It's a hobby project of mine, because I wanted to build an app to track my hiking and skiing activities in a way I like it, including 3D visualization (I live in Switzerland, so it's usually always either up or down and that's hard to visualize on a 2D map) and easy comparison of past efforts on the same track.
I mean you can do bikes, it just takes a GPS track file (GPX or FIT) and plots the route. You can also try it out without creating an account (drag and drop your file on the front page: https://cubetrek.com)
"Money shot" is right; let me just close that office door...
Crude humor aside, that's enough to get me to go poke around later. Well done. I don't live in the Alps, but the hills around the Seattle Eastside area are enough to make good use of such a tool.
Shameless plug also: I am the developers and operators of the free and vendor independent training log » https://www.velohero.com
Like you, I run this training platform as side project. I have been doing this since 2008. No price increase since then (always 19EUR). I come from your neighboring country - Germany. If you see the change that we join forces, feel free to contact me via LinkedIn or email » https://www.nkn-it.de
That is amazing! A totally deserved plug - love it. I don't live in a very hilly area, but I was frustrated my strava jig tracks looked so 'slow' as I was going up and down my local coast hills on my run. Hope it can work in my area.
It should, the elevation data comes from the NASA SRTM dataset, so unless you live somewhere above the arctic circle, it should work. Try it out, you can drag and drop a GPX/FIT file on the homepage (http://cubetrek.com) without setting up an account.
Nice, where do you get the data from? I'm using OpenStreetMap (OSM features annotated as 'Peak'), and check with PostGIS for peaks that are close to the GPS track.
I canceled my Strava membership when I learned of the price hike news. I never got an email about it and couldn’t find any information on Strava about the price increase.
So I am no longer a paying member.
Your app look super cool, and would be great in Taiwan and Japan where it’s quite mountainous.
I’m interested in being a beta tester if you’re looking.
Yes! But only Garmin so far (working on Polar now).
You need to set up an account and than link your Garmin account in the profile.
Here's the catch: Garmin only allows syncing of future activities. I can't access your past activities from your Garmin account. There's a way around it though: https://cubetrek.com/static/bulkdownload.html
I just tried a quick experiment, and it will import GPX files that are exported from Garmin. Whether it will directly pull data from Garmin Connect is a question for the dev, but a quick test drive did not reveal that functionality.
Privacy controls and public posting delays (as in: analysis is available immediately, but public route posting gets delayed to a set time interval) would be excellent, particularly for those people who are more viral than they’d like.
Late reply, but here goes: currently there are two states only, private (only the user can see it) and public (everyone can see it). There are no social features (yet?), so no friends or similar
Not surprised. My take - Strava was founded over 13 years ago, which is a dinosaur in startup land. They've raised $150m+ from investors and they want a return, so the company is scrambling to make decisions which can make the company more money. So I wouldn't be surprised if the specification for pricing was made by a committee and implemented by engineers with little direction. And since no one has conviction on what will work, this is your result (throwing stuff at the wall).
Note - if you follow Strava's history, this isn't the first time they've been screwy with their commercial model. They had this funky "Training, Safety and Analysis" pack pricing program[0] that was confusing and they ultimately reverted back to the simple pricing model.
Ultimately the unit economics just don't work out in this space - 100 million people don't want to pay to hold their training data in a prettier interface when they can just get it for free with Garmin (Strava does more than that btw, but the people who are fanatical about that info are a miniority). Likewise, if they don't IPO, there are too few players in the space that would make a $1b+ acquisition.
I think you're mostly correct here, but Strava's main selling point isn't the data store and interface (which in my opinion is not great). It's the social feature.
I've met a massive community of cyclists: rode with cycling "celebs," trained with really strong amateurs, met a ton of people, learned about weekly group rides, learned about the best rides in the area, and made some very good friends.
Most of this was facilitated by Strava. I'm glad it hasn't devolved into just another shitty social media app, but I do feel like they are not capitalizing on what makes them unique. Right now that is being the de facto cycling social media network.
As a current subscriber I'm not sure I agree with this.
Yes Strava does do social stuff but they're a mixed bag and also free. I like that they don't do aggressive surveillance as a business model (it's one of the reasons I subscribe) but it's also pretty useless for organising and planning future rides.
Lots of people comment and give kudos after an event's happened but I don't know anyone using Strava to agree meeting up somewhere. All of that side of things seems to happen on Signal, Whatsapp or FB here.
