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kogus · 3 years ago
This reminds me of my own wacky idea for a line of fitness products: ordinary everyday items that are normal in every way except that they are intentionally designed to be physically challenging to use.

For example, doors that require a lot of force to open, keyboards with 1lb resistance springs, remote controls that weigh several kilograms, etc. Since many people have trouble going to the gym, it would be a way to introduce weight training in a way that was both unobtrusive and unavoidable.

Just one of those things that has been bouncing around in my head for years now. I think riding this bike would definitely qualify as weight training :)

adrianmonk · 3 years ago
This is similar to my business plan where I start a combo moving company / personal training service and charge people to move other people's furniture. Double profit!
acomjean · 3 years ago
Its not quite the same but one of the Moving Companies around boston has a rowing club.

https://www.gentlegiantrowing.org/sponsor

"and approach to moving as a sport, requiring dedication and teamwork. Many Gentle Giant employees are current or former athletes from a wide variety of sports and competitive backgrounds. Current and former employees include both Olympic, collegiate and club rowers."

phito · 3 years ago
fredley · 3 years ago
Have you heard of Good Gym in the UK?

https://www.goodgym.org/

sgtnoodle · 3 years ago
Nathan Fielder already tried it. Like all of his business ideas, it was wildly successful.
Swenrekcah · 3 years ago
We think alike! I would have started that company years ago if not for the threat of the inevitable lawsuit when a client drops a grand piano on someone’s head.
tomjakubowski · 3 years ago
Jack Garbarino beat you to it. Read The Movement; there's a copy on my shelf.
ihaveajob · 3 years ago
It reminds me of "u-pick" farms. Less labor, higher prices. The only constraint is that they have to be somewhere easy to reach.
sandworm101 · 3 years ago
Except that moving boxes and furniture doesnt promote fitness. Most of your time will be sitting in a truck. Then it will be repetitive motions with moderate weights. It would be more akin to life as a fedex driver than a modern workout.
IshKebab · 3 years ago
I've definitely seen deliveroo cyclists doing it for the fitness.
trhway · 3 years ago
Such scheme is somewhat popular in agriculture where city dwellers come to work on a farm and are paying for the experience.
hoseja · 3 years ago
Moving furniture isn't what one would call "healthy exercise".
squidgyhead · 3 years ago
I have the same plan! We can team up!
agumonkey · 3 years ago
Holy .. I wanted to do just that.
mabbo · 3 years ago
You're thinking too small, friend.

Build a space station with gravity via rotation. Then spin it up to 150% of normal gravity. Now everything is 50% heavier, yourself included!

dcminter · 3 years ago
You don't even need to be in space if you want to make things heavier. As always the great David Jones (Daedalus) had this idea first in his New Scientist column (16th Feb 1968), and it's included in the compendium "The inventions of Daedalus"
littlestymaar · 3 years ago
Strong Goku vibe.
nicbou · 3 years ago
I wish that VC wasted money on you instead of the same boring mobility startups.
animatedb · 3 years ago
You are thinking much too small, friend. Spin the earth faster and we can finally get rid of leap seconds.
squarefoot · 3 years ago
It's much easier to get married, so you'll have the weekly task of going to the store by foot and bring back bagfuls of groceries, and possibly two packs of bottled water... then return there because you forgot two bags of cat's litter:)

More seriously, ages ago I wondered about a way to generate power by making sort of a (very compact) exoskeleton-like contraption for each limb articulation, so walking or using arms would activate some generators. Mechanical construction would be quite a challenge, however if built in a very compact wearable way it could become a thing: sensors for body parameters could self power, the phone in a pocket equipped with a inductive charger would charge while running, etc.

mellavora · 3 years ago
> so you'll have the weekly task of going to the store by foot and bring back bagfuls of groceries, and possibly two packs of bottled water... then return there because you forgot two bags of cat's litter:)

it's the "by foot" part where this may not work as you intended.

klyrs · 3 years ago
I once met a guy on a bike ride who trained with a kids trailer loaded down with bricks. He claimed that it was more time-efficient way to train, and on race days, his bike felt like it was made of helium. My only concerns are wear&tear on knees, and the risk of a crash, getting smashed by a 200lb trailer doesn't sound fun.
nradov · 3 years ago
The Airhub resistance trainer is a safer option. It can selectively apply magnetic resistance (drag) in order to make training rides harder. But when switched off the bike rides like normal, and there are no extra safety risks.

