Here is a summary from the Louis Rossmann YT comment:
To answer some common questions:
a) I have already emailed & called, and I patiently await a reply...
b) You can't re-renew with a 13 month old PIN if you already renewed.
c) You can't show up in person without an appointment.
d) Appointments are only granted by means of contact that don't reply.
e) Yes I have two other licenses that AREN'T expired, but those are useless, they are for selling laptops, not fixing laptops, which I don't do anymore anyway after the city was unable to give me a straight answer on how to do so without being fined: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi8_9WGk3Ok - I need this license in the video to be able to actually do repairs.
f) Just listen to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi8_9WGk3Ok This is what I am dealing with. After 15+ minutes and being transferred to two people, they can't answer a basic question about a rule they fined me for breaking that they can't even explain. They never emailed or called me back, which has been the behavior I have come to expect over the past nine years.
I am serious, if you work for the city and have any way of applying my 13 month old payment to this license renewal, you have the gratitude of myself & 14 of my employees who will get to continue paying their rents, mortgages, & food bill for their kids.
In spite of what people think, I am not a millionaire. If I'm forced to close - I can't afford to pay these people. I do not want that to happen.
I am not meming, I never get responses to DCA emails - not 3 months ago, not for NINE YEARS, and I don't expect to be able to now. Since I cannot sort this out in person due to the COVID closures, this channel is my only hope of reaching someone who can help me sort this out.
> c) You can't show up in person without an appointment.
> d) Appointments are only granted by means of contact that don't reply.
Similar thing happened to me recently with the IRS. Got a notice about them needing to verify my identity and gave me a number to call. Had been calling for months and would always get a message saying they were too busy and to try the following day. After trying a few other options to no avail, I decided to show up at my local IRS office without an appointment (which I couldn’t get anyway). They first turned me down, then told me that maybe if I waited for a few hours they might be able to see me at the end of the day, then after about 20min and them clearly not being busy, they talked to me and was able to resolve the issue within 15min.
So, even though I was told I couldn’t show up without an appointment, and they tried turning me down, just by being there they finally paid attention to me. Yes, it was uncomfortable and annoying to have to do that, but it worked.
Yup. Showing up is basically always a thing, because even if it’s not an official channel, you’ll end up bothering someone until they help you solve the problem.
And I think most people want to help others, but even if they’re selfish and don’t care about helping anyone, they’ll help you if you’re persistent and physically present.
Like the classic parable of the persistent widow: Luke 18:2-5
“He said, “In a certain city there was a judge who neither feared God nor respected man. 3 And there was a widow in that city who kept coming to him and saying, ‘Give me justice against my adversary.’ 4 For a while he refused, but afterward he said to himself, ‘Though I neither fear God nor respect man, 5 yet because this widow keeps bothering me, I will give her justice, so that she will not beat me down by her continual coming.’”
I guess this is one critique of exclusive remote working: it’s pretty easy to end up ghosted by someone in the approval chain for something.
This reminds me of dealing with immigration. I was supposed to get an “alien registration number” when I arrived in the USA on an immigrant via, yet for some reason I did not.
No one would talk to me, not matter how many times I explained for three months. I eventually took to driving to the INS building every single day until they finally gave up and issued me a number within 20 minutes.
Three months of not being allowed to work nor being able to leave the country was frustrating in the extreme.
Anyway, apparently the right way to deal with this is to contact your representative (for me it was a congressman or senator, for this guy their state-level person) and ask them to help.
In 2017 I had a problem with back taxes and the IRS was threatening to come after me. I couldn’t get them on the phone and it was important enough that I didn’t want to wait to resolve it via mail. I contacted my US congressperson and complained that they were making it impossible to work out an arrangement, and the fact that I wanted to give them money & couldn’t call them was ridiculous. A senior aide got back to me pretty quickly, and offered to help. Instead of relying on snail mail and nonfunctional phone calls, I was able to resolve the entire process via email and a couple phone calls with the aide. It was great, and I highly recommend giving it a try.
Same thing with Global Entry. Partner was stressed because it expired, no appoints, etc. Flew through a location w/ Global Entry and went there at open, in and out in 15 min; poof, TSA PRE worked next day.
I am in exactly this situation (but at the days/weeks timescale instead of months), so thanks for posting how you resolved this, I'll try my local IRS office.
I'm dealing with similar issues regarding a lost package through the USPS. The sender assured me they had updated my address but sent it to the old one anyway and then got lost.
I filled out the online form for missing packages and it said someone would follow up on the ticket number. No one did. I called the main USPS number and got through to an operator. They said someone should have followed up and then created a new ticket number. Still no follow up.
