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jaredwiener · 19 days ago
It should hopefully go without saying that as shocking as this is, this is not the legally binding version of the Constitution. Nor is it the only version hosted on a US Government website.

NARA's, for example, still seems complete: https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcri...

So is the Senate's: https://www.senate.gov/about/origins-foundations/senate-and-...

hn_throwaway_99 · 19 days ago
I don't think it's shocking at all. It's a fuckup, so what? All of the conspiracy theories and online discourse around this just show how stupid most conspiracy theories are and how braindead so much online discourse has become.

Just look at the Reddit thread on this, which currently has nearly 50k votes, and one of the top comments is "Treasonous", https://old.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1mj3ttx/constitution_o.... Like I wholeheartedly believe that the current administration may want to (and, IMO, already has) subvert large parts of the Constitution, but deleting a few paragraphs from the Library of Congress' online version of the Constitution is not how they're going to go about it. What, do people not think there are, I don't know, a couple million copies of the Constitution out and about? Do they think some judge is just going to open the Library of Congress website and go "Oh well, I know that part was there yesterday, but it's gone now so I guess we can't have a navy anymore."

It's all just so dumb.

estearum · 19 days ago
No one is supposing this is the way they'll do it, only that this could be a way they do it. As you've already suggested, they're also already doing it other ways.

There's a reason authoritarian regimes are known for destroying and modifying records. It's because they often destroy and modify records.

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lukeman · 19 days ago
Library of Congress ack’d and is saying this was a “coding error” and will be fixed soon.

https://x.com/librarycongress/status/1953109733633597634?s=4...

esafak · 19 days ago
I wonder if an LLM was involved.
potato3732842 · 19 days ago
Be cool if we got a PM. It'd be interesting to see what's going on behind the scenes on the Library of Congress website.

Of course government doesn't work that way so we'll never see anything.

eqvinox · 19 days ago
It's a bit odd that the deletion starts midway through section 8. In a perfect world I'd first assume a software bug, then an accident, then incompetency. In the current political climate, … I don't even know what to think.
mmastrac · 19 days ago
It's an interesting chunk to remove. Some highlights:

The President could command the armed forces without statutory limits. The Writ of Habeas Corpus could be suspended at any time, even without rebellion or invasion. Congress would no longer have exclusive legislative control over Washington, D.C. or military installations.

The executive could spend from the Treasury without congressional approval. The executive branch could favour certain ports or states in commerce, allowing economic favouritism, punishing or rewarding states.

The federal government might override state-level agreements without needing to respect boundaries. Congress would lose its broad enabling clause to legislate on powers not explicitly listed elsewhere.

The funny part: this means that states could create their own militaries, treaties, or currencies. So in theory that would grant the power for a far-more-independent California state that would have an easier time seceding.

rsynnott · 19 days ago
> this means that states could create their own militaries, treaties, or currencies.

Also issue letters of marque!

tptacek · 19 days ago
Nobody removed anything from the Constitution. Someone removed a chunk of a website about the Constitution. Rhode Island doesn't get to form its own Navy now, sorry.
mindslight · 19 days ago
> The funny part: this means that states could create their own militaries, treaties, or currencies. So in theory that would grant the power for a far-more-independent California state that would have an easier time seceding.

This is getting mentioned like it would be some downside in the traditional red vs blue paradigm, but if you view this through the lens where this administration is working to break up the United States, it's right on brand.

Any such military development would also serve as grounds for escalation, and as we've already seen the actual laws don't matter but rather it's all about how they can manage public opinion through sensationalist trolling. California delenda est has been a rallying cry for decades now, so I wouldn't assume one instance of the National Guard being deployed against the People is going to be the end of it.

BriggyDwiggs42 · 19 days ago
I think it’s a little wink wink to the base. They do cute shit like that every now and then.
panarchy · 19 days ago
Yup "It's just a software bug! Don't be dramatic!" Yeah. A software bug that just happens to cover the part of the constitution the current administration has been criticized over violating and other parts that just happen to be in line with the war (like "war on drugs"-- well until it potentially escalates) on the blue states they've been alluding to? As if the current regime wouldn't be so blatant as to point to a website version of the constitution and then go "See it's not in the constitution. We did nothing wrong, all the media outlets reporting the constitution has been illegally altered are spreading fake news." Then there will be a flurry of articles "Trump is in shock at what people are saying he did" for two weeks and then the next disaster will have arrived where the same fanfare will be repeated and nothing will actually be done.
AlexandrB · 19 days ago
What about the "current political climate" is exceptional compared to - for example - the jingoistic garbage we got in 2002? Just look at the crap we were being fed back then to convince us to go to war: https://lukebennett13.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/...
ndsipa_pomu · 18 days ago
I believe this is the only time that a convicted felon and rapist has become president of the USA.
eqvinox · 19 days ago
I'm sorry but it appears our world perceptions are sufficiently misaligned to make discourse difficult and HN comments aren't a reasonable place to work through such a misalignment.

(= I can't easily rationalize a view that doesn't see the current state as exceptional.)

potato3732842 · 19 days ago
They truncated Article 1 starting with "To provide and maintain a Navy" (which is a really weird place to start) with no other diff highlighted. I'm gonna file this one under incompetence rather than malice.
tptacek · 19 days ago
They erased the No Preference For Ports clause! Clearly the start of something big.
edgineer · 19 days ago
mmastrac · 19 days ago
Creating a constitutional crisis by digitally memory-holing the existing constitution is an interesting approach. I don't recall any regimes attempting this in the past.
tptacek · 19 days ago
Just noting for posterity that on August 6 2025 people believed you could create a "constitutional crisis" by removing pages from the LOC's online annotated constitution. You all get that we have the original handwritten constitution, right?
atonse · 19 days ago
My heart goes out to the poor dev that's having to fix this ASAP while multiple stressed out managers keep calling and asking for an update, before it becomes a completely unnecessary news cycle.
0cf8612b2e1e · 19 days ago
Uhh it is text? Unless there is some astronaut engineering in place, this is a copy and paste, one minute job. Or (optimistically) a revert.
potato3732842 · 19 days ago
I bet the text is right on the backend and something is screwing it up between the source (don't wanna use the word "origin" here because that would imply things about their architecture that I don't know are true) and the systems that spew it upon any web browser that asks.
atonse · 19 days ago
Even if it's text, I guarantee you there are way too many angry and stressed phone calls going around.

The amount of actual work might be X, but the amount of emails, calls, status checks, etc is probably 50X.

wheaties · 19 days ago
Why would they remove Habeus Corpus?

"The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."

hightrix · 19 days ago
To detain political opponents without cause or proof. To do the same to critics, comics, anyone that has ever posted/said anything negative about the admin, and on and on.

Removal of Habeus Corpus means you can be detained without cause, and you do not get a chance to defend yourself.

This is what dictators do.

tptacek · 19 days ago
For the same reason they removed the Navy.
potato3732842 · 19 days ago
There's probably a few guys at in a shipyard who checked twitter during lunch and are cracking jokes about spending the afternoon fishing or whatever while putting on a bunch of hot PPE right about now.
mindslight · 19 days ago
They sold off habeas corpus to OceanGate?
mindslight · 19 days ago
Dead, like habeas corpus rigor mortis.
temp0826 · 19 days ago
Carpe corpus, ad mortem
cestith · 19 days ago
Great quote.
genter · 19 days ago
Makes it easier to deport anyone that isn't white.
dylan604 · 19 days ago
But the threat of deporting white people has been levied as well.