https://airhub.com.au/

Wear on the knees is more an issue of proper bike fit and pedaling technique. If you want to get fit as a cyclist then you have to put in some high wattage training rides. Whether the resistance comes from a heavy trailer or a steep hill or whatever makes no difference to the knee injury risk.

worthless-trash · 3 years ago
I know a similar story retold by yellow-jacket wearing cofee drinkers of a man who trains on a heavy mountain bike weighed down with offroad equipment and spares. The humm of his fat mountain bike tyres on the road approaching inspires ire and jelousy.

He wins the local triathlons quite regularly.

agumonkey · 3 years ago
It would be a cosmic irony, since humans have been trying to make things "easier" since at least 4000 years.

I have another idea, make a lot of crank generators so that biochemical energy gets converted into electricity. I know you won't power your kettle nor your telsa but considering people 1) pay for exercise [0] 2) pay to power the devices to exercise .. I think it's due time.

[0] gym club managed to market gravity (and social context, but mostly gravity).

marcodiego · 3 years ago
> keyboards with 1lb resistance springs

This may be a good recipe for tendinitis.

tinalumfoil · 3 years ago
Everything here sounds like a recipe for injury. When you're lifting heavy things you should be focused on (correctly) lifting the heavy thing. If you turn the oven door into a deadlift you're going to forget one day and throw out your back.
avrionov · 3 years ago
hetspookjee · 3 years ago
For some reason the feeling of getting exhausted on an ultralight racing bike feels much easier on the mind than getting exhausted on a regular bike with a flat tire. Similar with swimming with slick gear versus swimming with long shorts and a shirt.
jjcm · 3 years ago
There's something to be said about overloading the effort required though. We used to train endurance by dragging a tire behind us in the water. When it came to race day, everything would feel 10x easier.
walrus01 · 3 years ago
> This reminds me of my own wacky idea for a line of fitness products: ordinary everyday items that are normal in every way except that they are intentionally designed to be physically challenging to use.

Not exactly an everyday item, but people who want to train for "tactical" things with ballistic armored vests, either because they work for a PMC or are actually in the military, can buy steel plates to put in a plate carrier which exactly match the dimensions of an expensive ($2000+) ceramic plate set, for weight and balance purposes and train with those.

skocznymroczny · 3 years ago
> keyboards with 1lb resistance springs

I'm sure there would be mech keyboard enthusiasts who would find the actuation force too light on those

oarabbus_ · 3 years ago
Not exactly the same, but this reminded me of the following excellent design gallery: https://www.theuncomfortable.com/
trhway · 3 years ago
Famous Russian wrestler a century ago walked with a cane 16 kg weight.

For simple mortals like me - while hiking I've been using the Nordic poles with 8 inches springed amortization which naturally works up your upper body.

323 · 3 years ago
> remote controls that weigh several kilograms

That would require either very expensive metals, or a giant remote control.

But something like this is already done - a lot of people use leg weights as an extra in the gym.

jffry · 3 years ago
1kg of lead is like 90mL. I just measured my quite svelte TV remote at 22cm x 2cm x 5cm = 220mL. I'm sure you could easily fit 1.5 kilos of lead in there, and with a slightly thicker "A/V receiver" style remote we could easily make that 3-4kg
epalm · 3 years ago
Along the same lines, I’ve wondered why gyms don’t hook up all their weight machines up to a big generator. Gym members would be paying the gym to reduce the gym’s electric bill.
jamal-kumar · 3 years ago
Kind of the extremely radical opposite to the reasoning behind accessibility, then? Ever have someone in a wheelchair get mad at you?
na85 · 3 years ago
Good luck catching me on their intentionally-hard-to-push chair.

Think of the profits from thiw move fast and break things approach! Always be hustling.

LoveMortuus · 3 years ago
What about just wearing a weighted vest?

