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Tepix · a year ago
And this makes it obvious why you should use a unique username everywhere!

It makes pervasive tracking a lot harder.

Also when you do any research on health related topics, be extra privacy conscious.

nurettin · a year ago
This is why I try to use the same name across websites. I want to be identified as the same person. Just resist the urge to post information you don't want others to have.
prophesi · a year ago
We often don't know what is or isn't information we don't want others to have, and it will be a lot harder, if not impossible, to delete it after-the-fact. Especially when you consider how it only takes a few innocuous data points to derive what might be information you'd rather not disclose.
cruffle_duffle · a year ago
The secret is multiple accounts. I too have a Brand Name Account(tm) I like to float around but it sure as heck isn’t this one.

Doing the multiple account thing isn’t as easy as it sounds though. Some sites like Reddit make switching between accounts incredibly easy while others aren’t so much. Plus laziness kicks in and soon enough your Brand Name Account gets tainted and you have to consider taking it out back to the dumpster.

Such is life I guess.

betaby · a year ago
> Just resist the urge to post information you don't want others to have.

Self-censor you mean?

I personally like that information anonymous account `William Shakespeare` posted around 1585–1613.

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01HNNWZ0MV43FF · a year ago
Then I wouldn't be able to talk about my kinks anywhere
deadbabe · a year ago
Actually it should be the opposite. Claim one handle everywhere that you want people to associate as your “real” persona and then use unique names in places where you want to be controversial.
w4ffl35 · a year ago
Actually, this makes it obvious why you should keep a page that contains all your links. It's easy to just make an account and pose as someone in order to destroy their reputation. It's also difficult to get unique accounts, often times my accounts overlap with existing names. Even my real name is shared with many people. Employers who use technology like this are actually quite foolish to do so.
dylan604 · a year ago
just to be slightly pedantic as there are still sites that have screen names vs account names where the screen name the public sees has no correlation with the account name (typically an email account).

so don't re-use email accounts across sites. SecOps matter

d3VwsX · a year ago
I have a somewhat common firstname.lastname@gmail.com and others with the same name use it pretty often. Surprisingly often it seems as if sites allow accounts to exist without email confirmation. I estimate at least 50% of the accounts out there that use my gmail is actually not me, and I like the idea of anyone trying to make sense of that data, if they can even guess that I am the Firstname Lastname that the address belongs to.
Tepix · a year ago
Yes, another thing you can do is use email subadressing for every account you create, ideally with a non-default separator (i.e., not "+").
morkalork · a year ago
In what kind of dystopia would one need to hide doing research on health related topics? Oh, right.
blitzar · a year ago
And this makes it obvious why you should use the same username everywhere!

When maintaining an official online public presence, or if you are privacy minded you likely want to "plant the flag" to stop others from impersonating you.

mystified5016 · a year ago
This is like preventing identity theft by putting your SSN on the side of a truck

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karlzt · a year ago
Or better yet, be extra privacy conscious with everything you do.
w4ffl35 · a year ago
I strongly suggest the opposite. Collect everything and do on a personal site, do good seo on your pages, expose your content. Go totally anon for anything you don't want exposed of course. But you should expose as much of yourself as you're able and control the conversation.
mihaaly · a year ago
Using online services require so much special attention it starts to weight up to the benefits given. Considering the risks, it is already in pair with the value delivered.
TacticalCoder · a year ago
But then at this point we can take a username, take a user's posts on one site, train a LLM with these posts and ask the LLM to write comments in the style of that user on another forum/subject.

How do you even determine anymore if something is really written by someone?

Websites are already for a huge part written by bots/LLMs and we all know to take them with a huge grain of salt.

How long until we consider users posts aren't to be trusted anymore either?

It already started (impersonating usernames) for sure.

So what is this even tracking?

Heck, at this point it's nearly a guarantee we already have bots trained on outputs of other bots.

I wonder what the implication of all this is going to be.

mrtksn · a year ago
>And this makes it obvious why you should use a unique username everywhere!

Actually I was disappointed by the post, I was hoping it will be able to find the same person regardless of the username through analyzing the writing style, what they are talking about, the timezone etc.

