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nandomrumber commented on Total surface area required to fuel the world with solar (2009)   landartgenerator.org/blag... · Posted by u/robtherobber
adrianN · a day ago
I fail to see how the blame is on renewable energy and how burning more fossil fuels would help in that situation.
nandomrumber · 9 hours ago
The cost of coal and gas to the Australian market could effectively be covered by royalties collected from exporters of same.

Australia could be a manufacturing powerhouse off the back of very steeply subsidised energy. China does it.

But instead we seem to be bent on whatever the fuck this is supped to be?

Energy so expensive ya can’t use it.

nandomrumber commented on Total surface area required to fuel the world with solar (2009)   landartgenerator.org/blag... · Posted by u/robtherobber
perilunar · 2 days ago
In Australia we have so much solar that wholesale electricity prices are often negative during the day. Despite that we still have high retail prices. Domestic battery installations are getting popular and will help.

See: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-02-08/big-swings-in-austral...

nandomrumber · a day ago
I don’t understand what you’re trying to say here.

How do domestic battery installations help with the retail price of electricity?

nandomrumber commented on Total surface area required to fuel the world with solar (2009)   landartgenerator.org/blag... · Posted by u/robtherobber
adrianN · a day ago
If somebody comes up with a way to produce wheat cheaply, do you blame them for high bread prices?
nandomrumber · a day ago
Energy retailers in Australia are literally just a billing interface and a poor excuse for a call centre.

They’re not really adding value in the same way a farm & associated agribusiness > harvest > global storage and distribution > mill > commercial scale bakery > distribution > retail outlet does.

This reminds me of an amusing comment I read or heard the other day: eggs are now more expensive than chickens. Somethings not right there. And it’s mostly higher costs of energy, and extremely stupid egg production regulations.

nandomrumber commented on Total surface area required to fuel the world with solar (2009)   landartgenerator.org/blag... · Posted by u/robtherobber
adrianN · 2 days ago
Except for solar panels. If the corn is subsidized, then the land is not economically productive right now.
nandomrumber · 2 days ago
Realistically, can we expect anyone to want to build out solar without subsidies?
nandomrumber commented on Total surface area required to fuel the world with solar (2009)   landartgenerator.org/blag... · Posted by u/robtherobber
Retric · 2 days ago
Retail prices obscure the underlying economics via taxes and subsidies.

Here the wholesale prices are far more relevant economically.

nandomrumber · 2 days ago
Indeed.

Still, what good is free energy to anyone if the retail price has only one trajectory.

If politics is a significant cost factor, no amount of technology is going to fix that.

Or, as Jimmy Carr put it: But you go, yeah, you can have net zero, as long as you don't give a fuck about poor people, right? If you don't give a fuck about poor people, of course we can do net zero. - https://youtu.be/H3FwqPkPSHE

nandomrumber commented on Total surface area required to fuel the world with solar (2009)   landartgenerator.org/blag... · Posted by u/robtherobber
burnt-resistor · 2 days ago
Yep. 5% of all US land is dedicated to just growing subsidized corn.
nandomrumber · 2 days ago
Most of that land probably isn’t useful for much else, in a productive economic sense.
nandomrumber commented on Total surface area required to fuel the world with solar (2009)   landartgenerator.org/blag... · Posted by u/robtherobber
dalyons · 2 days ago
The square km the US uses to grow corn for ethanol is about ~~ 1/3rd the total global area required for solar in this article. Ethanol that is a gigantic waste of resources.

They seem like big numbers until you compare it with the enormity of what we already do.

nandomrumber · 2 days ago
The USA grows something more like 121,000 square kilometres of corn for ethanol.

Or about 30 million acres if you’re in to that sort of thing.

https://www.wri.org/insights/increased-biofuel-production-im...

nandomrumber commented on Total surface area required to fuel the world with solar (2009)   landartgenerator.org/blag... · Posted by u/robtherobber
AnotherGoodName · 2 days ago
A long article, about rising prices driven by fossil fuel costs but also a lot of positivity as you read towards the end and a sudden sharp downturn that’s coming to Australias power prices. Australia’s wholesale power prices halved in q4 2025 due to massive solar and battery investment that on a per capita basis dwarfs china. Australia is now over 50% renewables. It’s set to accelerate too.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-02-08/big-swings-in-austral...

So at least one continent in this picture is making great progress to achieving this.

nandomrumber · 2 days ago
> wholesale power prices halved

Who cares?

No one pays the wholesale price.

What price does the retail customer pay?

nandomrumber commented on British drivers over 70 to face eye tests every three years   bbc.com/news/articles/c20... · Posted by u/bookofjoe
steveBK123 · 2 days ago
Across the western world, elderly benefits increasingly outstrip the growth young workers paying taxes for their benefits are able to eke out. I do not think they need free taxis as well.

For UK in particular look up triple lock pension.

nandomrumber · 2 days ago
London also has the highest number of non-citizens staying in four star hotels on the tax payers dime.

I think the elderly former tax payers can have all the taxi vouchers they can reasonably use.

They just need to mutter “asylum seeker” occasionally.

nandomrumber commented on British drivers over 70 to face eye tests every three years   bbc.com/news/articles/c20... · Posted by u/bookofjoe
boelboel · 2 days ago
I wouldn't say over 70 year olds, average 70 year old is fine. Problem gets a lot worse at 75 or 80. Most these people don't drive nearly as much as younger people anyway.

My grandma is 90 and drives 5 miles to the grocery store, a slow road. I don't think she'd pass a driving test but she drives during the day when barely anyone is on the road, chances of serious injury are nil.

Is it worth it to spend large amounts of money on testing these people, taking their license away if they fail? Getting rid of their car will force them to replace it with someone else driving or cycling which could be a problem in many places. Worst case scenario they'll need to go in a retirement home.

nandomrumber · 2 days ago
Maybe less of an issue if they’re given taxi vouchers to the value of about the typical amount of driving they would have done?

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