Another interesting idea I've had many many years ago: Skies that have enough buoyancy to be able to float on the sea while a person is standing on them. Do that you ski across the sea. Although the movement would be closer to rollerblades, due to lack of hills.

jaredhallen · 3 years ago
What you're describing would be called "skate skiing" on snow, and it's absolutely a thing. Not pooh poohing the idea, but imagine the fun of a loss of balance on the open sea. It'd make a waterski crash look downright convenient.
samatman · 3 years ago
The door idea is a safety issue, but there's a market for a gag-gift remote control holder that's a barbell, for sure. Whether it helps anyone is an open question, but it hits the sweet spot for twee Americana gas station stuff.
6t6t6t6 · 3 years ago
Or just have kids.

I am picking up a 16kg and a 12kg masses several times a day, and I am sure that this keeps me in shape. Basically, because I didn't have time to go to the gym in the last five years.

parentheses · 3 years ago
It seems like anyone who’s a lazy TV watching bum would get RSIs from their remote control. I know my Apple TV remote does this to me when I use the integrated touchpad.
grishka · 3 years ago
> doors that require a lot of force to open

These already exist! Especially when a door opens outward and it's windy outside and the wind is pushing against it.

mellavora · 3 years ago
Google "rucking"

Basically you put some bricks or weights into your backpack and take a walk.

And yes, it is a thing.

nnoitra · 3 years ago
This has got to be the dumbest idea that I have ever heard of.
maxerickson · 3 years ago
Have you heard about fork-axe?
asasidh · 3 years ago
they call it functional training
tromp · 3 years ago
My favorite part of this project has got to be the helmet. For one, because it's pure concrete, with no metal frame inside it like the other parts. And second, because it best illustrates the utility of the project in that a concrete helmet is literally worse than useless.
wildmanx · 3 years ago
> a concrete helmet is literally worse than useless.

Is it? It would still absorb energy upon impact. Which, in contrast to popular belief about bike helmets, is its main function. Yes, ordinary bike helmets will also just break. But in doing so, they absorb energy which then won't be absorbed by your skull.

There is no point in a perfectly stiff helmet. It would just transfer the energy right through and you'd crash your skull into the helmet, which doesn't help.

WMaking · 3 years ago
It may not be as much of a factor at bicycle speeds, but I've read that heavy helmets can dramatically increase whiplash in things like motorsport. The increased mass on your head means higher forces trying to rip it off. Obviously the other benefits of real helmets outweigh that issue, but I'd imagine a concrete helmet with very poor shock absorption and very high mass would not fair so well.
tromp · 3 years ago
Concrete is pretty stiff. But mostly, wearing such a helmet will make it much harder to move your head around to scan your surroundings, increasing the chance of accidents.
femto · 3 years ago
Next challenge: the lightest concrete bike.

Concrete canoes are a thing civil engineers make for fun [1]. Weight can come in at under 10kg [2]. That's about half the weight of a typical canoe [3].

On that basis, one might be able to build a concrete bike that is lighter than a typical bike?

[1] https://www.asce.org/communities/student-members/conferences...

[2] https://www.concrete.org/Portals/0/Files/PDF/20-1stPlace-Kon...

[3] https://paddlecamp.com/how-much-does-a-canoe-weigh/

brk · 3 years ago
In the late 70's ferro-cement sailboats were a thing. I watched one get built at the marina where we kept our boat at the time. It's mentioned here [0], the Sandpiper.

[0] https://books.google.com/books?id=COilQT7iWTgC&pg=PP436&lpg=...

ljf · 3 years ago
My friends live in a 80s cement boat, and have done since they built it. Was brilliant but now uninsurable, and they are stuck unable to move it and worrying about every stormy day. That said, for over 20 years it was great, but once water gets in the cracks...
derac · 3 years ago
The level of maker youtube projects has been going off the charts.

Some examples from less well-known creators:

Drunk Mel Gibson arrest diorama https://youtu.be/2UoHb0ziMDA

Knife throwing machine https://youtu.be/-BKEZbYOMpI

3d printed harmonic drive https://youtu.be/Emvo3bLT-Z4

donjoe · 3 years ago
The knife throwing machine reminds me a lot of the slingshot channel:

https://youtube.com/c/Slingshotchannel

NCC1701DEngage · 3 years ago
Have you seen NightHawkInLight:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFtc3XdXgLFwhlDajMGK69w

LaserSaber:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIKzUKkh7XtnSYPW0AJb-9w

or StyroPyro:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJYJgj7rzsn0vdR7fkgjuIA

They have similarity to the Quint BUILDs channel that the knife throwing machine video came from. They all do some pretty crazy builds.

aidenn0 · 3 years ago
Let me show you its features!
mkoryak · 3 years ago
when I lived in JP (a part of Boston) I made my commuter bike "unstealable" by taping it and putting joint compound all over the frame. The thing was ugly as sin and looked at lot like this bike.