The username doesn't prove anything, anybody can take any username anywhere. If someone targets you, they can take usernames on platforms you haven't claimed your username yet and pretend being you and damage your reputation.

portaouflop · a year ago
That’s why you should claim your main handle on all platforms, just don’t use it if you want privacy.
542354234235 · a year ago
>I was hoping it will be able to find the same person regardless of the username

>Sherlock: Hunt down social media accounts by username

I don't know why you would have been hoping for this. The title isn't exactly ambiguous.

cookiengineer · a year ago
Doesn't matter for the next day's witch hunt

They are just gonna make fake accounts that look like yours and shitpost ahead anyways.

Social media has multiple problems, including authenticity, transparency, validity and verifiability. All of which don't exist and make it the optimum propaganda machine (referring to the criteria that Chomsky described) because it can be corrupted through multiple attack vectors.

If we want to survive this hellhole of misinformation, the mentioned criteria has to be implemented for the "next big platform" so that censorship and other legislative processes can be encountered with increased transparency and openness.

On a network/society scale it can't be driven by financial incentives to prevent corruption, ergo it must be financed by taxes. Preferably on an EU or UN legislative level to prevent political corruption of single state actors.

inerte · a year ago
A state funded platform with a focus on authenticity, transparency, validity and verifiability, is the best thing against censorship? I don’t get how.
casey2 · a year ago
It's a really overengineered fn() { browser site1/$1 site2/$1 ... }

Tools like these insult the users' intelligence and generate needless drama[1] the only data needed are the urls from https://github.com/sherlock-project/sherlock/blob/master/she...

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/github/comments/1at9br4/i_am_new_to...

antoniojtorres · a year ago
That person on the reddit example is as caustic as can be. Perfect example of a nightmare open source user.
KetoManx64 · a year ago
I don't think so. He doesn't care about the source code or want the source code. He just wants an executable file. If there was the exact same project that was closed source and had an .exe file he would have never even gone to the github.
immibis · a year ago
collecting that data is worth something.
tonmoy · a year ago
For people who want to have a professional social presence (FB/linkedin) as well as an anonymous one (Reddit etc), it’ll be super useful to see if the accounts are truly unlinkable. Moreover if you are opening a new anonymous account, maybe a good idea to search the new username using this tool to make sure it’s not “taken”
dylan604 · a year ago
Until some ML process is learned to give a probability that accounts are the same based on writing styles

Staying anonymous is very difficult

philipkglass · a year ago
Stylometry tools may be useful if you already have a small candidate pool of suspected aliases. They produce too many false positives to be useful for blind cross-linking of accounts. Once or twice somebody has done stylometric analysis of HN accounts and I've looked at the results for my accounts. Even though I don't try to obscure style across accounts, stylometry didn't match my actual accounts with each other. My top matches were for accounts controlled by other people.
BoxedEmpathy · a year ago
I specifically write with different perspectives, tones, and opinions on different sites in a probably vain attempt to mitigate this.

For example, on YouTube I use twitch slang, and on Reddit I use TikTok slang, and on TikTok I use reddit slang. On hackernews a use a slightly whimsical pedantically-infused undergrad tone.

mikeodds · a year ago
Using stats this is called stylometry and I agree this will probably be easier at scale now. You can also match posting windows, pull additional features from database dumps/hacks.

Fun post applying it to HN, not sure if the site is still live: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33755016

cootsnuck · a year ago
Then people will start using browser extensions that automatically "fuzz" your writing style randomly. That is, if chasing anonymity is someone's true goal.

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domoregood · a year ago
Interesting tool, but it generates false positives. Try Sherlocking some randomly generated usernames that cannot possibly exist and it will still return results for some of the URLs in its list.
pluc · a year ago
So what's a non creepy use for this?
hn_throwaway_99 · a year ago
I think the "non creepy" use is really just making people aware how easy it is to correlate all your different traces online. It's like when someone released on HN a tool that would link various HN accounts (and maybe Reddit accounts too IIRC), but by looking at commenter word choice similarity.