I do like the route planning but I'm not sure I'll continue to subscribe just for that given the new prices.
This is my experience. Strava is the only social network where I've made friends. It is a net positive in life. Every other social network I tried to use caused me to fire some friends eventually.
What features of Strava have helped with that? Did you find a local cycling group on Strava and met up with people via that? I seem to be a cycling (or at least group riding) dead zone, because there don't seem to be any active groups near me.
I get kudos from friends afar but the only person that Strava helped me connect with was someone that I chatted briefly at a stoplight with, who then found me via Strava flyover. But even then, we've never ridden together since.
I think the bigger problem is that their users all have accounts on competing services by this point.
By the time they got serious about adding features, everybody who wanted them had already signed up for alternative services that had them. Now Strava is playing catch up with a bunch of newer companies, and each one them is focused on a subset of Strava's users.
For me, I signed up for RideWithGPS ages before Strava had a good route planner. Now Strava has one, but now I'm happy with RWGPS and don't have any reason to switch back.
Other people wanted better training tools, and they found services that helped with that.
Meanwhile, we've all kept our Strava accounts, because that's where the leaderboards and groups are.
The endurance athletes who care about data use Garmin Connect, TrainingPeaks, and WKO for tracking and analytics. Strava's analytics and workout planning features are basically useless.
Where Strava adds value is as a social network. It's fun to share your activities and pictures with friends, and see what they have been doing. I've gotten good ideas for routes to try or races to enter.
As a long time Strava user it is frustrating to see how it has been stagnant for many years and they almost never add useful improvements. They still don't support triathlons (or any other multisport activities). Many of the segment and challenge leaderboards are full of obvious cheaters.
Yea, I "left" the app when they started forcing me to pay. After a year of paying for it, I just couldn't justify paying that much money just to compete, racing along the inherently flawed timed segments.
It's an amazing app, and I'd love to pay them for it, but unless they were to start releasing hardware that allowed me to see and meet up with my friends while riding, it's hard to justify hundreds of dollars just for something that my garmin or google maps/ridewithgps already does by default.
It's a classic story of a startup with a loyal userbase paying a reasonable fee for stagnating features for years, misjudges customer loyalty, doubles the price, then makes some PR mistakes, and comes out behind in the end.
As someone in the tri community in vc funded silicon valley, I haven't heard of a better alternative to strava? would genuinely be interested in trying something better but all my running clubs still seem to be using strava
I mean for me, just.. not using strava. I’m also in a triathlon club in my area, and some people use strava together, but a bunch of people don’t, and you aren’t really missing out on much by not having it.
I use intervals.icu for planning my training - it has one main developer and he’s great. And it’s completely free unless you want to donate (which I do)
For social stuff? They're the gorilla in the room. But, the pure social stuff isn't gated (comments/posts/groups).
For training analysis? TrainingPeaks, TrainerRoad, Wahoo Systm, intervals.icu, and others. Of course, some of those rely on Strava APIs to get data to/from devices.
What features are you looking for with a running app?
I haven't used Strava, but Garmin seems to have a decent enough app and their devices are pretty popular amongst the running and cycling communities. I've been using Garmin's app and a watch for about 6 months now and couldn't be happier with my experience.
Garmin Connect actually has all the useful (to me) features Strava has.
If all your buddies have Garmins and post public rides/runs, you get segment leaderboards, friends news feed, popularity routing, kudos, a training calendar that connects to TrainingPeaks and all the stats you could want.
Plus Garmin has very capable sports watches and smart body weight scales to consolidate all your fitness indicators in one place. Also, it's completely free.
The downside is the user base is much smaller so less segments and who knows if your KOM is the fastest time. You also won't get randos on the internet kudo'ing your rides/runs and boosting your ego. Also, no cool extensions like Elevate, StravaSauce, etc.
TrainingPeaks, Xert, ... there are a number of sites that cater to professional training analysis. It's a niche they tend to do much better at than Strava since they don't have the social thing to go with it. Meanwhile, if all you want is the social part, why are you paying for Strava.
> It's a classic story of a startup with a loyal userbase paying a reasonable fee for stagnating features for years, misjudges customer loyalty, doubles the price, then makes some PR mistakes, and comes out behind in the end.
Is private equity involved here?
