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Double blind randomized controlled trial or it didn't happen. The subjects have to fill a form. It's common that people want to be nice and lie a little. Also, the exitement of the experiment may make them less focused in the problem, or there may be many other additional effects that are dificult to control. A DBRCT minimize them.
Under capitalism, what do you want? If you went and put in a bunch of your own time, money, and effort into something, is asking for something back so you can put food on the table so reprehensible? I mean, I'd love it if I were independently wealthy and could go off and do a mission like that and just give it away for free, but some of us didn't get a trust fund and have bills to pay and so, is that really so ridiculous?
Using the heavy hand of the state to threaten violence against people who make a particular tone... yes that is really so ridiculous.
The tone is question is quite close to G2. So, if your guitar is slightly sharp, you'll be making this tone when playing one of the most common chords.
If I discovered that oxygen cured diabetes I couldn't just patent oxygen. This is a discovery (if it ever holds up) that a sound makes you feel a certain way, the authors didn't invent anything
You cannot have a government with a high interest and stake in national security without bringing up all of those 16 identified "critical infrastructure sectors" with you.
CVEs are almost a starting point of truth. The threats can be verified, tested against/for, etc.
They're also tied up in insurance liabilities.
If there are no CVEs, there will be no cyber security insurance.
IP rights are a government legal construction. Legal constructions should be designed to best serve a societal purpose. In this case, a careful balance between the need to preserve incentive, and the need to prevent the many downsides associated with IP protection.
This is a university press release, so they first refer to a registered trademark, which I assume means they're trying to make money off it through licensing agreements:
> a unique sound called 'sound spice®'
Only at the very bottom of the release do they actually give any technical details:
> a pure tone at 100 Hz
The linked study gives more details:
> 1-min exposure to a pure tone of 80–85 dBZ (= 60.9–65.9 dBA) at 100 Hz
Probably because dB SPL doesn't match A-weighted human perceptual audiogram, so they're being specific? (I get that you could just translate it to dB SPL but still.)
Kind of feel like it'll be hard to replicate the volume accurately, even when assuming headphones. The maximum output would depend both on the phone itself and the headphones. Wonder how specific it would have to be, if you'll get the same results with different volumes.
Story time: My parents bought an anti motion sickness thing. It was a rubber band with metal core hanging from the car’s chassis to the ground.
It worked for my brother! But at some point I asked my parents: but how can this work then!? What does it do with “motion “?
My parents told me to be silent and later, when my brother couldn’t hear, told me it was just to release static electricity but they told my brother it was against motion sickness and him believing that made it work for him.
It's the same when it comes to medication: if you believe it will help you, there is a big chance you will heal even quicker. Trusting the doctor who prescribed the medication also plays a role in healing.
This seems quite promising: an effective treatment for a problem that frequently assails many people, and a treatment which is so simple and easy to apply.
In fact, it seems so promising, that it raises my hackles of suspicion. I would very much like to see other researchers replicate this. I am automatically more skeptical than I would be of most research because if humming a certain note were an effective treatment for motion sickness, then it would be rather surprising that people had not already discovered this property -- possibly just by listening to various pieces of music.
Just as research which suggests a surprising outcome or one inconsistent with existing theories must meet a higher bar, so too does research which suggests a simple cure that it was already possible for people to stumble across.
I was on a ROUGH ferry ride between some islands in Southeast Asia once. It was packed and nearly everyone succumbed to puking. Even if it's minimally effective, I feel like playing this over the speakers in the common areas would have been welcomed.
If a specific tone can decrease the incidence of nausea and vomiting I wouldn't be surprised if rough seas combined with typical diesel engine sounds (frequency / harmonics - whatever the correct terminology is) increases the incidence of nausea and vomiting.
Afaik this isn't a new idea. This has been studied previously in the context of VR motion sickness.[0] There is a company called Otolith Labs making these kind of devices.[1] They seem to have pivoted from VR to curing chronic vertigo.
And they really are nauseating. I put aftermarket springs on my car that were only supposed to lower it an inch, and instead got 2.5" of nauseating, pavement-slamming sag. Removed those with a quickness.
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I'm gonna wait for a much better study reproducing this before I put any stock in it, personally.
There are multiple experiments with 82 total participants. One of those experiments does indeed have a sample size of 10.
Yup, this is still “wait and see”. For these kinds of papers my stance is: “cool read, I won’t click the share button”.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdi0jQtMqV8&pp
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Using the heavy hand of the state to threaten violence against people who make a particular tone... yes that is really so ridiculous.
The tone is question is quite close to G2. So, if your guitar is slightly sharp, you'll be making this tone when playing one of the most common chords.
CVEs are almost a starting point of truth. The threats can be verified, tested against/for, etc.
They're also tied up in insurance liabilities.
If there are no CVEs, there will be no cyber security insurance.
Follow the rabbit hole.
> a unique sound called 'sound spice®'
Only at the very bottom of the release do they actually give any technical details:
> a pure tone at 100 Hz
The linked study gives more details:
> 1-min exposure to a pure tone of 80–85 dBZ (= 60.9–65.9 dBA) at 100 Hz
It worked for my brother! But at some point I asked my parents: but how can this work then!? What does it do with “motion “?
My parents told me to be silent and later, when my brother couldn’t hear, told me it was just to release static electricity but they told my brother it was against motion sickness and him believing that made it work for him.
At the time this was pretty shocking to me.
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In fact, it seems so promising, that it raises my hackles of suspicion. I would very much like to see other researchers replicate this. I am automatically more skeptical than I would be of most research because if humming a certain note were an effective treatment for motion sickness, then it would be rather surprising that people had not already discovered this property -- possibly just by listening to various pieces of music.
Just as research which suggests a surprising outcome or one inconsistent with existing theories must meet a higher bar, so too does research which suggests a simple cure that it was already possible for people to stumble across.
[0] https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjourn...
[1] https://otolithlabs.com/nvrt-technology/
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They are just trying to alleviate motion sickness from those old suspensions.
And they really are nauseating. I put aftermarket springs on my car that were only supposed to lower it an inch, and instead got 2.5" of nauseating, pavement-slamming sag. Removed those with a quickness.