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textadventure commented on A high schooler writes about AI tools in the classroom   theatlantic.com/technolog... · Posted by u/dougb5
igor47 · 4 months ago
The point of publishing it seems to me to be "kids in classrooms also think this is a problem". The subject matter is often talked about in the upper echelons and among adults, it's good to see a kid's prospective. It's equivalent to an essay by a kid saying they also struggle with the effects of social media -- it creates a broader consensus environment, helping to build buy in for a shared paradigm
textadventure · 4 months ago
Right, except what I'm saying is that the perspective of a this A+ kind of student is off-putting and not contributing to the discussion in any meaningful way.

What I'm saying is precisely that the take of a more genuine, less pretentious kid, would be far more insightful.

It's a weak editorial choice.

textadventure commented on A high schooler writes about AI tools in the classroom   theatlantic.com/technolog... · Posted by u/dougb5
add-sub-mul-div · 4 months ago
If you're judging without even knowing the content of the hypothetical alternative then is the difference just that one premise offends you while the other supports you?
textadventure · 4 months ago
Huh? I'm questioning the point of this pretentious article, that's all.
textadventure commented on A high schooler writes about AI tools in the classroom   theatlantic.com/technolog... · Posted by u/dougb5
igor47 · 4 months ago
Struggling to understand what you're saying but it sounds like you're making two points:

* We should dismiss the concerns in TFA because the author is... A good and conscientious student? Who is both unpopular and also the class president?

* The students who are outsourcing their thinking, or at least their work, to LLMs, have good reasons for this and the reasons are not addressed in the piece

The first point is at best a pure ad hominem and at worst a full blown assault on conscientiousness and actually doing the work. I think the class president and good student is a better authority than the cheater. I'm very disturbed by the recent trend on HN and the wider world to justify any shortcut taken for personal advancement. We need people to value substance, not just image...

The second point is irrelevant -- we don't have do both-sideism in every piece. But also even if they do have good reasons to cheat, this creates an instant race to the bottom where now everyone must cheat. This is why they do doping checks in professional sports, except this is much higher stakes

textadventure · 4 months ago
I'm wondering why is this being published in the first place. It's not an interesting or illuminating perspective, it's a pretentious student telling us nothing new.

I gave no opinions on AI, yet I do think it's very much a problem. This article presents neither good ideas to tackle it, nor an insightful perspective on the problem.

textadventure commented on A high schooler writes about AI tools in the classroom   theatlantic.com/technolog... · Posted by u/dougb5
textadventure · 4 months ago
ANY real kid that is unpretentious would do. A "I use AI to cheat at school" article would be far more interesting that this "Oh my God, my peers are hopeless but not me" piece.
textadventure commented on A high schooler writes about AI tools in the classroom   theatlantic.com/technolog... · Posted by u/dougb5
textadventure · 4 months ago
This take from a Hermione-type High School senior shed next to zero new light on the subject. Yes, we know AI is redefining school and jobs and daily life. The perspective of an obnoxious A+ type student isn't helping, especially because you kind of can read between the lines that she isn't friends with these kids using AI, which would give her a deeper perspective of why and how they are using AI.

Is this what The Atlantic has come down to, publishing a complain-y piece by the class president?

EDIT: For anyone struggling with my criticism of the article, I very much agree that there is a problem of AI in education. Her suggestion which is "maybe more oral exams and less essays?" I'm sure has never been considered by teachers around the world rolls eyes.

As for how to tackle this, I think the only solution is accept the fact that AI is going nowhere and integrate it into the class. Show kids in the class how to use AI properly, compare what different AI models say, and compare what they say to what scholars and authors have written, to what kids in the past have written in their essays.

You don't have to fight AI to instill critical thinking in kids. You can embrace it to teach them its limitations.

textadventure commented on Libre – An anonymous social experiment without likes, followers, or ads   libreantisocial.com... · Posted by u/rododecba
ranger_danger · 4 months ago
I highly suggest the Dark Reader extension.
textadventure · 4 months ago
As some who loves dark mode, I hate that extension. I get the appeal of forcing every website to be dark mode, but that ends up breaking half of them or just making them look like trash. People need to custom design their dark modes for whatever each design is.

If you don't care about breaking design and stuff looking the way its supposed to, I guess the extension is fine but I rather use something like Stylus where you can use people's custom designed stylesheets for most known sites.

textadventure commented on Mobygratis – Free Moby music to empower your creative projects   mobygratis.com/... · Posted by u/thm
textadventure · 8 months ago
I think like 99% of people in comments are missing the fact that Moby first launched this project 20 years ago when not even Youtube was a thing.
textadventure commented on Mobygratis – Free Moby music to empower your creative projects   mobygratis.com/... · Posted by u/thm
anotherlab · 8 months ago
Moby licensed every song from "Play" for commercial use. The exposure made "Play" a huge hit for him. This is just a variation of that.

This is an attempt to grab a slice of the pie before AI-generated music kills the market for session musicians. His terms of use are odd, but that's his choice.

textadventure · 8 months ago
Moby launched this site TWENTY YEARS AGO, before YouTube even existed.

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