Someone in my family was recently looking for a calorie tracker app. All the ones I was familiar with (and liked) from years ago had been acquired by private equity, which only crippled the free tier and make subscriptions ridiculously expensive.
Seems like the private equity playbook is to cut development to the bare bones, increase prices, and let the app rot while they burn the goodwill to turn it into short/medium term cashflow.
> Seems like the private equity playbook is to cut development to the bare bones, increase prices, and let the app rot while they burn the goodwill to turn it into short/medium term cashflow.
Quite the opposite. Most PE does not do this btw, unless it's large cap ($1b+ valuation or higher). This is VC backed, and they are actually aggressively investing in growth (at all costs).
I’m not their target user so I’m pretty ignorant but I have to wonder - what else can they add? Would people complain just as much if they were “moving fast and breaking things”? Maybe they need to raise the price to avoid layoffs many other companies have been doing.
Seems like they haven’t improved and still lack incredibly basic features like providing a current pace estimate for runners. I gave up after years of wanting it to improve and much prefer Workoudoors as a one time fair priced alternative that crushes strava on features and posts everything to strava automatically if you want the social side.
Old Twitter was and current Strava are about as good as they can be. You can't complain about no new features when you haven't articulated what's missing.
Yikes! As a starting point, I'd love for Workoutdoors to add a valid SSL and not index their HTTP site to Google. I tried this once on my Apple Watch Ultra and found it a maddening experience. I'm hopeful though that investment in these space improves because, to your point, Strava has not been contributing all that much.
Like sibling, I'm a little confused about the issue with no HTTPS. I rarely even view the site, and no user data is on there AFAICT. And do the data even leave the watch/phone? I don't see any traffic that isn't just synching iCloud data.
Anyway, don't want to get hung up on that, but more to agree with your point about the usability of swipe left/right/double-tap here, there, everywhere. I understand the dev is working with they have been given, but I'm just trying to run not be pre-occupied with my watch. And kudos to the dev for outstanding work, and for making an app I want to use. But it just doesn't fit me.
So with latest updates in WatchOS 9, I just use the built-in workout app. If I need maps of some sort, I use an app called Footpath (which I discovered here on HN a few years back when the dev posted). Now, I think the $25/year is a little pricey for what you get. On the other hand, I continue to pay it because it's so damned handy. Scrawl on a map with your meat stick, using a phone or tablet, and it snaps it to trails/roads and gives you the mileage. When you're happy with your route, sync it to your watch, sorted. And unlike Workoutdoors, it will then proceed to read you directions (if you so choose). The directions are so good, I've done a 15 mile run on single track in community forests around Anacortes, WA without looking at my watch. Imagine a forest with trails everywhere, intersecting each other, running parallel to each other, making for confusing navigation. But with enough "in 50 meters, turn left on Trail 239", "go past the bridge, then turn right onto Trail 123", "you are off course. The course is 150 feet to your left." It is truly impressive and very helpful when I'm in an unfamiliar area. Garmin can do the same, but it doesn't talk to you, the buzz on your wrist is easy to miss, and all you get is a little arrow at the bottom of the watch screen.
didn't mean to ramble on about Footpath. No relationship, just a satisfied customer (mostly; drop that subscription $5-10).
I'm a little confused, are the concerns with SSL and indexing related to your experience using it? I use it on Apple watch ultra, and was not aware of security issues, but the find the usability to be excellent in most cases.
Yeah, it's such a weird thing to gate behind a paid subscription too. It’s not like I get anything useful beyond minor feel good fuzzies from yearly recaps of that nature.
So were most of their mapping features. And their leaderboards. Their approach to monetization of late has been to sprinkle a little glitter on existing features and then put the entire feature behind a paywall and raise the price later.
If one has Garmin Connect, go to Reports/Progress Summary, choose date range (including "last year") from dropdown: more stats than you'll know what to do with.
And, yeah, I understand getting the stats isn't the point, but perhaps someone finds it helpful if Strava won't give up the data.
If someone is going to shit on your company, and you're in the same sports category as him, you do not want it to be Ray. This is going to blow up in their faces. To me he's kind of like the face of running, Strava, Wahoo, etc. Yikes.
Considering the cost of tubes, tires, etc these days.. So what? Maybe a runner sees it differently, but for a cyclist the value is there, and the cost is justified. I can't think about needing an inflation adjustment in salary and get mad when merchants do also.
Good on them. If people will pay it, it's the right move. Can't spend internet points anyway so hit me.