I called again and they gave me the number for some major customer affairs center (forget the name). First time the voicemail was full, second time I left a message but never heard back.
The local post office finally did call me back ... from an Unknown number (WTF?) so I didn't pick it up, then left a vague message about the package and said to call back the local post office number.
Every time I've tried to call that number it just stays on hold and then goes to a busy signal.
> since I cannot sort this out in person due to the COVID closures
...which I interpret as "the office I would go to to sort this out is empty; there is nobody there; the lights are off and the doors are locked. Everyone who would be working there is working from home."
IANAL but I mean if they say the way to notify them is to call them, and they don't respond to that call, the onus is on them, no?
I would think that you did your due diligence by calling and that it's their fault at that point.
Also, calling should never be a requirement. What if someone is deaf? Requiring someone to call without an online alternative should 100% be an ADA violation.
That said, you shouldn't have to call up a politician and beg in order to get government departments to perform functions that they are supposed to be performing.
If you have some ultra-edge case involving your deceased uncle's estate's something or other it can be understandable. But this should be a routine business transaction and the city is incapable of making it happen. He's trying to give them a large amount of money FFS, you'd think they'd accept it and then do the menial amount of work to make the records on their end reflect that.
This is why I think that if there has to be an unfixable Kafkaesque bureaucracy, I'd rather it be in the public sector rather than a monopoly in the private sector.
There is not much your local councilman / state rep / US Rep / US Senator / etc can do about a problem with Comcast. But I've seen appeals to elected officials fix lots of issues with government bureaucracy.
I just had an issue where I couldn’t get an appointment for a city service because of COVID, got ahold of my councilman and was there in 2 weeks. This is definitely what he should do.
And how many people bemoaning this situation in these comment threads will turn right around and advocate for more professional license requirements in some other comment thread.
You can't have the good without the bad. I'd like to see those people come out and say these are acceptable losses.
One important thing to note is that in the over 9 years I have held a DCA license for repair, they have never
a) checked my soldering skills
b) looked to see whether I got dust between the LCD cell & backlight layers when doing screen replacement
c) checked to see what quality of iPhone screens we use for screen repairs
d) asked or tested my ability to do my job
You pay the troll toll, and you get a paper that goes on your wall. I could be the best tech in the world, or I could be a giant idiot... you'd never know.
Some people have the mistaken impression that being licensed means I have been tested, inspected, etc.. nope. They inspect to make sure your business cards have your license number on them. They don't inspect to figure out if you actually do good work for your customers.
It sounds like the people who issue licenses need a professional license!
More seriously though: Rossmann's troubles are in the domain of business licenses, a licensing system that sounds too complex, staff that are not properly trained in the services they provide (or are incompetent for other reasons), and likely under-staffing in the departments he interacts with. My interpretation is this is more damning of the city itself than the principle of licensing.
I think I'm the typical person you're inviting to say it and I will: those are acceptable losses. Whenever you want a new licensing scheme, you have to balance the gains with the losses.
For example, my city had an issue where donation boxes would pop up on city lots next to parks and become dumpsters. The city implemented a licensing scheme, which forced the companies and non-profits to collect from the boxes at a regular frequency, and now the problem is solved. No bags of old books left soaking in the rain turning into useless pulp. But someone could argue the licensing scheme stops some non-profits from collecting much needed donations. It totally does, but it's worth it.
Well, two different things can be true at the same time. Also, this seems less a problem with licenses and more a problem with getting and renewing them. Which are two related but different issues.
> advocate for more professional license requirements in some other comment thread.
How in the world is this now a comment on the validity of licensing services? An organization has bad customer service so you should throw the entire field out?
I know someone who was on hold with an airline for hours, should we dismantle airlines? Is notoriously impossible to get google on the phone, should we scrap search engines and online advertising?
This post is simply looking for an reason to push a personal point.
This is like dealing with a monopoly that you can't unsubscribe to. And imagine those who don't have a large Youtube following and don't have the money for a lawyer. What are they to do?
This is not the time to play with city workers lacking in proactivity and/or competence. This is lawyer and/or representative time. Escalate the issue (ok, he's doing this with the video)
If the payment was done, that shows intent on renewing the license. Might be worth nothing, might be worth something.
Do you think if the city sits on a permit renewal by Chase or Starbucks that they'll diligently sit and wait? Yeah, right...
Before running to a lawyer he should at least send a paper letter. Skip this email and phone BS.
Certified, Return Receipt, signature required. Even a lack of response is still documented. Right now it's just he said/she said. And if it does get to the legal level, having an official and actionable paper trail is a lot stronger than "they haven't answered one email in 9 years". A judge isn't going to care about that (right or wrong is irrelevant - email is not as actionable of communications in business vs. mailed correspondence.)
