I guess I’m not surprised at the artist’s other work.
polynomial · 2 years ago
"Lassetter wasn’t the first to draw this, but his version became the most popular." (FTA)
jasonjayr · 2 years ago
Phil Foglio (Girl Genius, Buck GoDot, etc) had drawn the first version prior to Lasseter's
threetonesun · 2 years ago
And some great card art from the "let's not take this too seriously" era of Magic the Gathering.
jzb · 2 years ago
Wow, really? That's amazing. I wonder if Foglio was ever actually a BSD user.

I have a soft spot in my heart for Foglio's early work, like "What's New with Phil & Dixie" from Dragon magazine and his adaptation of Myth Adventures. I'm particularly fond of The Winslow[1]. Sadly, nobody I know has ever read more than a few Phil & Dixie cartoons and I just get weird looks if I talk about The Winslow.

[1] https://comicvine.gamespot.com/winslow/4005-31428/

inopinatus · 2 years ago
Greg Lehey records some relevant history of the daemon logo prior to Lasseter's cover (along with a classic daemon t-shirt story) at http://www.lemis.com/grog/whyadaemon.html.
kderbyma · 2 years ago
Anyone else think about the connection between OSX, Jobs, Pixar, etc....seems like the elite of the tech revolution all were neighbours as usual with industry control
anthk · 2 years ago
So much control that you could get industry quality level OSes for free or by the cost of the CD's:

-FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, GNU/Linux with slackware CD's...

This is like getting avionics industry manuals and hardware for free and with a press of a button you could get a self-assembled UFO with an antigravity field by half the price of a car.

i386 · 2 years ago
There was a center of excellence and a lot of innovation by a relatively small industry at the time.
orenlindsey · 2 years ago
Here's the book with the John Lassetter cover if anyone wants it: https://www.amazon.com/Design-Implementation-UNIX-Operating-...

There's a "Used - Good" quality one for $4.

jelder · 2 years ago
OP here. If any historians would like to see details from any other parts of this set, just ask.