I assume Strava thinks about it like you: we have an affluent base who spends thousands a year on their sports, they can afford it.
On the other hand, I think most every consumer looks at it like they look at every other recurring service: is what I'm getting for my money worth it versus the competitors? The problem with Strava is that their premium features have been stagnant for years, and the feature set is provided by other companies and services for free or cheaper.
I think a good percentage of people are like myself and pay for Strava because I want to support them, and rarely use the premium features. Treating customers badly and not communicating about a price increase breaks the spell and causes the feature comparison and questions from customers.
> their premium features have been stagnant for years
Not my experience. They overhauled their route builder and made it subscription-only in 2021 - and kept improving it since. The route builder with the built-in heatmaps has no competition, and is a killer feature for many. Also there's the whole network effects thing where there Strava dominates social networking for recreational cyclists/runners
I think most every consumer looks at it like they look at every other recurring service: is what I'm getting for my money worth it versus the competitors?
This is me. With the proliferation of subscription services for just about anything software-related, I'm reassess all of my services a few times each year. I regularly unsubscribe/resubscribe to TV services and do the same with Zwift for indoor cycling.
> I think most every consumer looks at it like they look at every other recurring service
This may not address your comment directly, but I can feel a strawman forming that I'd like to get ahead of for others.
Fitness and entertainment are not comparable. If you're into fitness, you're in 100%, especially so at the competitive level. If you're an entertainment person, don't compare it to your Netflix bill, compare it to your grocery bill. Suddenly it makes sense.
Strava is being massively greedy here without showing innovation over the last years.
Worse the app is still plagued with import issues and inaccuracies such as the famous Strava tax where it always rounds down distances so people stop for instance a race when their running watch shows a 10.0 km run only to find out that it was just 9.995 km and Strava shows it as 9.99 km.
Somewhat small complaint, but this bit me. Did a half marathon and got a PR, stopped when my watch hit 13.1. Strava didn’t record this as a HM because it had the mileage at 13.09 or something. Very annoying and still irks me.
I think the point is that effort is not tracked as a 10k, so you don't see that in your PR history, etc. Plus it is just annoying to do something big for yourself and have a tool publicly shortchange you.
Is Strava really being greedy here? Last year at this time, software developers were jumping ship in every company to get huge raises at other companies. Salaries went through the roof. Now many tech companies are laying folks off.
What other options are there when you staff demands huge raises or leaves for greener pastures?
They don't need to show innovation when the product is complete. Twitter with the new innovative "For You" tab is much worse than when it was coasting with nothing new. Same with electron 1Password 8.
electron 1password 8 would be ok. if it worked as before or better, I mean enthusiast would've cared, but most people not. I mean they did not have a linux app before which they now have. but what is so stupid about 1password 8 is the new search, its just stupid.
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It's a hobby project of mine, because I wanted to build an app to track my hiking and skiing activities in a way I like it, including 3D visualization (I live in Switzerland, so it's usually always either up or down and that's hard to visualize on a 2D map) and easy comparison of past efforts on the same track.
You're more than welcome to try it out!
Wow this is freaking cool. Please do bikes!
I mean you can do bikes, it just takes a GPS track file (GPX or FIT) and plots the route. You can also try it out without creating an account (drag and drop your file on the front page: https://cubetrek.com)
Crude humor aside, that's enough to get me to go poke around later. Well done. I don't live in the Alps, but the hills around the Seattle Eastside area are enough to make good use of such a tool.
Like you, I run this training platform as side project. I have been doing this since 2008. No price increase since then (always 19EUR). I come from your neighboring country - Germany. If you see the change that we join forces, feel free to contact me via LinkedIn or email » https://www.nkn-it.de
I see CubeTrek more of a diary for your adventures and a progress tracker for outdoor sports.
Summit tracker for Strava. Updates your activity with the summited peak name. Go to the web app to see your full list of summits and a map.
Working on some big upgrades, like summit lists and way more stats.
http://hilly.run
Generating a list of all summits is a nice idea!
I canceled my Strava membership when I learned of the price hike news. I never got an email about it and couldn’t find any information on Strava about the price increase.
So I am no longer a paying member.
Your app look super cool, and would be great in Taiwan and Japan where it’s quite mountainous.
I’m interested in being a beta tester if you’re looking.
