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sebtron · 6 months ago
Weird that you can even say "no". Usually the options are "yes" and "keep asking this until I click yes by accident".
rzzzt · 6 months ago
They might change the "no" to "maybe later" later.
kotaKat · 6 months ago
It’s assault by Google, as usual.

Some engineer probably finally got a little too much mace on a date and had to accept a “no” for once.

Jensson · 6 months ago
Its not engineers deciding these things.
JimDabell · 6 months ago
This is a ridiculous article. There is a setting that lets Gemini learn from your data. This is not a setting to control whether Gemini can access your messages at all. Switching that setting off is not saying no to letting it control your messages and calls. It’s saying no to letting it learn from them. There is another setting you can use to disable access entirely.
greatgib · 6 months ago
I got the notification from Google about that and that made me think that they really are now a bunch of assholes with a top big joint monopoly with Apple.

The notification indeed says that even if you turned everything off, they will allow themselves in your messages, especially WhatsApp messages that are not normally part of Google or Android. And even if it looks like that the option to disable that exist, they don't tell you about that in the notification. It looks like that you have no choice.

To be clear, what I mean by that is that they only say: If you don’t want to use these features, you can turn them off in the Apps settings page.

But what it means "in the Apps" settings page? Does it means a settings in each individual app that my prostitute itself to Gemini?and if yes, which exact apps should I go to, to do this manual process that I don't asked for?

p1anecrazy · 6 months ago
Clickbait.

> Gemini now has a second set of toggles buried in its settings menu. You can go to Profile → Apps inside the Gemini app and manually disable access to Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, or Utilities. But these are turned on by default, even if you’ve disabled tracking in the past.

spacemadness · 6 months ago
They really get you with those headlines don’t they? “Google arguably makes Gemini scraping and control confusing to turn off” isn’t quite the same.
genman · 6 months ago
Perhaps exaggerated, but the point remains - saying No has been made considerably harder for a regular user.
ffsm8 · 6 months ago
i strongly disagree with p1anecrazy original claim that this was clickbait.

I wouldn't even call that exaggerated whatsoever given these circumstances. If you say no, it still has access to them. the headline in no way claims that there is no way to disable access (likely temporarily) - it just says that if you disabled access before, gemini will still get access now.

> But these are turned on by default, even if you’ve disabled tracking in the past.

ttctciyf · 6 months ago
Can we say "enshAItification"?
kebokyo · 6 months ago
I’m surprised by how much this article reads like an opinion piece even though it isn’t.

As generative AI becomes harder to ignore, broader in scope, and even more dominant as a business trend… the people whose jobs are to write about how generative AI affects our lives have just had enough. They’re smart enough to see the writing on the wall, and now they’re trying desperately to transfer that writing onto their pages.

BiteCode_dev · 6 months ago
You can't use gemini if you are not logged in into a google account.

This is one more good reason to never sign in on your android phone.

It's not as good as using graphene, but it's easier, less work, and you can't brick your phone.

The drawback, of course, is that you can't use your map, youtube or gmail account since signing in in any of those logs in the entire device.

But with microg, fdroid and aurora, it's very practical.

askl · 6 months ago
How about just not having the Gemini app installed?

That seems even easier to do and also lets you continue using the actually useful google products.

surgical_fire · 6 months ago
That's how I solved it so far.

That will only work until Google makes it impossible to uninstall.

frabcus · 6 months ago
Presumably you can use them all in a browser?
BiteCode_dev · 6 months ago
If you attempt to gmail sign in from chrome, it will sign in your chrome account (https://www.mattcrampton.com/blog/sign-into-gmail-without-si...), which will, if you have no account on your phone, sign in your phone.

Tricky little buggar that one.

Still easier to avoid than rooting, but easy to get wrong by mistake.

tasuki · 6 months ago
Can they just make my Android (Google) keyboard work? I use three languages, and the dictionaries for the languages other than English are missing basic conjugations. Can Gemini perhaps help me type the next word? I been waiting for years!
zx8080 · 6 months ago
Sorry it doesn't driving their ads revenue up.