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pessimist · 2 months ago
Underrated even among physicists. Among the immediate post war generation his contributions are up there with Feynman and Schwinger.

To quote Freeman Dyson: "Professor Yang is, after Einstein and Dirac, the preeminent stylist of the 20th century physics. From his early days as a student in China to his later years as the sage of Stony Brook, he has always been guided in his thinking by a love of exact analysis and formal mathematical beauty. This love led him to his most profound and original contribution to physics, the discovery with Robert Mills of non-Abelian gauge fields. With the passage of time, his discovery of non-Abelian gauge fields is gradually emerging as a greater and more important event than the spectacular discovery of parity non-conservation which earned him the Nobel Prize."

MengerSponge · 2 months ago
The Yang in Yang-Mills is the same Yang as Lee-Yang! Somehow I had those filed as a different generation, where Lee-Yang is "old", and Yang-Mills is "young". I'm an idiot
gsf_emergency_4 · 2 months ago
The path from Lee-Yang to Yang-Mills is short (~months) but the shortness is instructive

(It's more than just a lesson in style, imho. Lee-Yang could become more famous than Yang-Mills, in time! Like you're implying there-- that was a honest mistake on your part; your claim to "idiocy" teaches less than it might seem :).

See this comment which might seem completely throwaway https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45632370)

In the same vein, here is a short-note of Yang, readable to nonscientists, here:

https://doi.org/10.1142/S0217751X03017142

(He rebuts Dyson)

Necessary Subtlety and Unnecessary Subtlety

gsf_emergency_4 · 2 months ago
In order to explain his impact to people, someone could find a friendlier name for "gauge"?

Some say that list of stylists would not be meaningful without von Neumann (although Dyson might say that frogs have no style*)

https://youtu.be/OmaSAG4J6nw?t=24m19s

Please see next slide for a minimal example of a "real(!) gauge field", even if you don't like philosophy of physics.

*https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17457678

MengerSponge · 2 months ago
> friendlier name for "gauge"?

Do you suppose small-gauge railroads are too niche an interest? Or is "gauging" interest not friendly?

It's abstractions all the way down, but the term was coined in its still generally used definition of "scale". To explain the concept to the general public, keep it simple and poetic. If they want to unpack your metaphor, they're going to need a few years of university physics education!

scotty79 · 2 months ago
The word gauge is completely opaque to me, invokes no reasonable connotation.

I always wished they gave this thing a better name but I have no idea what.

kurtis_reed · 2 months ago
How do you know he's underrated?
tasuki · 2 months ago
I think it's so obviously a personal opinion it didn't need explicit mentioning.
dboreham · 2 months ago
Sad news. Perhaps the last connection to OG physics. I was fortunate to meet Dr Yang a few times. Surreal to hear him describe working for Fermi and Oppenheimer and his reaction on hearing about the Hiroshima detonation.

Some of his work: http://home.ustc.edu.cn/~lxsphys/2021-3-18/The%20conceptual%...

And: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang%E2%80%93Mills_theory

kwoff · 2 months ago
(re OG physics) Sheldon Glashow is still around, I think: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Glashow
hammock · 2 months ago
>Surreal to hear him describe working for Fermi and Oppenheimer and his reaction on hearing about the Hiroshima detonation.

What did he have to say?

dboreham · 2 months ago
It was a long time ago but I remember Fermi decided that he (Yang) didn't do well at experimental physics, saying "where there's a Yang, there's a bang". My impression was that the atomic bomb wasn't a surprise, with the idea that when the ship arrived he'd enter a new world as a result. He was Oppenheimer's assistant at Princeton. I don't think I knew that at the time, so he must have told me but I don't recall any details. We also had a discussion about Maxwell but his later article on the subject is a much better source than my fading memory.
occamschainsaw · 2 months ago
There’s a fascinating story about S Chandrasekhar (of Chandrasekhar limit fame) driving 100 miles to teach him every week. Teaching two students, the professor got a Nobel prize and the two students got a Nobel prize.

