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nh23423fefe · 9 months ago
> "geforce is sold out all over the world"

not a flex

accrual · 9 months ago
Agree. It's a terrible time to want a new Nvidia card for gaming or AI projects. I had a 4070 Ti Super in my cart for a while at a cool $700 on Amazon - now it's out of stock and secondhand I can find it for double that now.

If one doesn't require the latest DLSS or need first-class AI support, get an AMD card.

SV_BubbleTime · 9 months ago
AMD’s is coming up in support for things like torch and xformers. But it isn’t there yet.

If you want for AI, your best bet is a used 3090 for $700-800. The ram is more important and that card is still faster than a 4070.

colonCapitalDee · 9 months ago
Thankfully the ONNX runtime supports AMD's ROCm. The performance is nowhere close to Nvidia's TensorRT, but doing inference on an AMD GPU is doable. I haven't ran the numbers, but I wouldn't be surprised if you could get more throughput per dollar on an AMD GPU for at least some scenarios. AFAIK there aren't any great options for training though, so if you want to do anything besides running ONNX models your options are limited.
timtom123 · 9 months ago
easy to do when you don't ship any cards :P
spullara · 9 months ago
oddly just bought one (5090) right after you posted this so not quite true
KeplerBoy · 9 months ago
For how much? In Europe they are in stock. For 3500€. For the MSRP, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
AuryGlenz · 9 months ago
I’ve been trying since release with stock notifications and have barely had the chance to even try to add one to a cart.
colonelspace · 9 months ago
> "we've left money on the table because we can't manage our supply chain. Oh, and we've pissed off an entire market segment."
dralley · 9 months ago
It's probably false to say they're leaving money on the table. They'd be leaving a lot more money on the table if they allocated chips towards consumer gaming GPUs instead of maxing out the server AI/GPU compute segment. The entire gaming market constitutes like 15%-or-less of their revenue nowadays.

And Nvidia has enough mindshare that they could piss on consumers for the next 3 release cycles and still have more than half the market. I don't like it but it's reality.

PeterStuer · 9 months ago
Yep, all 10 they shipped sold instantly at 2x MSRP. Prices on 3090's (not a typo) are going up ffs, because there is nothing out there on the NVIDIA front.
incognito124 · 9 months ago
My 3090 Ti appreciated in price for about 20% in 2 years (1300->1600)

nVidia GPUs have basically been an inflation hedge for the past few years lol

renewiltord · 9 months ago
This is sick. Lucky I kept mine https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42618996
fransje26 · 9 months ago
Or quite a flex. If you want to create artificial scarcity to keep your prices high.

Reminds me of the current egg "crisis".

ecshafer · 9 months ago
Egg production fell because of avian flu, which the US has regulatory restrictions limiting the usage of the vaccine in agriculture compared to other developed nations. Its not an intentional crisis.
ecshafer · 9 months ago
NVidia doesn't make the chips, they just design them, so it is a flex. People are literally buying their cards faster than they can be produced. TSMC is building new fabs to make more nvidia chips faster.
atq2119 · 9 months ago
NVidia decide how they allocate their wafer starts at TSMC. Consumer chips have lower margin than datacenter parts, so they almost certainly allocated comparatively little volume to consumer chips.

On the one hand, this is a great situation to be in for Nvidia in terms of overall revenue.

On the other hand, this has allowed AMD to grab market share with the RX 9000 series launch, at least in the short term. So the narrow point that Geforce is sold out is decidedly not a flex.

whywhywhywhy · 9 months ago
Literally the worst thing about Nvidia is the fact they don’t take the core product end to end serious enough.

The idea it’s hard to buy a standard Nvidia GPU in the consumer lineup is absurd.

cdfuller · 9 months ago
GTC stands for GPU Technology Conference, for anybody else who wasn't familiar with the acronym. Surprisingly they don't have it spelled out anywhere on the homepage.
queuebert · 9 months ago
While we're at it, what does Nvidia mean?
bcatanzaro · 9 months ago
It means “envy” in Latin and Spanish etc. Which is why the logo is an acid green evil eye. And why NVIDIA’s headquarters are two buildings named “ENdeavor” and “Voyager”.
wewewedxfgdf · 9 months ago
Nvidia has lost the hearts and minds - I'm not just not interested in or excited by anything Nvidia - there's a baseline expectation of their products being overpriced and aimed at stiffing the customer.

