The whole collection of blogs is incredible. I am utterly stunned by and in awe of the facilities that have been built down there.
Given the excruciatingly harsh conditions of the environment, I cannot imagine what the construction process must have been like. Looking at a lot of the pictures conjures a feeling for me like it all must have been built by some advanced alien civilization and left behind for us to occupy. The construction crews who created all that stuff should be celebrated as heroes as far as I’m concerned. Very impressive.
What surprised me is how ordinary much of the construction is - lots of it looks similar to things I’ve seen in the Midwest. The collection of doors struck me the most - some of those doors were just normal doors, others looked like a walk in freezer.
Part of that may be a complex construction may work better, but a simple one can be repaired on site by those who are there.
Most of the main station (exterior) doors are walk-in style. The same goes for most of the scientific outbuildings. A lot of the smaller outbuildings, like the climbing gym, have relatively "normal" doors.
There is a lot of wood construction, because it insulates well, it's light (extremely important for cheap construction), there's no moisture to speak of, and it's easily repaired. A lot of the walls are wood with a ton of insulation and metal cladding [0]. The windows are beefy, though weirdly they were designed in with metal frames which I imagine leak a lot of heat. Most of the interior construction feels somewhere between a corporate and a university space. It was built by government and defense contractors, so there is also a bit of a barracks feeling about it too.
Great set of posts! This one brought to mind: I think there's an unexplored niche of vampire movies where our protagonist lives 6 months in each hemisphere per year to minimize downtime in a coffin. With careful planning and a private jet, you can probably reduce sun time to a few hours per year. This would be an interesting calculation to do.
Bonus Sunday thought: It's always said that ants are found on all continents except Antarctica, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant (surely there must be some ants in the buildings). I've always thought it would be interesting to try to introduce them there, sort of like a modern-day Herostratos.
Modern humans are much better at successful bio-insulation. New Zealand's first colonists couldn't help but bring rats, there were rats everywhere there were humans, they snuck about large boats, the colonists were humans, they brought rats and, (with some small but growing exceptions) there are still rats everywhere humans live on New Zealand today.
However, by the time Amundsen Scott was built in 1956 we'd got much more conscious of why this is a bad idea and of how to prevent it. So the only reason there would be ants at Amundsen Scott would be if we intentionally wanted ants there, and I can't think of any reason why we would. If they "escaped" they can't live on Antarctica, the penguins make it look easy but it's really hard to live there, an ant colony would need human intervention to basically feed and protect the ants.
Your question made me wonder why the cycle would be a year long. I realized that's because when standing at 90 degrees north or south you're just rotating on the spot. There's only the yearly day/night cycle because of the 23.5 degree tilt of the earth's axis, and this doesn't change relative to the plane of the orbit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9MU4TouzII&t=61
This also explains why across 24 hours on the video in the blog the sun just "revolves" at the same height across the sky. In reality it's setting but it's imperceptible.
At less than 90 degrees (anyone know the longitude?), the earth's rotation comes back into effect and the sun does go "behind the earth", i.e. it sets, daily, for a few months.
When I went to Sweden for a semester, I knew the “days would be short” but what I didn’t understand was _how_ they would be short.
I imagined the sun “flying across the sky” quickly to make it a short day.
In fact, the sun barely peeks up over the horizon, glimmers with some disorienting side-light for a few hours before settling back below the horizon. This created an effect which was like a literal twilight zone and was totally surreal.
I visited Reykjavik during the winter solstice, and stayed there for a bit over a week. I had the same misapprehension as you. At noon, the sun was just barely over the horizon and it felt like days never got much brighter than twilight. It was very strange.
Even northern Germany, in Gottingen, was jarring to this American. You carefully planned your day around daylight, and made sure to go outside at lunchtime.
> After the sun reaches its peak, it begins to set. It’s still rotating in perfect circles around the sky; they’re just getting lower and lower each day.
It would be very cool to have an extremely long exposure/solargraph of this!