Here's the catch: Garmin only allows syncing of future activities. I can't access your past activities from your Garmin account. There's a way around it though: https://cubetrek.com/static/bulkdownload.html
Any of the code open source?
For technical details, there's a techstack rundown at the very bottom of the homepage (https://cubetrek.com)
Note - if you follow Strava's history, this isn't the first time they've been screwy with their commercial model. They had this funky "Training, Safety and Analysis" pack pricing program[0] that was confusing and they ultimately reverted back to the simple pricing model.
Ultimately the unit economics just don't work out in this space - 100 million people don't want to pay to hold their training data in a prettier interface when they can just get it for free with Garmin (Strava does more than that btw, but the people who are fanatical about that info are a miniority). Likewise, if they don't IPO, there are too few players in the space that would make a $1b+ acquisition.
[0] - https://www.bikeradar.com/news/strava-is-making-a-huge-chang...
I've met a massive community of cyclists: rode with cycling "celebs," trained with really strong amateurs, met a ton of people, learned about weekly group rides, learned about the best rides in the area, and made some very good friends.
Most of this was facilitated by Strava. I'm glad it hasn't devolved into just another shitty social media app, but I do feel like they are not capitalizing on what makes them unique. Right now that is being the de facto cycling social media network.
Yes Strava does do social stuff but they're a mixed bag and also free. I like that they don't do aggressive surveillance as a business model (it's one of the reasons I subscribe) but it's also pretty useless for organising and planning future rides.
Lots of people comment and give kudos after an event's happened but I don't know anyone using Strava to agree meeting up somewhere. All of that side of things seems to happen on Signal, Whatsapp or FB here.
I do like the route planning but I'm not sure I'll continue to subscribe just for that given the new prices.
This is my experience. Strava is the only social network where I've made friends. It is a net positive in life. Every other social network I tried to use caused me to fire some friends eventually.
Agreed. But this is a feature that only works on a free model. I'm not aware of any major social network makes money on 100% of its user community.
I get kudos from friends afar but the only person that Strava helped me connect with was someone that I chatted briefly at a stoplight with, who then found me via Strava flyover. But even then, we've never ridden together since.
By the time they got serious about adding features, everybody who wanted them had already signed up for alternative services that had them. Now Strava is playing catch up with a bunch of newer companies, and each one them is focused on a subset of Strava's users.
For me, I signed up for RideWithGPS ages before Strava had a good route planner. Now Strava has one, but now I'm happy with RWGPS and don't have any reason to switch back.
Other people wanted better training tools, and they found services that helped with that.
Meanwhile, we've all kept our Strava accounts, because that's where the leaderboards and groups are.
Where Strava adds value is as a social network. It's fun to share your activities and pictures with friends, and see what they have been doing. I've gotten good ideas for routes to try or races to enter.
As a long time Strava user it is frustrating to see how it has been stagnant for many years and they almost never add useful improvements. They still don't support triathlons (or any other multisport activities). Many of the segment and challenge leaderboards are full of obvious cheaters.
It's an amazing app, and I'd love to pay them for it, but unless they were to start releasing hardware that allowed me to see and meet up with my friends while riding, it's hard to justify hundreds of dollars just for something that my garmin or google maps/ridewithgps already does by default.
As someone in the tri community in vc funded silicon valley, I haven't heard of a better alternative to strava? would genuinely be interested in trying something better but all my running clubs still seem to be using strava
I use intervals.icu for planning my training - it has one main developer and he’s great. And it’s completely free unless you want to donate (which I do)
https://app.trainingpeaks.com/ - if you have a coach
For social stuff? They're the gorilla in the room. But, the pure social stuff isn't gated (comments/posts/groups).
For training analysis? TrainingPeaks, TrainerRoad, Wahoo Systm, intervals.icu, and others. Of course, some of those rely on Strava APIs to get data to/from devices.
I haven't used Strava, but Garmin seems to have a decent enough app and their devices are pretty popular amongst the running and cycling communities. I've been using Garmin's app and a watch for about 6 months now and couldn't be happier with my experience.
If all your buddies have Garmins and post public rides/runs, you get segment leaderboards, friends news feed, popularity routing, kudos, a training calendar that connects to TrainingPeaks and all the stats you could want.
Plus Garmin has very capable sports watches and smart body weight scales to consolidate all your fitness indicators in one place. Also, it's completely free.