If they still don't respond to a letter like that and it bounces back from the post office then you really have something for an attorney to start with. Attorneys are expensive - do the basics first before engaging one (if you have to).
And no, engaging an attorney does not automatically = a lawsuit. Quite the opposite, actually.
Unfortunately, the hard truth, in America at least, is you have to hire a lawyer for these problems. Most such problems magically disappear that way. It's unfair, but it's how it works. It's a lot like needing to bribe an official to get something done: if you don't understand, the system seems impenetrable.
Why is this being downvoted? It seems like perfectly reasonable advice and one of the first things that came to my mind as well. Is there something in the video that happens which is causing people to vote this down?
Edit: instead of silently voting me down too I encourage someone to provide thoughtful written discourse expressing your disagreement so we can all grow and learn together
How long would it take to have this resolved in court? Courts that are backlogged due to Covid? What's a business owner supposed to do while this goes through the courts?
That's not even a regulation problem per se, it's a bureaucracy issue. The only regulation here is that you need to get a piece of paper to do business. There's no complex requirement, no job-specific rules to follow, no training requirement, nothing except a piece of official paper.
Some jobs in some places may have onerous requirements for some jobs, possibly for good reason, such as having a doctorate to perform medicine, which takes a decade of hard work or so. The bureaucracy involved may be simple, you're supposed to have the diploma: if you're found to have performed medical acts without it you end up in jail. (This is not typically how it's done any more for a number of good reasons, incidentally.)
Getting a simple piece of paper is the problem. As far as regulations are concerned, this is not any more complex than buying a concert ticket. If the festival you wanted to attend turned out to be unable to do that in a timely manner, you wouldn't fault them for selling tickets. You'd fault them for sucking at a simple business task.
I've met Louis in person, he's truly a standup guy with a heart of gold. That said, he needs to pony up and get a lawyer. Making petty arguments on YouTube isn't going to help you with bureaucracy it's only going to make things worse. If government employees (state or otherwise) hate one thing, it's being called out point blank for how they either a) don't do their job or b) are effectively worthless.
To be frank, I don't see why Louis hasn't left new york / the east coast yet. I was unfortunate enough to move to NYC just in time for covid. I still enjoyed my time in New York but I really understand a lot of what Louis has been saying about the city itself. Subsequently I left. He clearly hates the business climate, makes weekly videos about how much NYC sucks. Maybe for his own health it's time to move to another state?
> Making petty arguments on YouTube isn't going to help you with bureaucracy it's only going to make things worse.
Looks like you were wrong, from the linked video (an hour ago):
> Thank you to everyone here who made a fuss, as I doubt I would've had someone on this case this quickly otherwise. The emails & calls I received this morning from the city made me feel like a customer at the Hilton... which I don't gotta tell you is NOT the way I usually feel when contacting NYC government bureaucracies.
Apparently dealing with the NYC government is like dealing with Google. When they screw up, your best bet is to complain loudly in public and hope your complaints go viral.
He is leaving, they're planning to move to Florida, or another suitable area.
He's big enough now that yeah, he needs lawyers on retainer. Part of the video is to show just how insane cities are, and how they don't play by the rules if you don't litigate. This isn't how any of it is meant to work. If Louis is successful in his move, no doubt others will follow.
In other videos (especially for the prior license issue about resell of used goods vs. the repair license) he does seem to talk to lawyers who are familiar with the city rules but has reported not having great avenues to success. The problem seems genuinely tied to some parts of the city government still assessing fees/fines/so forth, but the COVID rules are preventing escalation/remedy in person in a meaningful way and the only way to get traction is to do so. The general vibe he's been putting out across the last couple months is just that he's feeling like he's getting shook down since in his perspective he's holding his end of the bargain with paying for licenses yet can't get the city to hold theirs.
I remember him saying in another video that NYC is going to become basically a ghost town in a couple decades if this kind of behavior from the government (along with its failure to fix the real estate problems) keeps up. It's curious to wonder if that is accurate. Only time will tell I suppose
Not every city is like this. Rich cities that can systematically screw people and get away with it are like this because business like this one aren't a large enough overall part of their revenue stream for them to care about.
Poor cities can't systematically marginalize small business without hurting themselves enough to be held accountable so they don't generally do this kind of thing or when they do they fix the system quickly.
I remember seeing a video by Louis, where he talked about speaking to a lawyer. He was told to pay a fine, instead of going through the legal trouble. It would be both easier and cost him less, because it would probably happen again, and then he would have to lawyer up again.
