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krupan commented on Noam Chomsky's wife responds to Epstein controversy   aaronmate.net/p/noam-chom... · Posted by u/Red_Tarsius
krupan · 12 hours ago
Amazing when it comes to Epstein (and other controversial actions/decisions) how detailed and open minded we are when it comes to someone we liked and supported, and how cut and dry we want things to be when it's someone we don't like.
krupan commented on AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it   siddhantkhare.com/writing... · Posted by u/sidk24
raincole · 13 hours ago
> HN homepage is still quite sane.

Those Show HN posts aren't the insane part. Insane part is like:

> Thank you, OpenClaw. Thank you, AGI—for me, it’s already here.

> If you haven't spent at least $1,000 on tokens today per human engineer, your software factory has room for improvement

> Code must not be reviewed by humans

> Following this hypothesis, what C did to assembler, what Java did to C, what Javascript/Python/Perl did to Java, now LLM agents are doing to all programming languages.

(All quoted from actual homepage posts today. Fun game: guess which quote is from which article)

krupan · 12 hours ago
This is so disheartening. Time to short more tech stocks
krupan commented on AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it   siddhantkhare.com/writing... · Posted by u/sidk24
krupan · 12 hours ago
This author puts to words several thoughts of mine that have been jelling recently. In the end I still seems to miss that AI is totally optional. It's a depressing read because the basic gist is, this AI stuff is weird and depressing and addicting to the point of losing productivity, but I have to use it so here are some ways to try and counter those negatives.

Dude! You don't have to use it!! Just write code yourself. Do a web search if you are stuck, the information is still out there on stack overflow and reddit. Maybe us kagi instead of Google, but the old ways still work really well.

krupan commented on I am happier writing code by hand   abhinavomprakash.com/post... · Posted by u/lazyfolder
chasd00 · 13 hours ago
Also, you’re still in control of your code. It’s not an xor thing, the agent does its thing but the code is still there and yours. You can still adjust, fix, enhance etc. you’re still in control. The agent is there to help as much or as little as you want.
krupan · 12 hours ago
Control over code requires understanding it. That's what letting an LLM wrote everything takes away from you
krupan commented on I am happier writing code by hand   abhinavomprakash.com/post... · Posted by u/lazyfolder
zozbot234 · 13 hours ago
> you lost control of the code and are running more and more frictionless on hopes and dreams

Your control over the code is your prompt. Write more detailed prompts and the control comes back. (The best part is that you can also work with the AI to come up with better prompts, but unlike with slop-written code, the result is bite-sized and easily surveyable.)

krupan · 12 hours ago
You what code is? A very detailed specification that drives a deterministic machine. Maybe we don't need to keep giving LLMs more details, maybe we could skip the middle man there
krupan commented on I am happier writing code by hand   abhinavomprakash.com/post... · Posted by u/lazyfolder
chasd00 · 13 hours ago
It _does_ feel good, I know what you mean. I don’t understand why exactly but there’s def an emotion associated with vibe coding. It may be related to the feeling you get when you get some code working and finish a requirement or solve a problem. Maybe vibe coding gives you a shortcut to that endorphin. I think it’s going to be particularly important to manage that feeling and balance with reality. You know, I wonder how similar this reaction is to the endorphins from YouTube shorts or other social media. If it’s as addicting (and it’s looking that way) but requires a subscription and tied to work instead of entertainment then the justification for the billions and billions of investment dollars is obvious. Interesting times indeed.
krupan commented on I am happier writing code by hand   abhinavomprakash.com/post... · Posted by u/lazyfolder
woeirua · 13 hours ago
This is no different then carpentry. Yes, all furniture can now be built by machines. Some people still choose to build it by hand. Does that make them less productive? Yes. Will they ever carve furniture by hand for a business? Probably not. Can they still enjoy the act of working with the wood? Yes.

If you want to code by hand, then do it! No one's stopping you. But we shouldn't pretend that you will be able to do that professionally for much longer.

krupan · 12 hours ago
Like, do you even know how furniture is designed and built? Do you know how software is designed and built? Where is this comment even coming from? And people are agreeing with this?

A friend of mine reposted someone saying that "AI will soon be improving itself with no human intervention!!" And I tried asking my friend if he could imagine how an LLM could design and manufacture a chip, and then a computer to use that chip, and then a data center to house thousands of those computers, and he had no response.

People have no perspective but are making bold assertion after bold assertion

If this doesn't signal a bubble I don't know what does

krupan commented on I am happier writing code by hand   abhinavomprakash.com/post... · Posted by u/lazyfolder
krupan · 12 hours ago
The most pertinent thought in this is where the author asks, "LLMs can generate decent-ish and correct-ish looking code while I have more time to do what? doomscroll?"

LLMs are not good enough for you to set and forget. You have to stay nearby babysitting it, keeping half an eye on it. That's what's so disheartening to many of us.

In my career I have mentored junior engineers and seen them rapidly learn new things and increase their capabilities. Watching over them for a shirt while is pretty rewarding. I've also worked with contract developers who were not much better than current LLMs, and like LLMs they seemed incapable of learning directly from me. Unwilling even. They were quick to say nice words like, "ok, I understand, I'll do it differently next time," but then they didn't change at all. Those were some of the most frustrating times in my career. That's the feeling I get when using LLMs for writing code.

krupan commented on I am happier writing code by hand   abhinavomprakash.com/post... · Posted by u/lazyfolder
neversupervised · 13 hours ago
Dev happiness is not the determining factor of how software will be written at scale
krupan · 12 hours ago
If you think unhappy devs are going to produce anything good then please let me know the stock ticker of your company so I can short it
krupan commented on Wall Street just lost $285B because of 13 Markdown files   martinalderson.com/posts/... · Posted by u/nomdep
brazzy · 3 days ago
The connection is implied: technology companies quite suddenly lost a $285bn in market valuation, which means that the owners of these companies (either as stock or other forms of equity) have a combined $285bn less net worth. And apparently people are linking this sudden decrease in market valuation to "Anthropic launching a legal tool", which essentially consists of said markdown files.
krupan · 3 days ago
Clearly the author is implying that, but with zero evidence to back that implication up. Not even an attempt to link the two other than saying "this happened" and "this exists." And hacker news is upvoting it like it's actually an interesting article. Have we lost our brains?

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