It makes people realize that actual anonymity online is a smokescreen.

deadbabe · a year ago
Finding usernames that you can register and own across all social networks.
anticorporate · a year ago
*For some very narrow, twisted definitions of the word "own"
jedberg · a year ago
Seeing what it finds about yourself?
Tepix · a year ago
Is it creepy if you google a job candidate?
naavis · a year ago
In many parts of the world it is illegal for a recruiting party to search for information on a candidate without their consent.
steelframe · a year ago
I recently Googled myself, and in the first page of results I ran across some shit AI website that scrapes random web content about people and attempts to summarize it. It got my current occupation completely and comically wrong -- as in, it has nothing at all to do with tech.

If you're trying to figure out anything about me from social media or other such random web pages, I don't care to have anything to do with you, and I don't care what you're led to believe about me. I suppose this is born of privilege, but the only contacts I care to make are directly via people I already have a relationship with.

fragmede · a year ago
Clean up the online footprint for someone that hires you to do so before they run for office. I don't remember every single web site I've every signed up for going back to when I started using the Internet, and neither can you.
pluc · a year ago
Internet Archive likely renders that point moot, no? There a plenty of sites that index tweets outside of Twitter for example... at least there used to be
hooverd · a year ago
That's the great part- there isn't. Following people you like on every platform I guess.
mrkramer · a year ago
Cybercrime research; locate malicious actors across social web.

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diogonr95 · a year ago
It’s also a great education tool to showcase the need to be careful about internet hygiene. The creeps have done this sort of things for decades
lupusreal · a year ago
Like hiring a PI to follow people around to educate people about about stalkers.

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EGreg · a year ago
Letting a person sign up on your site and choose to import stuff they've put onto other sites under that username, maybe.
some_random · a year ago
Realistically it's doing this to people who deserve it, trouble is that no one is going to agree on that criteria
s1artibartfast · a year ago
Who deserves it, and what is "it"?
Mountain_Skies · a year ago
To socially harass and drive to suicide anyone that doesn't conform to the dominate cultural outlook. Think that's creepy? Well, you just made the list!
yieldcrv · a year ago
I’m on a lot of lists and still have TSA Precheck, Global Entry, can hold US security clearances, pass professional background checks

so what are you lesser relevant people worried about exactly?

jackconsidine · a year ago
I’ve successfully used Sherlock to track down a colleague that I only connected with on MeetUp. It’s an amazing tool. Worth running on your own usernames as an easy account inventory
blindriver · a year ago
I haven’t used my real name online since the late 1990s once I realized things are stored forever.
jmyeet · a year ago
Remember when IPv6 decided on 128 bit addreses and defaulting to /64 blocks because someone thought using a 48-bit MAC address as the IPv6 equivalent of a port was a good idea? Fast forward a decade or two and we realize how this is a PII leak issue so nobody does it but we're still stuck with 128-bit addresses (for those who use IPv6).

There are several things that are a security issue or simply a privacy issue. These include:

- Your username (as I assume this tool is demonstrating)

- Your email address. While this is treated as your "public identity" to some extent, I think we're rapidly approaching a point where we need to not do this;

- Your phone number; and

- Your profile pic. I would advise to never use the same pic across accounts and certainly don't use services like gravatar (if that's still a thing).

Email is particularly problematic because you can end up on spam lists if a site is compromised and you can't really identify where it comes from.

What I think we need is a more integrated solution for logging in and creating throwaway addresses (eg like SimpleLogin) so it's basically seamless. Gmail seems well-positioned to do this. I honestly don't know why Google hasn't done this.

Interestingly, Facebook Groups seem to handle this kind of anonymity reasonable well. Each group your in is a separate profile. You can't find out what other groups someone is in from either their personal identity or any group's identity. Weirdly, your FB profile is associated with any pages or profiles you comment on.

It should be clear to these companies by now that people want to silo their public identities (aka pseudonomity).

gonzo · a year ago
> Remember when IPv6 decided on 128 bit addreses and defaulting to /64 blocks because someone thought using a 48-bit MAC address as the IPv6 equivalent of a port was a good idea?

No, I don’t, and I’m well-aware of EUI-64.

IPv6 uses 128-bit addressing because some on the design committee or making comments on the drafts thought that 64 bits might not be enough.

immibis · a year ago
You're not required to put a MAC in the last 64 bits, but the fact that your ISP has to give you at least 64 bits is very cool.

Privacy addresses are random and periodically rotated.

The IPv6 equivalent of a port is a port.