He mentions in his videos that it is largely because he has built up a team of people with a very specific expertise built over years working with him, that you can't just find - meaning training people up from scratch. He'd effectively be started the business from scratch in that case. He's offered them all very good relocation benefits but obviously if people are content they're not going to want to move and he doesn't want to forcefully coerce them to.
Why would you move from a city in which your skills are in high demand, and you already have a rolodex of clients with whom you have established a relationship? The relocation benefits have to be obscene to counter that glorious opportunity.
As long as New Yorkers still exist in their dense millions, service providers will always appear to fill a market need, even when they have to jump hoops (to a point). NYC knows this. China knows this.
I love this aspect of USA. Hate the gov? Move to another state. It’s not easy and slightly prohibitive, but less prohibitive than moving to another country.
> Making petty arguments on YouTube isn't going to help you with bureaucracy it's only going to make things worse. If government employees (state or otherwise) hate one thing, it's being called out point blank for how they either a) don't do their job or b) are effectively worthless.
Don't talk about the problem or the useless government employees will retaliate. How do we get rid of them?
This coule be part of his appeal to his followers. If he left NY, then he'd just be an outsider complaining on the internet about something he's no longer affects him. Plus, you can dislike the bizenv, but love other aspects of the area.
> To be frank, I don't see why Louis hasn't left new york / the east coast yet.
He mentions in the video that he's working on setting up another site, but he has employees in New York that don't want to move and he doesn't want to throw them under the bus by closing his New York location.
> Maybe for his own health it's time to move to another state?
He's doing just fine. His youtube rankings are pretty "up there" for that genre of channel. There is no way to know how that compares to the repair shop, but I suspect it's at least a comparable income stream.
He makes 1st person videos of himself riding around Manhattan on his bike, free-associating and showing abandoned store-fronts BECAUSE it gets clicks-- otherwise it would be a waste of time. There's libertarian edge to it all. It looks like the commenters are heavily populated with red-state doom-scrollers rubber-necking at the "downfall" of NYC.
If Rossman would move out of NYC to somewhere else, he wouldn't have as much grist for the youtube channel, would he? He would have to go back to making strictly repair videos, loose his whole staff, and probably have less volume in his repair business as well.
Yes, but he's also made numerous videos about how he makes less than a pittance of income from YouTube. Yes, the doom-scrolling applies here, but he's from New York originally and you can tell the amicus is how a place he grew up in is still going down-hill.
I was in NYC for all of covid and can confirm that Fox News is full of it when it comes to "rampant crime in NYC" however it's not a perfectly rosy picture either in terms of the recovery of small business and character of the city.
I tell anyone who will listen: stay as far away from NYC and NYS as you can when you're operating a business. The bureaucracy is insanely complex and both governments harbor a very strong anti-business sentiment.
NYS charged my previous, 2-person, zero employee agency a $14K fee for not having a Workers Comp policy, even though having one isn't necessary for member-managed businesses. We sent in paperwork demonstrating our case and they didn't care. They kept asking for more proof that we didn't have employees—even though they had no evidence that we did have them. A bit hard to prove a negative!
After several years of back and forth, we finally just said forget it, closed that entity, and started ignoring the monthly shakedown notices. Now I'm wary of even having clients in NYS.
[Edit: I've heard CA is similar, but don't have personal experience there.]
[Edit: I've heard CA is similar, but don't have personal experience there.]
Have personal experience with CA. It's not at all the same. NYC is a nightmare to work with, but CA agencies are quite easy to work with. The only other jurisdiction as bad as NYC is the state of Hawaii.
Other than during the tax filing season I can reach a live human at a CA agency (except the DMV) within a few minutes just by calling. Representatives are very helpful over the phone, and I've resolved many issues for clients and my employer (now that I'm in-house) just by calling.
CA's bureaucracy looks complex, but it's actually very easy to navigate, and if you need help, there are a great many government employees who would be happy to help.
I've heard a lot of similar stories about NYC (less for NYS) and I am always wondering what the end game is for these guys. Do you feel like someone was trying to get you to bribe them or something? Absent that, I have a hard time understanding why they would be so persistent in going after you in such a chickenshit fashion.
I heard some years ago from someone who used to work there that Cisco simply refused to bother doing business with New York State - simply would refuse to bid - because they found the entire process to be literally not worth the business.
(no other verification, no info on the current status)
Unfortunately, a lot of first-time entrepreneurs don't know these things and register wherever they live. And even if you register in another state, you still have to abide by NYS/NYC rules if you operate in those regions.
Boston is not much better. I have been trying to get hold of someone to move a bureaucratic process forwards, that only this department can do, for 8 weeks now. Letters, emails, voicemails, nothing can get someone to reply or call me back. Absurd.
