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Posted by u/bitreducer a year ago
LinkedIn is the worst social media I've ever seen
Besides being full of AI-generated, useless content, the platform is also riddled with dark patterns.

I'm a newcomer, I’d never used LinkedIn before until I joined three months ago. Since then, I've been banned twice and shadow-banned several times.

1) Right after I created my account, I got shadow-banned. My friends couldn’t find me, and my profile wasn’t accessible via direct link. This issue wasn’t resolved until I contacted support; they confirmed that restrictions had been placed on my account and then removed them.

2) I shouldn’t even have to mention this, but as a professional in my field, after that incident I always ended up on the very last pages of search results for keywords related to my field. People without those keywords in their resumes, or whose work isn’t at all related to the field, kept being ranked ahead of me. I can’t say I was deliberately pessimized, but that’s exactly how it appears.

3) Some time later, I decided to get Premium and paid with my own card (issued in another country, with the same name as on my profile and my passport). That’s when I received the first restriction: I was locked out of my account and couldn’t sign in until I contacted support. They made me take a photo of myself and of my passport, and after that they lifted the restrictions and apologized.

4) Everything seemed to be going along normally, yet I remained stuck on the last pages of search, being outranked by completely irrelevant profiles, until I decided to write a post about my own article on Medium. Immediately after publishing the post with a link to Medium, I received a second restriction. I was locked out of my account, couldn’t access my messages or interview invitations, and even missed a call because of this. They once again required me to submit a photo of myself along with a copy of my passport. Although they eventually restored my account, this time the process took 4–5 days, which caused me to miss an interview.

5) Now my profile is accessible via direct link, but I’ve disappeared from search. No one can find me, and hardly anyone visits my page. My post was hidden while support was "sorting out" my account, and I lost all the potential post views it would have gained because it wasn't featured in the recommendations.

All of this happened within the first three months of using LinkedIn. I’ve never seen a more appalling social media, one so full of dark patterns and outright abuse towards its users, forcing them through humiliating identity verification processes and hiding them from search.

Needless to say, I have never violated any of the platform’s rules. I don’t spam, I don’t bother people, and I don’t advertise anything. Meanwhile, my friend, whose account is over five years old—can do whatever he wants. He uses VPNs, changes his profile location several times a week, and switches his VPN location from Dubai to Europe multiple times a day without ever facing any restrictions.

And yes, I completely forgot to add: when your account gets restricted, it doesn’t matter whether you’re a premium user or not — the treatment is equally poor and the response is equally slow.

I’ve never seen a worse social media, and I’d be thrilled if a worthy competitor to LinkedIn ever emerged, I’d be one of the first to join.

BONUS: This content was originally posted on reddit, quickly became popular in the LinkedIn subreddit and was then deleted by moderator who works for M$ (which owns LinkedIn). Frankly, it feels like the whole LinkedIn subreddit is highly censored by him.

silisili · a year ago
LI has to be among the worst social media. The amount of constant self aggrandizing and obviously fabricated stories is insane(cue 'that homeless man was my boss!' memes).

That said, it's not completely valueless. I keep it around to see what old coworkers are up to these days(career wise). I've also gotten a job from a recruiter who found me there. I'm guessing one or both of those are the only reasons anyone keeps it around. The content is pretty bad.

pram · a year ago
It's absolutely the worst, the posts are pure cancer. But I've got like 5 of my 7 jobs over the past 15 years from LI. In conclusion, it is a land of contrasts.
mcv · a year ago
This is the only reason people are on LunkedIn. It's terrible, but somehow successful for finding work.
epolanski · a year ago
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I'm in ER, my father has just died.

This is what it thought me about B2B sales.

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quintes · a year ago
Amazing great work!

EPolanski is one of the best b2b sales people in the universe!

#goodtogreat

— /s of course :)

JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B · a year ago
Why don’t you unfollow people without removing the connection? It’s easy. I have zero fake story in my feed, only my IRL friends. I really don’t understand why people complain about that all the time. LinkedIn may suck, but they don’t push random people on your front page.
omarhaneef · a year ago
If you found even a single job off of it, doesn’t that mean it’s great? This is its main purpose.

Perhaps it could be better, but a lot of people would pay a lot for a single good job offer. And you accepted it.

ToucanLoucan · a year ago
I found my dream (and current) job via a recruiter who messaged me on LI. I couldn't to this day tell you why I opened that one message where I ignored dozens of others, but yeah.

I will say though the social aspects in specific are completely value-free, IMHO. It's just business-Facebook. I've never read nor made a single post on LinkedIn, and can't envision a time I would, and every post I've seen elsewhere screenshotted seems fucking unhinged.

So like, these features: professional networking, private messaging, as an archive of your work history: sure. Those work and are good. Everything else where it tries desperately to be a social network nobody asked for: garbage. Bin it. Could probably cut the operating cost of the website by 96% if you did, too, with the added benefit of not needing to send me dozens of fucking emails begging for engagement.

LordN00b · a year ago
Recently I came to the conclusion that I needed to change jobs, but I held off because I didn't want to deal with the psychotic ramblings of LinkedIn posters. I'm sure in real life they are all perfectly normal indiviuals but something about LinkedIn insists that every poorly worded fable is gateway to wisdom, that methaphorical socratic dialog is to mechanism to describe human behaviour, and starting every second post with 'I'm sure this is a contraversional opinion but hear me out...'

In the end I got fired, so I'm actually forced back into the LinkedIn maelstrom of mediocrity but against my will, and without even the grace of my own grim resignation to spur me in to action.

bluGill · a year ago
Are you? Does anyone find a job with LinkedIn? They were sort of heading in that direction for a while, but don't seem to be anymore.
SpaceNoodled · a year ago
It's the primary method for connecting with recruiters, and all the jobs I've had in the past fifteen years have been due to connections through LinkedIn.

