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pavlov · a year ago
What a mess. The graph nodes slowly crawl around, as if to ensure that when you click you won't hit the thing you meant. Feels like something built in Flash during Nokia's heady days. (Unintentional irony? Nokia was known as a company with lots of Flash concepts and little software product execution.)

But the content seems really interesting. These are internal prototypes and documents from Nokia's archive, now released for the first time. I wish there was a way to browse them in chronological order without all this janky graph visualization nonsense.

There's a link in the corner that takes you to the actual archive repository:

https://repo.aalto.fi/index.php?name=SO_b66a9391-dcf8-4399-8...

This seems like it might be a less brain-melting way to browse the content.

neom · a year ago
I don't suppose you managed to grab it before we hugged it? I guess it will recover and I'll check back, but if you happened to have grabbed it locally I'd love to dig through it today :) (je @ h4x.club if you're able - thank you!:)
sizzle · a year ago
I agree the usability is a nightmare
Cumpiler69 · a year ago
Guys, what are we doing here?

To me it's a very confusing website, that's also a stuttery mess(Chrome, Win10, Ryzen 4000 6 core). I would much prefer the web page styles of the 90's with just hyperlinks and pictures instead of these fancy orbital sci-fi neural net styles so that some fron-end designers can flex their skills. It looks cool but the UX is bad.

Is this the future of European tech? Online museums to show digital tourists our glorious long gone tech past similar to our IRL museums? The irony is not lost on me.

nabla9 · a year ago
Here: https://repo.aalto.fi/index.php?name=SO_d5d11763-74a5-40a7-a...

This page is just front end to Aalto repository.

Cumpiler69 · a year ago
Thanks
doikor · a year ago
They were being thrown away/deleted so some researches from the university decided to save them. I much prefer this to losing this information/history fully.
Cumpiler69 · a year ago
>I much prefer this to losing this information/history fully.

Edit: Fair enough but I Still maintain my option on the site's poor design.

emsixteen · a year ago
I feel genuinely stupid trying to use a website like this.
vincnetas · a year ago
Here you go the 90's style web page with folder structure :

https://repo.aalto.fi/index.php?name=SO_b66a9391-dcf8-4399-8...

bni · a year ago
What a mess of a webpage. Probably there is interesting content there but the presentation made me close it down immediatley.
sampo · a year ago
I think this is a traditional interface to the same archive:

https://repo.aalto.fi/index.php?name=SO_b66a9391-dcf8-4399-8...

reddalo · a year ago
Yeah, I don't understand what's going on.

I was curious, but that mess of a webpage made me close it right away.

robertlagrant · a year ago
The UI for this does seem a bit "Baby's first force-directed graph". It's quite hard to use for navigation - if it sprang to life on load but then stayed static (other than hover highlighting) I think that would be much better.
moondowner · a year ago
No mention of my fav Nokia of all time, the N9; also no mention of MeeGo and Maemo
usagisushi · a year ago
I came across something interesting titled "Apple iPhone was launched, presentation (2007-12-31)"[0]. It mentions Nokia N800 and implicitly implies a lineage of devices (N770 > N800 > N810 > N900 > N9). Sometimes I wonder what Nokia might have been like in a timeline without Jobs and Ballmer.

> Leverage N800 with its touch screen - it competes nearly in the same arena

[0]: https://repo.aalto.fi/uncategorized/IO_926740c7-5165-439a-a0...

pavlov · a year ago
I had the N770, the N800 and also the N900.

It’s very telling that someone at Nokia thought it’s basically like the iPhone. In fact the N800 was a thick plastic chunk with no cellular, a resistive touchscreen, and a stylus-driven GTK+ user interface. Its most popular software feature among its userbase seemed to be that you can open XTerm.

They did eventually make an iPhone competitor on this same Linux platform (the N9), but it took five years. “Competes nearly in the same arena” indeed — in the same sense that my 8-year-old daughter competes in Simone Biles’s arena because she also likes jumping and takes some gym classes.

agawish · a year ago
It looked like Nokia felt shaken by the iPhone and had the right mindset at the time, but their actions didn't match what was presented, the world would have been different indeed if Nokia had stepped up their game in this time.
glonq · a year ago
Don't forget Elop! He hitched Nokia's wagon to Microsoft's horses and then rode it straight off a cliff.
rob74 · a year ago
Hm, for a site specialized in Nokia phones, it sure has a lot of "unknown models". I assume those are design mockups or prototypes of phones that didn't make it to mass production? At least this N-Gage lookalike https://repo.aalto.fi/uncategorized/IO_e3183882-13b3-48a0-a5... clearly has a dummy screen...
troupo · a year ago
It's an internal Nokia design archive: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42723034 So there are a lot of internal designs and prototypes
yencabulator · a year ago
I visited a lunch spot popular with Nokia R&D employees. It was extremely common for people to have a prototype phone in a fabric bag at the lunch table, so you couldn't see what they were putting to the test of daily use. Lots of very funky phones were glimpsed, only few of them later became commercial products with definite model numbers.
v-yadli · a year ago
Anyone remember the Morph concept?

https://repo.aalto.fi/uncategorized/IO_35687268-3fde-4493-a0...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX-gTobCJHs

Blew me away back then, but forgot the name. This archive helped to recover the bits in my head. Thank you!

bemmu · a year ago
"My First Nokia" designs were funny in this presentation: https://repo.aalto.fi/uncategorized/IO_47c69f41-6009-4520-9e...
imp0cat · a year ago

    This means also, that the expected lifetime of a phone is more than 20 years. It must be updateable and durable.
Impressive! More companies should think like that.

morsch · a year ago
This is in relation to a concept of phone "body" combined with a replacable faceplate which would expose different functionality (additional buttons, slide-out keyboard). One year later they introduced "Xpress-on" covers, which seem to boil down to having different colors. A bit more mundane.