My least favorite Mass. business experience this year was the complete fuckup with the Dept of Unemployment Assistance solvency fund. My DUA tax rate went from 2.5% to 7.5%. Frigging legislature and state government had no clue that this was coming, and left small businesses like mine swinging in the wind.
You didn't at the time. The reason we got flagged was because we started talking to insurers about adding a policy at one point in anticipation of hiring.
Complex bureaucracy is not because of anti-business sentiment, it is a business model.
This system is kept because it probably sustains a whole economy of intermediaries (either doing legal, grey-area or illegal/bribery work) and the key public machine figures responsible to make it leaner get some benefit out of it.
CA makes mistakes, but not generally very long-term. They’re also quite responsive - I’ve never had a situation in which they didn’t respond, except for the FTB which can take a few weeks or months depending on time of season (similar to the IRS). Every other agency is, well, still a government agency… but tends to be responsive at least.
Issues like these are why many people conclude it’s best to reduce the size and power of government. The incompetence and apathy in this small, city level bureaucracy is akin to lighting taxpayer money on fire. Now scale that to huge society-wide government initiatives and departments and you have an awe inspiring level of waste.
If you listen to the phone call he had with that organization - the level of apathy and incompetence is breathtaking. That whole conversation reeks of an organization that has never had to be accountable to anyone for anything. You'd think people would at least have some basic professional pride but here we are.
Reducing the size of the government wouldn’t solve much, though, and it would rather make it even more disappointing. This kind of malfunction almost looks like some people in power are ok with leaving the impression the government is impossible to fix, and its size should be reduced.
When people say reduce the size of the government they're not saying just get rid of the people who can issue the permits. They're saying to get rid of the permits altogether. You shouldn't need the government's permission to fix computers.
Except for it's NYC which means I can assure you the people in power love government and would love more of it and think they're actually doing a good job.
I think what you get in places with limitless opportunity like NYC is the people attracted to government are either not able to cut it in a city like NYC (hence why government employees there are generally incompetent and indifferent) or see the immense wealth as something they can latch on to and exploit to satisfy their hunger for power over other people.
It would be nice to post a text summary so those of us who don't want to waste time sifting through a 17 minute video can get a summary and decide to keep reading/watching or move on.
He's complaining about the NYC licensing bureau sending him a letter about renewing his business license when he already did it last June. I didn't watch the whole thing either because I didn't find it particularly interesting. I'm assuming the license is supposed to be good for more than one year given his rant, which means he probably just got the mailer by accident and is making a clickbait video.
No, having worked with others going through the same issue -- the NYC beauracracy for local businesses is truly broken and terrifying for small time operators.
As someone whose gotten pretty involved in advocacy work in the city, this is the sad chain of events that I can imagine might work(Probably not within 30days though):
1. Contact the local community board where the business is and try and speak during public hours during a meeting. Let them know the situation, point out how badly it's impacting business and see if they can reach out to their contacts to get a direct contact. Attendance and representation at these meetings skews heavily towards older wealthier people, so they likely have much more experience working within the system.
2. NYPD reps usually show up at CB meetings. After you speak, talk to one of the NYPD reps and get their info in front of everyone. If you go directly to the precinct there's practically a 0% chance anything productive will happen(especially because you can't legally record anything in a precinct anymore), but the reps they send to CB meetings have to look like they're doing something and will likely give you a card with their personal email and phone number. If you send an email to them about the situation, you'll have another form of documentation to put up, even if they do nothing to help directly.
3. Contact your local councilmember's office via phone. YMMV, but I was very surprised how receptive mine was to complaints I had and how quickly they were able to get some situations resolved after a few emails.
I have reached out to my representative (either local or federal) and have gotten meaningful responses and in several cases, they took action that successfully helped to resolve the issue (in one case, someone held in border detention, in the other case a local french preschool that was in threat of going out of business due to some fire code misunderstanding).
It's not a sure thing but it's has a good likelihood of results.
They are typically the main group of people who enforce laws in NYC, and operating a business without a license sounds like something they’d come in quick to shutdown. They were also the ones who originally came to his place to handle a separate ‘incident’ that he was fined for that he discussed for several minutes in his video. So instead of waiting for them to come by and find an excuse to shut him down or fine him again, it’s better to have written communication with the precinct captain to fall back on that explains his case.
I don't think people as many people realize this as they should, but when your local government is so incompetent they can't get back to you in a reasonable time, you're basically fucked.
You almost cannot ever meaningfully sue them.
Almost all national governance has sovereign immunity, and only occasionally relinquishes a portion of it to physical damages.
