Readit NewsI have bumped into "the Elm architecture" in other projects though and it was nice.
I'm a backend dev mostly and use Elm for all my frontend needs. Yes there are some things compiler-side that could be improved, but basically it's fine.
I appreciate not having to keep up with new releases!
Elixir is slowly rolling out set-theoretic typing: https://hexdocs.pm/elixir/main/gradual-set-theoretic-types.h...
Why use something complex and half working, when you can have the real thing?
To me it felt less elegant than Scheme (GNU Guile) which I usually use (with nice parallelism if I want to, pipelines, and also pattern matching), and, aside from syntax, conceptually perhaps less elegant than Erlang. On the other hand it has static typing.
I also tried OCaml this year, but there are issues in the ecosystem making a truly reproducible environment/setup, because opam doesn't produce proper lock files (only version numbers) and it seemed silly to not be able to even include another file, without reaching for dune, or having to specify every single file/module on command line for the OCaml compiler. So I was left unsatisfied, even though the language is elegant and I like its ML-ness. I wish there was a large ecosystem around SML, but oh well ...
Might be I should take another look at Erlang soon, or just finally get started with Haskell. Erlang using rebar3 should have proper lock files, has pattern matching, and if I remember correctly no such limitations for calling functions recursively. No longer sure how or whether Erlang did inner functions though.
I like Haskell in theory, but: just to get a hello world takes a lot of CPU and disk space. The standard library is full of exceptions (you can use a different prelude, that opens a whole different can of worms). The ergonomics of converting between the thousand different string types are awful.
So, you being basically me, I have some recommendations:
Idris (2): good stdlib, has dependent types. A beautiful language. The compiler is self-hosted and bootstrapped by lisp - very elegant! The ecosystem is basically nonexistent though.
PureScript: also improves on Haskell in many ways. But, it's more of a frontend language, and though you can do backend, you're stuck with JavaScript runtime. Oh well.
> But you cannot do [first, ..middle, last].
I don't think you're supposed to do that! It's probably expensive!
Since I have made the change, I have not had anyone open any issues saying they had problems running it on their machines. (Unlike when I was using AppImages, which caused much more trouble than I expected)
[0] https://github.com/mmulet/term.everything look at distribute.sh and the makefile to see how I did it.
[1]in a podman or docker container
[2] -ldflags '-extldflags "-static"'
Also, eyesore? What do you have against the EU flag?
I like the EU flag. I do not like the billboards. They just do not look good. Plant an actual flag there instead? I'd prefer that!
That's simply not true, the EU subsidy budget is dwarfed by each country's national budget. From https://eubudget.europarl.europa.eu/en/how-it-works/ :
The EU budget [..] accounts annually for around 1% of the EU's GNI (gross national income), or around €160-180 billion. National public spending by EU countries averages nearly 50% of their respective GNI.
I'm not sure I understand your comment tbh. Where does the money come from, if not from EU taxpayers?
> the EU subsidy budget is dwarfed by each country's national budget.
My comment had nothing to do with that.
The page you linked has a question "How is the budget funded", which lists the revenues:
> Another difference between the EU budget and national budgets is that the EU lacks direct taxation power to finance its budget and instead relies on revenues called “own resources”.
> These revenues are:
> - Custom duties on imports into the EU
> - A small part of the VAT collected by each EU country
> - A contribution based on the amount of non-recycled plastic waste in each EU country
> - National contribution from each EU country based on its gross national income (GNI). All member states contribute according to their share in the combined GNI of EU countries. This is the largest share of the own resources.
I'd say all of that comes from the EU taxpayers.
I can't believe this is still up tbh. And I can't believe there's still people defending Elm's lack of development
> It’s true that there hasn’t been a new release of the Elm compiler for some time. That’s on purpose: it’s essentially feature-complete.
Last talk I saw by Evan Czaplicki (from the 2025 Scala Days conf) he seemed to be working on some sort of database language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OtN4iiFBsQ
Why? (I'm one such person defending Elm's lack of development)