I could leave it locked with one of those cheap combination cable locks, and no one ever took it.

krasin · 3 years ago
Do you happen to have photos of the bike?
blamazon · 3 years ago
I do this with extension cords, bit of electrical tape and most potential yoinkers will think twice about yoinking.
djmips · 3 years ago
I do this to my own body - bits of electrical tape - I am virtually un-kidnap-able now.
elicash · 3 years ago
I like this. But alternatively, couldn't that make it look abandoned and possibly have the opposite effect?
mkoryak · 3 years ago
It didn't look abandoned, it looked ugly as shit, but definitely not abandoned.

Sadly I can't find pics. It was not a bike that photographed well.

c2h5oh · 3 years ago
I strongly suspect that the steel reinforcement used in the frame could have acted as a rigid enough frame without the concrete
epakai · 3 years ago
It sort of does. You can see the fork got damaged mid-span in some of the riding shots. Still there isn't enough strength in places like the fork ends or crown without the concrete.
amelius · 3 years ago
I strongly suspect they could just as well have used a normal bike and cast the concrete around it (which they did for some parts) ...
wolpoli · 3 years ago
I suspect that the concrete will crack if it is just molded to the frame itself. Concrete cracks easily without support.

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ejb999 · 3 years ago
correct, it is a steel framed bike, covered with concrete - not a concrete bike.
tiborsaas · 3 years ago
Since most practical uses of concrete uses some kind of reinforcement this is still a concrete bike.
ant6n · 3 years ago
It’s steel reinforced concrete. That’s how houses out of concrete are built as well.

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z9znz · 3 years ago
Oh there’s a lot of fun concepts to muse about. But one is brakes.

That aside, at least it wouldn’t get stolen in Amsterdam.

Which reminds me of something a friend did. He lived in a neighborhood where anything visible would be stolen. So he took an old computer tower case and filled it with concrete. Then he left it on his front porch.

Predictably some guy tried to steal it. The poor fool managed to move it one house over before giving up and dropping it in the street.

causi · 3 years ago
Rather misleading since the concrete isn't even structurally integral to the bike. It's more like a rebar bike that had concrete poured on it.
version_five · 3 years ago
The same thought went through my mind watching it, but you could say the same about most (many?) concrete structures. Someone with a structural background could explain better, but I believe the rebar and concrete provide different kinds of strength, like concrete is compressive strong (and keeps the minimal amount of rebar from moving around and bending, while the rebar keeps the concrete from cracking. Even for the bike, it wouldn't be the same structurally if they just wired up a rebar frame
pwg · 3 years ago
> but I believe the rebar and concrete provide different kinds of strength

Yes, concrete provides great compressive strength, but is not very strong given tensile loading.

Rebar provides the tensile loading support that concrete alone lacks.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebar

pkaye · 3 years ago
I took civil engineering a long ago in college but diverged on my career. This is what I recall.

In reinforce concrete beams the bending causes compression on the top and tension on the bottom. Since concrete is weak in tension (maybe 1/10 of compression strength), the rebar at the bottom will carry the tension. When you do the design calculations, some approximations are made like concrete carries no tension on bottom half of beam and how the stress is distributed on the top portion. Then with iterative analysis you can converge on an solution. Then once you got the basic design, there will other rules like displacement, buckling conditions.

Here is an example design calculation I could find: https://civilengineeringbible.com/subtopics.php?i=32

TheDudeMan · 3 years ago
Yes, but it doesn't matter for a bike. Riding it is not going to crumple that amount of rebar.
ddkto · 3 years ago
I suppose the technically correct term would be reinforced concrete bike
cptskippy · 3 years ago
I would say "I covered a bike in concrete" would be the most accurate title.
gpt5 · 3 years ago
It seems like they could achieve the same results by pouring concrete around a real bike frame (instead of build a bike frame out of rebar).
Kaibeezy · 3 years ago
The combination with steel is what gives concrete its power. It's a composite material created by the two things together. Concrete surrounds the steel frame and penetrates it. It binds the steel together.