The solution: leave New York. The idea of having to get permission to operate a business (unless it causes pollution, etc.) is anti-American. Don't accept such rules, and move to where that kind of nonsense doesn't happen. Vote with your feet/wallet.
I watch Louis' channel often, but I don't recall him mentioning what his employees think (only that they exist). For all we know, they might be as fed up with NYC as Louis is.
To answer some common questions:
a) I have already emailed & called, and I patiently await a reply...
b) You can't re-renew with a 13 month old PIN if you already renewed.
c) You can't show up in person without an appointment.
d) Appointments are only granted by means of contact that don't reply.
e) Yes I have two other licenses that AREN'T expired, but those are useless, they are for selling laptops, not fixing laptops, which I don't do anymore anyway after the city was unable to give me a straight answer on how to do so without being fined: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi8_9WGk3Ok - I need this license in the video to be able to actually do repairs.
f) Just listen to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi8_9WGk3Ok This is what I am dealing with. After 15+ minutes and being transferred to two people, they can't answer a basic question about a rule they fined me for breaking that they can't even explain. They never emailed or called me back, which has been the behavior I have come to expect over the past nine years.
I am serious, if you work for the city and have any way of applying my 13 month old payment to this license renewal, you have the gratitude of myself & 14 of my employees who will get to continue paying their rents, mortgages, & food bill for their kids.
In spite of what people think, I am not a millionaire. If I'm forced to close - I can't afford to pay these people. I do not want that to happen.
I am not meming, I never get responses to DCA emails - not 3 months ago, not for NINE YEARS, and I don't expect to be able to now. Since I cannot sort this out in person due to the COVID closures, this channel is my only hope of reaching someone who can help me sort this out.
> d) Appointments are only granted by means of contact that don't reply.
Similar thing happened to me recently with the IRS. Got a notice about them needing to verify my identity and gave me a number to call. Had been calling for months and would always get a message saying they were too busy and to try the following day. After trying a few other options to no avail, I decided to show up at my local IRS office without an appointment (which I couldn’t get anyway). They first turned me down, then told me that maybe if I waited for a few hours they might be able to see me at the end of the day, then after about 20min and them clearly not being busy, they talked to me and was able to resolve the issue within 15min.
So, even though I was told I couldn’t show up without an appointment, and they tried turning me down, just by being there they finally paid attention to me. Yes, it was uncomfortable and annoying to have to do that, but it worked.
And I think most people want to help others, but even if they’re selfish and don’t care about helping anyone, they’ll help you if you’re persistent and physically present.
Like the classic parable of the persistent widow: Luke 18:2-5
“He said, “In a certain city there was a judge who neither feared God nor respected man. 3 And there was a widow in that city who kept coming to him and saying, ‘Give me justice against my adversary.’ 4 For a while he refused, but afterward he said to himself, ‘Though I neither fear God nor respect man, 5 yet because this widow keeps bothering me, I will give her justice, so that she will not beat me down by her continual coming.’”
I guess this is one critique of exclusive remote working: it’s pretty easy to end up ghosted by someone in the approval chain for something.
https://www.irs.gov/advocate/the-taxpayer-advocate-service-i...
No one would talk to me, not matter how many times I explained for three months. I eventually took to driving to the INS building every single day until they finally gave up and issued me a number within 20 minutes.
Three months of not being allowed to work nor being able to leave the country was frustrating in the extreme.
Anyway, apparently the right way to deal with this is to contact your representative (for me it was a congressman or senator, for this guy their state-level person) and ask them to help.
Works much more often that you would expect.
I filled out the online form for missing packages and it said someone would follow up on the ticket number. No one did. I called the main USPS number and got through to an operator. They said someone should have followed up and then created a new ticket number. Still no follow up.
I called again and they gave me the number for some major customer affairs center (forget the name). First time the voicemail was full, second time I left a message but never heard back.
The local post office finally did call me back ... from an Unknown number (WTF?) so I didn't pick it up, then left a vague message about the package and said to call back the local post office number.
Every time I've tried to call that number it just stays on hold and then goes to a busy signal.
> since I cannot sort this out in person due to the COVID closures
...which I interpret as "the office I would go to to sort this out is empty; there is nobody there; the lights are off and the doors are locked. Everyone who would be working there is working from home."
I would think that you did your due diligence by calling and that it's their fault at that point.
Also, calling should never be a requirement. What if someone is deaf? Requiring someone to call without an online alternative should 100% be an ADA violation.
That said, you shouldn't have to call up a politician and beg in order to get government departments to perform functions that they are supposed to be performing.
