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cloutchaser commented on Tesla to build 25,000-euro car at German plant   reuters.com/business/auto... · Posted by u/mfiguiere
bagels · 2 years ago
It was marketed as a $35,000 car, and never sold as such. First editions were all more expensive (long range or dual motor, I forget which)
cloutchaser · 2 years ago
They did. Then they stopped. https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/16/21569524/tesla-model-3-3...

The model 3 is still the 7th most sold car in 2022.

Is a car company not allowed to raise prices? Like what standard are you holding tesla to? If they can sell a tesla for $42k, why sell it for $35k? Because Elon said so in 2015? That's ridiculous, its just not how markets or companies work. And they DID sell it for $35,000, for a while. So Elon didn't even lie.

Absolutely ridiculous the mental gymnastics some people will go to to hate the guy. Insane.

cloutchaser commented on Europe drastically cut its energy consumption this winter   economist.com/graphic-det... · Posted by u/mfiguiere
RandomLensman · 3 years ago
I am sorry, but that is straight up from the Russian propaganda talking point list.
cloutchaser · 3 years ago
How is saying the US (who spend more than the rest of the world combined on defense) should destroy Russia - Russian propaganda?

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cloutchaser commented on UK expected to be only major economy to shrink in 2023 – IMF   bbc.co.uk/news/business-6... · Posted by u/open-source-ux
rayiner · 3 years ago
The UK’s GDP per capita peaked in 2007 and has stagnated since then: https://www.google.com/search?q=uk+gdp+per+capita&ie=UTF-8&o.... 2008 was the global financial collapse, of course, but in the UK it seemed to have exposed some fundamental economic problems because the country never recovered. Whatever is “killing the UK economy” happened long before Brexit. It’s actually like the Sixth Sense—the UK isn’t dying, it was dead the whole time.

Heck, if you look at the chart of GDP per capita you can’t even tell where the Brexit vote happened or when Brexit formally happened. Something similar happened Italy around the same time, as well as Greece.

cloutchaser · 3 years ago
People seem to ignore the EU is in just as bad a state as the UK, especially now that Russian energy is over Germany as we know it is basically over.

Brexit might have had an impact but it’s one of 10 things badly wrong with europe as a whole.

cloutchaser commented on Why ultra-light urban vehicles offer the only viable future for EVs   maddyness.com/uk/2023/01/... · Posted by u/MaxLunn
mathieuh · 3 years ago
Public transport usually uses very large vehicles called buses which can fit many times more than four people
cloutchaser · 3 years ago
In a city. How about anyone living in the countyside? Do those people not exist? Where my parents live, there is are 3 buses per day. None around school time. How does a child get to school? Or should these families just move to the city?

Do families get to go anywhere for more than a few hours? How do you bring all their stuff along like clothes, toothbrush, etc. Every child needs a minimum of 1l of water all the time, and some snacks in case they get hungry. And toys. And change of clothes in case they spill the 1l of water on themselves in the winter.

What happens when both parents have 20kg+ bags and one of your children decides to run away, say into traffic?

Judging by the replies to my original comment, not many people on HN have children or have any idea what it involves.

cloutchaser commented on Why ultra-light urban vehicles offer the only viable future for EVs   maddyness.com/uk/2023/01/... · Posted by u/MaxLunn
CalRobert · 3 years ago
Family of 4 here with a Honda Jazz (aka Honda Fit in the US). Doing fine. Grew up in the states as a family of four and for most of my youth we had a Honda Accord - the early 90's ones that were smaller than a Civic is now IIRC.
cloutchaser · 3 years ago
Family of four, with a stroller?

Do you go on multi-day trips, where you need clothes are gear for everyone?

Do you have smaller children's car seats will take up 80% of the back seats?

cloutchaser commented on Why ultra-light urban vehicles offer the only viable future for EVs   maddyness.com/uk/2023/01/... · Posted by u/MaxLunn
dabeeeenster · 3 years ago
Families don't need 2.5 tonne SUVs or 4 seat trucks. They don't need Volvo XC90s or Escalades. Sorry. They just don't.
cloutchaser · 3 years ago
You can only just fit 2 child seats into a smaller car. For anyone with 3 children, anything without 2 rows of back seats is basically an unusable car for the whole family.

And the reason everyone is going on about "car size inflation" and how it was fine in smaller cars 20 years ago is the same reason - you didn't have to use child seats. Now because of safety you literally can't have a family larger than 2 children with a smaller car.

cloutchaser commented on Why ultra-light urban vehicles offer the only viable future for EVs   maddyness.com/uk/2023/01/... · Posted by u/MaxLunn
matsemann · 3 years ago
I hope sizes of cars will be more regulated or heavily taxed. Driving a huge tanks into the city center with lots of pedestrians should be avoided. And the cars growing wider and longer also means the space allocated for them (already too much!) is getting too small. Like many cars can no longer fit the street side parking where I live, and thus use half a meter of the bicycle lane..
cloutchaser · 3 years ago
Spoken like someone without a family. You have no idea how small cars are for even a short trip with a family of 4.
cloutchaser commented on Big Tech is using layoffs to crush worker power   latimes.com/business/tech... · Posted by u/lisper
Apocryphon · 3 years ago
Why hasn't worker pay arisen proportionally, since if they're working for multinationals they are similarly serving millions to billions?

> And they actually did it by putting their money where their mouth was and became shareholders in these companies, at great personal risk to themselves.

Judging by the steady growth in exec comp in Figure A of the second link, it doesn't seem like their efforts were very successful.

cloutchaser · 3 years ago
> Why hasn't worker pay arisen proportionally, since if they're working for multinationals they are similarly serving millions to billions?

They have. In China and other assembly countries. And there’s your ultimate answer for what the actual problem is here. For Americans. Pretty good deal elsewhere.

cloutchaser commented on Big Tech is using layoffs to crush worker power   latimes.com/business/tech... · Posted by u/lisper
AlwaysRock · 3 years ago
Right before COVID-19 stay at home order in Chicago, a bunch of improvisers who preformed at the popular i.o theater put together a list of demands which basically asked for a bunch of changes to make the lives of performers better. They were not going to perform until those changes were made.

The owner didnt respond for a few days and then said, "Hey! Heard you. Great valid concerns. But I'm actually shutting the theater down." i.o was closed for some period of time (1+ year) and then came back. The changes asked for were not made. Performers were happy just to get on stage again.

I think about that a lot when I see people making demands. Sometimes companies can/will just say no or worse find some reason to let the person go. It's frustrating but as the individual its so hard to get any meaningful change when you have no real power.

cloutchaser · 3 years ago
Another way to interpret this story is that the performers were whining and thought they had a bad deal, but when faced with consequences they realised it actually wasn’t a bad deal for them. Words and words. Actions are actions.

u/cloutchaser

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