One of my winter experiments that never got off the ground was to make a lunargraph. I don't think there are many places you could "easily" do that. I did also try making a solargraph as a test, with a 3D printed enclosure, but I think the extreme cold does funny stuff to the reciprocity of the paper and it was a pain to wipe off the frost every day.
To a lesser extent, a friend of mine moved to Fairbanks, Alaska with her husband where they’d get near-full days of sun in the summer and dark in the winter.
They made it about five years (they were there on a med school debt reduction program to work in smaller communities) and then noped the hell out as fast as they could. They are both pretty resilient people but really struggled with the months of these daylight patterns. Even after “getting used to it” they felt the oppression of the dark seasons particularity hard.
I’d be curious to know what the science is around making this more bearable for long term stays in that type of condition. I’m laughing at the photos of tropical beaches in the cafeteria photos from the article but I’m guessing those honestly probably do offer a slight marginal boost!
From what I’ve read regulating the light is extremely important - which necessitates going far indoors at set times where you can have non-blue light to simulate sunset. Endless day can wear on you like endless night, but the night can fought with proper lighting.
This. I lived way up north a few years ago - near 70N - and the winters were a breeze. What wore me down was the summers - you could work into the evening and still have plenty daylight left to socialise outdoors after work.
If you weren't careful, though, suddenly you'd notice that the pesky sun was higher in the sky than it had been a couple of hours ago, and you knew you were in for a hard day.
The counter-argument I've heard from someone who lived there is that--relative to northern continental US--you basically have the same amount of non-work light in the winters (i.e. zero). But you have as much light as you could ever want (and maybe more) between the equinoxes.
Fun fact, I saw the temperatures they're getting and I just looked this up to be sure.
The freezing point of Carbon Dioxide at atmospheric pressures is -78.5C, which it reaches sometimes at the south pole.
So apparently carbon dixodie can freeze out of the atmosphere (deposition) and turn to solid carbon dioxide ice in mid-winter. Though I believe because the partial pressure will be too low, you'd need to concentrate the CO2 first.
It has been considered to sequester CO2 at Antarctica by just cooling the air a bit more (e.g. with a few gigawatt of wind farms), and keeping the solid CO2 in a "CO2 landfill".
The station is at 10,657 feet (it's on top of a mountain) and the air pressure is 679.1 mb. Though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_ice#/media/File:Comparison... is a log chart for y and doesn't have many minor ticks for X ... I want to say it's closer to -83 °C. It's significant enough that you'd notice (if you were to go outside).
the timelapse of the sun just traveling in a circle is probably one of the most bizarre things i've seen of a real natural phenomenon. it's one of those things of just so outside my normal experience that i had never actually thought about it, but seeing it like this definitely shows how weird things are at the poles.
imagine how livable (or not) a planet would be if the planet's axis were even more extreme
> imagine how livable (or not) a planet would be if the planet's axis were even more extreme
For a SF take on the effects of living on a planet with very extreme days (and years) take a look at the Helliconia series by Brian Aldiss [0]. Helliconia is a planet in a double-star system whose 'year' lasts for about 2500 Earth-years, and the seasons last for centuries. When the primary star dips below a mountain range, you might not see it again for 100s of years. Civilisation rises and falls over these timescales, with winter inevitably causing a reset as farming and other activities crash.
Wasn’t there an Asimov story with a similar twist? The scientists discovered that there was a rare point where all three stars would set and drive everyone mad.
exactly. if the planets in the habitable zone had that kind of orientation, where would the livable zones be located? or a planet that was tidally locked to the sun like the moon is to the earth? a circadian rhythm would seem to be non-existent. equatorial life seems like it would be the optimal locations
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Given the excruciatingly harsh conditions of the environment, I cannot imagine what the construction process must have been like. Looking at a lot of the pictures conjures a feeling for me like it all must have been built by some advanced alien civilization and left behind for us to occupy. The construction crews who created all that stuff should be celebrated as heroes as far as I’m concerned. Very impressive.