If you have some ultra-edge case involving your deceased uncle's estate's something or other it can be understandable. But this should be a routine business transaction and the city is incapable of making it happen. He's trying to give them a large amount of money FFS, you'd think they'd accept it and then do the menial amount of work to make the records on their end reflect that.
There is not much your local councilman / state rep / US Rep / US Senator / etc can do about a problem with Comcast. But I've seen appeals to elected officials fix lots of issues with government bureaucracy.
You can't have the good without the bad. I'd like to see those people come out and say these are acceptable losses.
a) checked my soldering skills b) looked to see whether I got dust between the LCD cell & backlight layers when doing screen replacement c) checked to see what quality of iPhone screens we use for screen repairs d) asked or tested my ability to do my job
You pay the troll toll, and you get a paper that goes on your wall. I could be the best tech in the world, or I could be a giant idiot... you'd never know.
Some people have the mistaken impression that being licensed means I have been tested, inspected, etc.. nope. They inspect to make sure your business cards have your license number on them. They don't inspect to figure out if you actually do good work for your customers.
More seriously though: Rossmann's troubles are in the domain of business licenses, a licensing system that sounds too complex, staff that are not properly trained in the services they provide (or are incompetent for other reasons), and likely under-staffing in the departments he interacts with. My interpretation is this is more damning of the city itself than the principle of licensing.
For example, my city had an issue where donation boxes would pop up on city lots next to parks and become dumpsters. The city implemented a licensing scheme, which forced the companies and non-profits to collect from the boxes at a regular frequency, and now the problem is solved. No bags of old books left soaking in the rain turning into useless pulp. But someone could argue the licensing scheme stops some non-profits from collecting much needed donations. It totally does, but it's worth it.
How in the world is this now a comment on the validity of licensing services? An organization has bad customer service so you should throw the entire field out?
I know someone who was on hold with an airline for hours, should we dismantle airlines? Is notoriously impossible to get google on the phone, should we scrap search engines and online advertising?
This post is simply looking for an reason to push a personal point.
This is not a rational claim. Yes, you certainly can have the good without the bad. The existence of a process doesn't imply its brokenness.
If the payment was done, that shows intent on renewing the license. Might be worth nothing, might be worth something.
Do you think if the city sits on a permit renewal by Chase or Starbucks that they'll diligently sit and wait? Yeah, right...
If they still don't respond to a letter like that and it bounces back from the post office then you really have something for an attorney to start with. Attorneys are expensive - do the basics first before engaging one (if you have to).
And no, engaging an attorney does not automatically = a lawsuit. Quite the opposite, actually.
Edit: instead of silently voting me down too I encourage someone to provide thoughtful written discourse expressing your disagreement so we can all grow and learn together
And obviously, how much is it going to cost?
Some jobs in some places may have onerous requirements for some jobs, possibly for good reason, such as having a doctorate to perform medicine, which takes a decade of hard work or so. The bureaucracy involved may be simple, you're supposed to have the diploma: if you're found to have performed medical acts without it you end up in jail. (This is not typically how it's done any more for a number of good reasons, incidentally.)
Getting a simple piece of paper is the problem. As far as regulations are concerned, this is not any more complex than buying a concert ticket. If the festival you wanted to attend turned out to be unable to do that in a timely manner, you wouldn't fault them for selling tickets. You'd fault them for sucking at a simple business task.
To be frank, I don't see why Louis hasn't left new york / the east coast yet. I was unfortunate enough to move to NYC just in time for covid. I still enjoyed my time in New York but I really understand a lot of what Louis has been saying about the city itself. Subsequently I left. He clearly hates the business climate, makes weekly videos about how much NYC sucks. Maybe for his own health it's time to move to another state?
Looks like you were wrong, from the linked video (an hour ago):
> Thank you to everyone here who made a fuss, as I doubt I would've had someone on this case this quickly otherwise. The emails & calls I received this morning from the city made me feel like a customer at the Hilton... which I don't gotta tell you is NOT the way I usually feel when contacting NYC government bureaucracies.
Apparently dealing with the NYC government is like dealing with Google. When they screw up, your best bet is to complain loudly in public and hope your complaints go viral.
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He's big enough now that yeah, he needs lawyers on retainer. Part of the video is to show just how insane cities are, and how they don't play by the rules if you don't litigate. This isn't how any of it is meant to work. If Louis is successful in his move, no doubt others will follow.
Poor cities can't systematically marginalize small business without hurting themselves enough to be held accountable so they don't generally do this kind of thing or when they do they fix the system quickly.
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As long as New Yorkers still exist in their dense millions, service providers will always appear to fill a market need, even when they have to jump hoops (to a point). NYC knows this. China knows this.
