At this point I have PyCharm as my IDE, Obsidian as my official "Notes" with a capital N, and about 40 open unsaved text documents in Sublime Text that i just use as scratchpads. Writing down things, acting as a poor man's extended clipboard, etc.
I absolutely love this flow and it works so well for me now.
> The product is browser first and document history is stored locally
so.. for throwaway documents then?
browser storage is one of the worst data places imagineable. Hard to backup, very hard for user to access, impossible to sync or share. And very unreliable too: many troubleshooting procedures for web apps start with "reset browser profile" or "clear site data"
I assumed it was letting you store it on the local filesystem, not in the browser storage, which I agree is a bad place to store anything. There is one site I use that stores my favorites in the browser store and I had to write two JS bookmarklets so I can import/export my settings on a regular basis because pretty much every time Chrome crashes you can be assured that all my cookies and storage data gets zero'd out.
It sort of does. Not in a strict semantic sense, but I don't think any user of a service that says it stores stuff "locally" expects it to upload that to somewhere else without explicit consent.
It sounds like your interpretation is like if I said "our data is stored on our servers" but that actually meant "our data is stored on our servers, but also on AWS, GCP, Azure, Alibaba and shared with FSB, CIA, CCP, and the public and other parties (including but not limited to the Royal Bhutan Police)".
That would be true, but misleading to the point of being meaningless or (hopefully) potentially criminal.
I tried using the product and out of curiosity inspected the editor. The editor is basically a CodeMirror plugin with all the tech heavy-lifting like realtime collaboration is enabled by CodeMirror itself.
It's clearly an overstretch to call this a Google Docs alternative, especially since Google docs is powered by insane levels of engineering. I know because I work on a competing word-processing product.
It's mildly surprising seeing such a shell product receiving millions of dollars in funding and even a published post in TechCrunch!
I'll be swapping over. My usage for Google Docs is little more than pastebin + formating + access control. I suspect this is also probably a huge chunk of their overall use-case as well. In general, the least engineering amount possible to deliver what's actually needed is best IMO!
There once was an incredibly nice product like this called hackpad. It even had a similar theme IIRC. It was a yc company, lovely polished product, and the folks I was founding a startup with loved it with zero effort spent on convincing them.
I just got hedgedoc (nee codimd, nee hackmd [1]) setup for my own purposes. It does have the advantage of splitscreen edit/preview, and it has the option to use vim/emacs keybinds in the editor, but if I'd had stashpad, I probably would not have bothered setting up a selfhost hedgedoc.
+1 for hedgedoc. Only weird thing missing is an admin interface and easy way to check if no one is abusing any of those forgotten public pads that are hanging about.
Readit News
data:text/html, <html contenteditable>
It's great for quick notes between tabs or copy/pasting things together into a cohesive comment.
It's how I found kill-sticky[1] which I use religiously.
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[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
Here is my modification to yours. I added a data URI notepad favicon.
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I've been wanting to make a simple web app with persistent notes, a homegrown Google Keep clone, to run on my shared host, just for privacy purposes.
But this is a neat little non-persistent solution for single-location use.
Run it through a sanitizer before serving it back, but otherwise it'll work fine.
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A million editors and you pick the least capable. My go-to is a sublime text window, even if ST is not my code editor.
I absolutely love this flow and it works so well for me now.
so.. for throwaway documents then?
browser storage is one of the worst data places imagineable. Hard to backup, very hard for user to access, impossible to sync or share. And very unreliable too: many troubleshooting procedures for web apps start with "reset browser profile" or "clear site data"
It sounds like your interpretation is like if I said "our data is stored on our servers" but that actually meant "our data is stored on our servers, but also on AWS, GCP, Azure, Alibaba and shared with FSB, CIA, CCP, and the public and other parties (including but not limited to the Royal Bhutan Police)".
That would be true, but misleading to the point of being meaningless or (hopefully) potentially criminal.
It's clearly an overstretch to call this a Google Docs alternative, especially since Google docs is powered by insane levels of engineering. I know because I work on a competing word-processing product.
It's mildly surprising seeing such a shell product receiving millions of dollars in funding and even a published post in TechCrunch!
10 years ago Dropbox bought it and shut it down.
https://hn.algolia.com/?q=hackpad
I'd love to have something similar that's lightweight and not serverside node.js
[1] https://hedgedoc.org/history/
https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/scratch/id1671420139
I tried to optimise for least number of taps to quickly write something down.
Here’s a blog post by a user https://irreal.org/blog/?p=11202