Part of that may be a complex construction may work better, but a simple one can be repaired on site by those who are there.
There is a lot of wood construction, because it insulates well, it's light (extremely important for cheap construction), there's no moisture to speak of, and it's easily repaired. A lot of the walls are wood with a ton of insulation and metal cladding [0]. The windows are beefy, though weirdly they were designed in with metal frames which I imagine leak a lot of heat. Most of the interior construction feels somewhere between a corporate and a university space. It was built by government and defense contractors, so there is also a bit of a barracks feeling about it too.
[0] https://www.southpolestation.com/polefeb1.jpg
And "A walk at the South Pole" in -63C: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiHpQ2q9ZcI
Bonus Sunday thought: It's always said that ants are found on all continents except Antarctica, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant (surely there must be some ants in the buildings). I've always thought it would be interesting to try to introduce them there, sort of like a modern-day Herostratos.
However, by the time Amundsen Scott was built in 1956 we'd got much more conscious of why this is a bad idea and of how to prevent it. So the only reason there would be ants at Amundsen Scott would be if we intentionally wanted ants there, and I can't think of any reason why we would. If they "escaped" they can't live on Antarctica, the penguins make it look easy but it's really hard to live there, an ant colony would need human intervention to basically feed and protect the ants.
As for the ants idea, introducing a species where it doesn't exist is usually a Bad Thing (TM).
https://youtu.be/8ClVrVK_y0E
This also explains why across 24 hours on the video in the blog the sun just "revolves" at the same height across the sky. In reality it's setting but it's imperceptible.
At less than 90 degrees (anyone know the longitude?), the earth's rotation comes back into effect and the sun does go "behind the earth", i.e. it sets, daily, for a few months.
I imagined the sun “flying across the sky” quickly to make it a short day.
In fact, the sun barely peeks up over the horizon, glimmers with some disorienting side-light for a few hours before settling back below the horizon. This created an effect which was like a literal twilight zone and was totally surreal.
It would be very cool to have an extremely long exposure/solargraph of this!
http://xyzon.nl/solargraphy/
They made it about five years (they were there on a med school debt reduction program to work in smaller communities) and then noped the hell out as fast as they could. They are both pretty resilient people but really struggled with the months of these daylight patterns. Even after “getting used to it” they felt the oppression of the dark seasons particularity hard.
I’d be curious to know what the science is around making this more bearable for long term stays in that type of condition. I’m laughing at the photos of tropical beaches in the cafeteria photos from the article but I’m guessing those honestly probably do offer a slight marginal boost!
If you weren't careful, though, suddenly you'd notice that the pesky sun was higher in the sky than it had been a couple of hours ago, and you knew you were in for a hard day.
The freezing point of Carbon Dioxide at atmospheric pressures is -78.5C, which it reaches sometimes at the south pole.
So apparently carbon dixodie can freeze out of the atmosphere (deposition) and turn to solid carbon dioxide ice in mid-winter. Though I believe because the partial pressure will be too low, you'd need to concentrate the CO2 first.
https://earthtechling.com/2015/11/could-we-sequester-co2-in-...
The station is at 10,657 feet (it's on top of a mountain) and the air pressure is 679.1 mb. Though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_ice#/media/File:Comparison... is a log chart for y and doesn't have many minor ticks for X ... I want to say it's closer to -83 °C. It's significant enough that you'd notice (if you were to go outside).
Nitpick: it's not on top of a mountain, it's on top of a 2-mile-thick ice sheet (glacier).
imagine how livable (or not) a planet would be if the planet's axis were even more extreme
For a SF take on the effects of living on a planet with very extreme days (and years) take a look at the Helliconia series by Brian Aldiss [0]. Helliconia is a planet in a double-star system whose 'year' lasts for about 2500 Earth-years, and the seasons last for centuries. When the primary star dips below a mountain range, you might not see it again for 100s of years. Civilisation rises and falls over these timescales, with winter inevitably causing a reset as farming and other activities crash.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helliconia