It's not "social media" in the same vein as other platforms.

gazby · a year ago
Depends where you are. LinkedIn is absolutely the only place to go for tech jobs in Australia for example.
shaneofalltrad · a year ago
What alternative do you recommend?
layer8 · a year ago
You can use LinkedIn for job search and completely ignore the posters. There are relatively fine-grained settings of what to get notified about.

I’m not saying that LinkedIn is great, but the post feed is entirely optional.

nikau · a year ago
> There are relatively fine-grained settings of what to get notified about.

Anecdotal, but it seems the mobile app resets those settings every so often so you start to get spammed with crap you don't want to read.

I eventually just blocked the linkedin app from sending any notifications and rely on the emails which I have filters on.

janice1999 · a year ago
Allowing you to sign up and then immediately locking or shadow banning your account is a dark pattern to force you to provide a mobile phone number or other identification (for extra advertising targeting of course).
notahacker · a year ago
Nah. Shadowbanned users normally don't even realise they're shadow-banned; it's not a growth hacking strategy, and the point of ID is to validate details already provided for advertiser filtering. It doesn't even push the "verification" feature particularly hard. OP is unlucky enough to have IDs that span a couple of countries so probably triggers some half-baked algorithm aiming at weeding out fake profiles (LinkedIn loves AI slop, but it's in the business of selling expensive ways of messaging people, so it doesn't want too many fake profiles).

Not that LinkedIn has great ethics around dark patterns: LinkedIn's original dark pattern growth hacks like the "find contacts" feature linked to your email that made it very easy to accidentally send connection requests to anyone you'd ever been included in an email chain with were particularly inappropriate and the "someone from x looked at your profile" stuff always strikes me as a bit creepy. But nobody shadowbans users as part of their growth funnel.

And whilst LinkedIn is actually surprisingly useless for genuine business conversation, I'm not sure the mad people recounting Things That Didn't Happen which impart Important Business Lessons for likes are any worse than that sort of person on other social networks pushing much weirder and angrier stuff these days....

aleksjess · a year ago
LinkedIn is full of worthless posts full of users wanking each other off. Its the only place full of "get out of bed early, quite drinking soy lattes, inherit wealth" type of posts where it doesn't get challenged (maybe X is another one).

I genuinely might prefer reading AI-generated crap, because then I feel better about humanity.

achierius · a year ago
It's funny since if it were any other platform, it would have collapsed by now. But because we all use it to find work, well, what other choice do we have? Sure, most of us don't post, but we're still clicking on the website, and we're still seeing the feed -- apparently that's enough for advertisers, for now.
pbasista · a year ago
> we all use it to find work

For what it is worth, I do not. I have only had an account there for a brief period of time when I was first looking for a job after university. Then, when Microsoft bought it, I deleted my account.

When I was looking for a job afterwards, I had to go on an active look-out. I reached out to 10s of companies manually. I got ignored or immediately rejected most of the time. My success rate from me reaching out to an actual offer was about 3 %. But I guess for an average person that is to be expected.

Looking for any job is easy. Looking for a good job takes time.

gerdesj · a year ago
"My success rate from me reaching out to an actual offer was about 3 %"

Back in the olden days that hit rate would have seemed quite normal. I can remember mailing (mail not email) 20-100 letters with CVs for job applications. Each covering letter was hand signed and some were personalised for the target. Each envelope would have had something like a 30p stamp on it and running my printer was rather more expensive and slower than now.

That was the early 1990s in the UK.

[Edit: grammar]

scarface_74 · a year ago
These days looking for any job is hard especially if you are looking for remote only.
neo_doom · a year ago
This week, I posted about a women in engineering conference happening in my hometown and got zero engagement. 1000+ connections on my profile, used hashtags, and tagged the organization and received zero engagement on the post?

I hate to assume the worst but something stinks. When I open my feed, 9 out of 10 posts are from others that I don't follow or have never engaged with. Reading about your experience has confirmed my suspicions that something nefarious is going on under the hood.

samstp · a year ago
I don't use it much and I haven't had your issues but I'm sick of the political and stupid, irrelevant content. It was supposed to be about professional networking and finding work. It's turning into Facebook and not the original Facebook,the horrible bloated mess it's become.
cyanydeez · a year ago
Enshittification touched everything
glitchc · a year ago
And here I am thinking about deactivating my Linkedin profile for good. That platform has never been useful, most people use it to spy on others.
gerdesj · a year ago
I did and it took ages for the damn thing to die off. It kept on resurrecting itself! I dare not try to login to it just in case it arises again.

Prepare for a long mission!

t067633 · a year ago
You will not regret it. You will not miss it. I did the same to LinkedIn a couple of years ago, and just recently left FaceCrook and Twitter.
itishappy · a year ago
My linked-in is 10 years out of date, and I agree that killing it off is mighty attractive.

Does anybody here have any experience searching for jobs without a linked-in? I'd be curious to know how much an effect that would have on future job searches.

marssaxman · a year ago
I deleted my account fifteen or so years back, and it's worked out fine. I talk with friends to see if they've heard about anything interesting, and I look around for companies working on whatever it is I think I might like to do next, then try to get in touch. It's never taken more than a couple of months to find something.
treebeard901 · a year ago
Over the past few years it has become more important to many recruiters. The idea that your network is your net worth is unfortunately a common belief.
nikau · a year ago
linkedin is still the defacto way to quickly check if a candidate is being truthful about their employment history.

If they don't list the companies they claim to have worked at or have no connections to them its a red flag.

bluGill · a year ago
I'd have to login again for the first time in over a decade to do that. I probably should be I have better things to do than figure out my password.
Yoofie · a year ago
> most people use it to spy on others.

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