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withinboredom · 2 years ago
Heh, I remember doing this for WordPress plugins back in 2010ish. Basically look for plugins with high install rate but not been updated in a long time. Fork it, add on paid services, then market the hell out of it on Reddit/etc. I was making ~4-5k a month from that before I had to give it up due to a COI policy at work.
topoftheforts · 2 years ago
That's amazing! I thought about whether to keep the data to myself and build something or share it and sell access to it. I hope I made the right decision! (Also I just learned what a COI policy is)
withinboredom · 2 years ago
I'll probably purchase the data :soon:... honestly. I no longer work for that company (after spending well over 5 years there) and I've been thinking about doing something like this again.
stets · 2 years ago
Whoa, was your work related to wordpress plugins?
withinboredom · 2 years ago
You mean the COI? You could say that. Basically I wasn’t allowed to take payment for any WordPress related activities after accepting employment.
tikkun · 2 years ago
Aside: This is a great title.

It shows what you made (a dataset of Gumroad products), why/to whom it matters (to spot market opportunities), and it implies how (dataset/scraping). Nice!

topoftheforts · 2 years ago
Thank you! I looked at the previous Show HN submissions and tried to get a pulse on what worked better.
psd1 · 2 years ago
How very appropriate for a post about market research!
jermaustin1 · 2 years ago
I don't sell on Gumroad, but I do sell on Etsy, and use a somewhat similar software (albeit much more robust) called eRank to help spot trends and get ahead of the curve. You should look into amending this product with some more robust features:

* Utilize the API to let a Gumroad seller import their actual Sales numbers, to help further refine your reviews to sales numbers.

* Connect with google to spot search trends that lead to Gumroad products

* Run some sort of AI analysis to help the seller understand their copy is failing them for SEO, etc.

Check out eRank, and look at their offerings, and you can get a lot of ideas on how to grow this product from $50 once to $10+/mo.

https://help.erank.com/features/

topoftheforts · 2 years ago
Thank you so much this is really helpful! I was a bit worried about spending weeks on something that nobody wanted, so I launched a MVP to begin with. If there’s enough interest I’ll work on more features! I would still keep a one off or license based pricing though, I feel a collective subscription fatigue
bilsbie · 2 years ago
There are so many options on that link? Which is the best one to find product ideas?
jermaustin1 · 2 years ago
It is a beast of a tool. I still only use a tiny fraction of it's potential. I use it to spot Trends, which are the right hand side of the dashboard (its the current most searched for keywords on etsy - 2 weeks ago it was "trump mugshot"). Then in the main portion of the dashboard, it summarizes my shop (inventory, missing/unoptimized tags, missing images, sales to date, global and national ranking, a few other less useful stats).

When you sign up, you connect your shop to your profile. After that, you can look for competitors and add them for comparisons.

quickthrower2 · 2 years ago
I have been looking through IndieHacker reported revenues for inspiration like this. What I found is a surprising number of ideas work and make $5k+ MRR and so not to get too hung up on the idea as long as it is feasible that people will pay for it.

For example someone is charging $30/m to convert PDF bank statements to CSV, and someone a similar price to effectively static site generate off a Google Sheet. It is all in how you sell it I guess! These are not trivial products but they are not things you need a team to build.

My thought is to build quick, get in front of people and then iterate on that feedback. Instead of building stealth then finding no one wants it.

Well done on this launch!

I was tempted to build something like this off IH but felt that I am not adding much value since IH already spill the beans. Although maybe running an LLM over each idea to spit out a summary might be cool (maybe I will do that).

I have some other ideas along the idea of build X but sell the side effects, the problems solved along the way.

topoftheforts · 2 years ago
Thank you! I think you're so right and I used that spirit to launch Gumtrends. I was worried about the reaction of people (about bugs, the scraping, missing features) but I'm so happy I launched anyway.
thih9 · 2 years ago
What’s the legality of reselling a dataset like this?
viggity · 2 years ago
I would assume it really comes down to Gumroad's ToS and what they "allow" on their site, but it is a bit different if he was buying data and reselling it. He's not, he's taking publicly available data and adding value on top of it.

If I were gumroad, I'd love these tools to be out there, it drives more people to their platform through more content. I doubt they'll get upset about this.

XCSme · 2 years ago
If it's publicly available data, then it's most likely legal, right?
Cthulhu_ · 2 years ago
It's err... complicated, there's various laws involving scraping data and republishing it. I think they're fine as long as they don't compete with Gumroad or republish their contents outright.
readthenotes1 · 2 years ago
Is this a clone of trendsvc, as advertised on the home page?

"Originally, I took pre-orders for my Trend Reports on Gumroad. But I received... exactly $0. So I changed tactics: I made half of my report free, and the other half paid. Today, 99% of Trends.VC revenue is recurring in the form of annual and quarterly subscriptions.” Dru Riley sells business insights and expertise"

topoftheforts · 2 years ago
Honestly I hadn't heard of trends.vc until now (and I never scrolled that far into the Gumroad homepage) I have another website that is focused on trends (social media related) and I know it's a big market so that's why I built Gumtrends
mateuszbuda · 2 years ago
How did you collect this data? Did you just use webscraping? What tools did you use for this?
topoftheforts · 2 years ago
Yes just webscraping. Just used Laravel, cause that's what I'm most familiar with. The site is Laravel + AlpineJS (with Vite)
AbstractAirways · 2 years ago
I tried to scrape them and found they had some pretty robust anti-scraping implemented. Did you have to do anything to overcome it?
russum · 2 years ago
Can you also see the actual reviews of the products, or just the total number per star? If the reviews are also available there's potential room for sentiment analysis to automatically determine the common complaints about those products.
topoftheforts · 2 years ago
Unfortunately Gumroad does not display any text reviews as far as I'm aware