An outcome of greed.

numba888 · 9 months ago
what's the better alternative, DIY AMD? No, thanks. I'm interested in the result, not the process. In terms of robotic software there is just nobody close. Any attempt to port it to different hardware will be just a big pain and limited result at best. So NVidia looks to be the way to go till China catches up.
singularity2001 · 9 months ago
for basic AI and inference mac studios with 512 GB of ram can be a good alternative
comeonbro · 9 months ago
"Nobody goes there nowadays, it's too crowded"
artemonster · 9 months ago
honestly, seeing a company that craps so hard on a core customer group still succeed THAT much just because of some random trends is just sad. and yet people are still willing and continue to vote with their wallets (as the comment below was proving). what a mess
andrepd · 9 months ago
They're really the luckiest bastards lol. First crypto, then the "AI" craze...
baobabKoodaa · 9 months ago
The video glitches out at 2:14:30 where Jensen would be introducing DGX Spark and Station. Does anyone have a link to a working video for that segment?
adrian_b · 9 months ago
The specifications are at:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/products/workstations/dgx-spark...

DGX Spark has the same memory as AMD Strix Halo, a weaker CPU, but perhaps a stronger GPU, except that for now there is no data about the GPU, besides that it might be stronger for AI inference (only FP4 speed is given). For now it is not known whether for graphics it will be better than Strix Halo.

While DGX Spark might be weaker than AMD Strix Halo for anything else except AI Inference, it will still be stronger than any mini-PC made with Intel Arrow Lake H or with AMD Strix Point.

canucker2016 · 9 months ago
CPU specs from the nVidia page above:

20 core Arm, 10 Cortex-X925 + 10 Cortex-A725 Arm

Anandtech's 2024 article about the X925 & A725 Arm cpu cores:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/21399/arm-unveils-2024-cpu-co...

KeplerBoy · 9 months ago
I'm somewhat surprised they are not explicitly mentioning the networking capabilities. There should be two QSFP(?) ports but they don't mention if their speeds and supported protocols (possibly not just Ethernet but also infiniband, but probably not).

Could be 2x200 Gbit/s, could also be much less.

KeplerBoy · 9 months ago
It will be better than strix halo. Even the Orin AGX GPU is better than strix halo and that is Ampere.
baobabKoodaa · 9 months ago
NVIDIA uploaded the missing part in a separate upload now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p4U1kSiegg
lousken · 9 months ago
I feel like I am seeing same stuff every year for like half a decade Self driving cars? Simulations? Robots? What's changed?
comeonbro · 9 months ago
You seem to have somehow missed one of the most significant advancements in human history suddenly exploding out of the pages of science fiction and fundamentally altering our existence forever. Minor oversight.
mepian · 9 months ago
Ah yes, a chat bot that is consistently failing to do such advanced tasks as counting letters in words is definitely life-changing, right next to the metaverse and NFTs.
tim333 · 9 months ago
It's all getting better though, especially the robots seem to be coming along.

Compare the Disney robots at the end of 2024 and 2025

2040: https://youtu.be/Y2F8yisiS6E?t=6968

2025: https://youtu.be/_waPvOwL9Z8?t=9042

lousken · 9 months ago
I mean it's a cool demo, but it doesn't really show anything meaningful
nmstoker · 9 months ago
Some interesting points but he seems a bit less polished and confident than usual.
canucker2016 · 9 months ago
At 32:30, Jensen Huang mentions that he's not following a script and he's not using a teleprompter.
numba888 · 9 months ago
2 hours in, don't see anything about Digits, their 'personal supercomputer'. Did I miss something?
Rooster61 · 9 months ago
The stream cut out for the main debut, but it showed up later once it came back. It's called DGX Spark

Very unfortunate time for it to cut out

numba888 · 9 months ago
It looks to be the whole line with different performance. But no dates and times
nialv7 · 9 months ago
DGX Spark only has 273 GB/s memory bandwidth?! Massive disappointment, this is just on par with Framework's desktop PC.
Gracana · 9 months ago
That's what everybody was predicting based on the memory technology and the pictures. I'm just glad to hear about DGX Station, though I doubt I'll be able to afford one.
numba888 · 9 months ago
> glad to hear about DGX Station

how much is it expected, my guess barely fits in 5 digits. Would be nice to have something in between Spark and Station. I.e. some desktop withing $20K.

canucker2016 · 9 months ago
theVerge article says the DGX Spark will cost US$3K, about the same ballpark range as the Framework desktop with the maxed out 128GB RAM option.

https://www.theverge.com/news/631957/nvidia-dgx-spark-statio...

10Gb vs 5Gb Ethernet

1 HDMI 2.1, 4 x USB TypeC vs 1 HDMI 2.1, 2 Displayport, 2 USB TypeC

nialv7 · 9 months ago
I think most people (including me) were expecting 384-bit and ~400G/s. Can't believe they went with 256.