It also encourages states to compete with each other, try new ideas and attract businesses; for e.g. Arizona and Southwest chip industry: https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-southwest-is-americas-new-f...
Don't talk about the problem or the useless government employees will retaliate. How do we get rid of them?
This coule be part of his appeal to his followers. If he left NY, then he'd just be an outsider complaining on the internet about something he's no longer affects him. Plus, you can dislike the bizenv, but love other aspects of the area.
He mentions in the video that he's working on setting up another site, but he has employees in New York that don't want to move and he doesn't want to throw them under the bus by closing his New York location.
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He's doing just fine. His youtube rankings are pretty "up there" for that genre of channel. There is no way to know how that compares to the repair shop, but I suspect it's at least a comparable income stream.
He makes 1st person videos of himself riding around Manhattan on his bike, free-associating and showing abandoned store-fronts BECAUSE it gets clicks-- otherwise it would be a waste of time. There's libertarian edge to it all. It looks like the commenters are heavily populated with red-state doom-scrollers rubber-necking at the "downfall" of NYC.
If Rossman would move out of NYC to somewhere else, he wouldn't have as much grist for the youtube channel, would he? He would have to go back to making strictly repair videos, loose his whole staff, and probably have less volume in his repair business as well.
I was in NYC for all of covid and can confirm that Fox News is full of it when it comes to "rampant crime in NYC" however it's not a perfectly rosy picture either in terms of the recovery of small business and character of the city.
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NYS charged my previous, 2-person, zero employee agency a $14K fee for not having a Workers Comp policy, even though having one isn't necessary for member-managed businesses. We sent in paperwork demonstrating our case and they didn't care. They kept asking for more proof that we didn't have employees—even though they had no evidence that we did have them. A bit hard to prove a negative!
After several years of back and forth, we finally just said forget it, closed that entity, and started ignoring the monthly shakedown notices. Now I'm wary of even having clients in NYS.
[Edit: I've heard CA is similar, but don't have personal experience there.]
Have personal experience with CA. It's not at all the same. NYC is a nightmare to work with, but CA agencies are quite easy to work with. The only other jurisdiction as bad as NYC is the state of Hawaii.
Other than during the tax filing season I can reach a live human at a CA agency (except the DMV) within a few minutes just by calling. Representatives are very helpful over the phone, and I've resolved many issues for clients and my employer (now that I'm in-house) just by calling.
CA's bureaucracy looks complex, but it's actually very easy to navigate, and if you need help, there are a great many government employees who would be happy to help.
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My least favorite Mass. business experience this year was the complete fuckup with the Dept of Unemployment Assistance solvency fund. My DUA tax rate went from 2.5% to 7.5%. Frigging legislature and state government had no clue that this was coming, and left small businesses like mine swinging in the wind.
https://www.masslive.com/politics/2021/04/some-massachusetts...
But frankly this is nothing compared to doing business with the U.S. government through bids. Never, ever, ever attempting that again.
Don't you have to waive it in advance though?
Most sites gloss over these sorts of legal requirements.
I think what you get in places with limitless opportunity like NYC is the people attracted to government are either not able to cut it in a city like NYC (hence why government employees there are generally incompetent and indifferent) or see the immense wealth as something they can latch on to and exploit to satisfy their hunger for power over other people.
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1. Contact the local community board where the business is and try and speak during public hours during a meeting. Let them know the situation, point out how badly it's impacting business and see if they can reach out to their contacts to get a direct contact. Attendance and representation at these meetings skews heavily towards older wealthier people, so they likely have much more experience working within the system.
2. NYPD reps usually show up at CB meetings. After you speak, talk to one of the NYPD reps and get their info in front of everyone. If you go directly to the precinct there's practically a 0% chance anything productive will happen(especially because you can't legally record anything in a precinct anymore), but the reps they send to CB meetings have to look like they're doing something and will likely give you a card with their personal email and phone number. If you send an email to them about the situation, you'll have another form of documentation to put up, even if they do nothing to help directly.
3. Contact your local councilmember's office via phone. YMMV, but I was very surprised how receptive mine was to complaints I had and how quickly they were able to get some situations resolved after a few emails.
I have reached out to my representative (either local or federal) and have gotten meaningful responses and in several cases, they took action that successfully helped to resolve the issue (in one case, someone held in border detention, in the other case a local french preschool that was in threat of going out of business due to some fire code misunderstanding).
It's not a sure thing but it's has a good likelihood of results.
You almost cannot ever meaningfully sue them.
Almost all national governance has sovereign immunity, and only occasionally relinquishes a portion of it to physical damages.
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