“ One story in particular illustrates Chandrasekhar's devotion to his science and his students. In the 1940s, while he was based at the University's Yerkes Observatory in Williams Bay, Wis., he drove more than 100 miles round-trip each week to teach a class of just two registered students. Any concern about the cost-effectiveness of such a commitment was erased in 1957, when the entire class -- T.D. Lee and C.N. Yang -- won the Nobel Prize in physics.”

Source: https://chronicle.uchicago.edu/951012/chandra.shtml

mark_l_watson · 2 months ago
Chandrasekhar was a good friend of my father and from my childhood I remember Chandrasekhar and his wife being super-nice people. Thanks for sharing the story about his two students.
max_ · 2 months ago
I came to know of this guy though Jim Simons.

He once "leaked" the idea that Jim Simon's trading success came from his use of ideas called "gauge theory" and "fibre bundles".

I forgot the exact timestamp, but you will have to watch the entire interview to find that segment — https://youtu.be/zVWlapujbfo

bifftastic · 2 months ago
There is a theory connecting gauge theory and finance:

https://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9710148

https://www.amazon.com/Physics-Finance-Modelling-Non-Equilib...

I don't think it's a crackpot theory. The basic idea is that the gauge group is the group of rescalings of the units of money, and arbitrage appears as curvature in the gauge field, i.e. you end up with a net change when you parallel-transport money around a loop in the (discrete) space of assets and time.

Tazerenix · 2 months ago
Simons himself completely disspells this idea in his interview on Numberphile.
nextos · 2 months ago
AFAIK, one of the early hires at RenTech was Leonard Baum, famous for the Baum–Welch Algorithm.

RenTech is quite secretive, but this supports the rumors that simple graphical models for time series were behind some of their trading strategies.

xqcgrek2 · 2 months ago
It's a trivial statement since many equities are correlated on a multidimensional manifold of characteristics. Jim Simons was just early and now rentech is nothing special.
Mistletoe · 2 months ago
This reads like “Newton or Einstein were just early”. That’s the whole thing, being the first person to do it.
specialp · 2 months ago
Rentec is still world renowned after pioneering the quant business 40+ years ago. I don't think the rested on their laurels with some easy thing that they just stumbled on early

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wave_function · 2 months ago
One of the Feynman lectures in physics is about Yang, Lee, and Wu's discovery. I thought it was a great listen:

https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/flptapes.html

#52 Symmetry in physical laws

hoshikihao · 2 months ago
Why didn't they mention them in the lecture notes?
codelieb · 2 months ago
I don't know what "notes" you are referring to, but if you mean the chapters of The Feynman Lectures on Physics, the recordings and photos of Feynman's 2-year Caltech course on Introductory Physics were the source material from which they were made. When these edited versions of Feynman's lectures were created there was no intention of publishing the lecture recordings or photos - indeed there was no intention of publishing them as a book! You can find all the recordings and lecture photos, as well as Feynman's lecture notes and other materials related to The Feynman Lectures on Physics at www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu.
leoh · 2 months ago
This is dope, I had no idea there were recordings of Feynman like this
codelieb · 2 months ago
Yang died very recently. He was 103 years old.
nhatcher · 2 months ago
Of Yang-Mills fame among many other things:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Chen-Ning

RIP

symbolicAGI · 2 months ago
I am a former physics student of C. N. Yang’s at Stony Brook University.

Rest In Peace.

ThomasBHickey · 2 months ago
As an undergraduate in physics in the late 60's, he was just a name on a door. Never saw him.
hufdr · 2 months ago
In addition to the Yang Mills theory, parity nonconservation, phase transition theory, and the Yang Baxter equation, these are also among Yang Zhenning’s important theoretical achievements. Moreover, he has made numerous academic contributions in areas such as the integral formulation of gauge fields and cold atom research.