The downside is the user base is much smaller so less segments and who knows if your KOM is the fastest time. You also won't get randos on the internet kudo'ing your rides/runs and boosting your ego. Also, no cool extensions like Elevate, StravaSauce, etc.
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Is private equity involved here?
Someone in my family was recently looking for a calorie tracker app. All the ones I was familiar with (and liked) from years ago had been acquired by private equity, which only crippled the free tier and make subscriptions ridiculously expensive.
Seems like the private equity playbook is to cut development to the bare bones, increase prices, and let the app rot while they burn the goodwill to turn it into short/medium term cashflow.
Nope. But VCs are involved.
> Seems like the private equity playbook is to cut development to the bare bones, increase prices, and let the app rot while they burn the goodwill to turn it into short/medium term cashflow.
Quite the opposite. Most PE does not do this btw, unless it's large cap ($1b+ valuation or higher). This is VC backed, and they are actually aggressively investing in growth (at all costs).
Just playing devils advocate
Anyway, don't want to get hung up on that, but more to agree with your point about the usability of swipe left/right/double-tap here, there, everywhere. I understand the dev is working with they have been given, but I'm just trying to run not be pre-occupied with my watch. And kudos to the dev for outstanding work, and for making an app I want to use. But it just doesn't fit me.
So with latest updates in WatchOS 9, I just use the built-in workout app. If I need maps of some sort, I use an app called Footpath (which I discovered here on HN a few years back when the dev posted). Now, I think the $25/year is a little pricey for what you get. On the other hand, I continue to pay it because it's so damned handy. Scrawl on a map with your meat stick, using a phone or tablet, and it snaps it to trails/roads and gives you the mileage. When you're happy with your route, sync it to your watch, sorted. And unlike Workoutdoors, it will then proceed to read you directions (if you so choose). The directions are so good, I've done a 15 mile run on single track in community forests around Anacortes, WA without looking at my watch. Imagine a forest with trails everywhere, intersecting each other, running parallel to each other, making for confusing navigation. But with enough "in 50 meters, turn left on Trail 239", "go past the bridge, then turn right onto Trail 123", "you are off course. The course is 150 feet to your left." It is truly impressive and very helpful when I'm in an unfamiliar area. Garmin can do the same, but it doesn't talk to you, the buzz on your wrist is easy to miss, and all you get is a little arrow at the bottom of the watch screen.
didn't mean to ramble on about Footpath. No relationship, just a satisfied customer (mostly; drop that subscription $5-10).
My favourite was the bait and switch email with this subject line:
“Your complete personalised 2022 stats recap is here”
Which was actually just an email telling me to upgrade to see my recap.
And, yeah, I understand getting the stats isn't the point, but perhaps someone finds it helpful if Strava won't give up the data.
Good on them. If people will pay it, it's the right move. Can't spend internet points anyway so hit me.
On the other hand, I think most every consumer looks at it like they look at every other recurring service: is what I'm getting for my money worth it versus the competitors? The problem with Strava is that their premium features have been stagnant for years, and the feature set is provided by other companies and services for free or cheaper.
I think a good percentage of people are like myself and pay for Strava because I want to support them, and rarely use the premium features. Treating customers badly and not communicating about a price increase breaks the spell and causes the feature comparison and questions from customers.
Not my experience. They overhauled their route builder and made it subscription-only in 2021 - and kept improving it since. The route builder with the built-in heatmaps has no competition, and is a killer feature for many. Also there's the whole network effects thing where there Strava dominates social networking for recreational cyclists/runners
This is me. With the proliferation of subscription services for just about anything software-related, I'm reassess all of my services a few times each year. I regularly unsubscribe/resubscribe to TV services and do the same with Zwift for indoor cycling.
This may not address your comment directly, but I can feel a strawman forming that I'd like to get ahead of for others.
Fitness and entertainment are not comparable. If you're into fitness, you're in 100%, especially so at the competitive level. If you're an entertainment person, don't compare it to your Netflix bill, compare it to your grocery bill. Suddenly it makes sense.
> Your annual membership will automatically renew on 22 August 2023 for £47.99
Hard to get excited about. Maybe it goes up to £54.99 as per the article, also hard to get excited about.
Worse the app is still plagued with import issues and inaccuracies such as the famous Strava tax where it always rounds down distances so people stop for instance a race when their running watch shows a 10.0 km run only to find out that it was just 9.995 km and Strava shows it as 9.99 km.
I always ride a little extra now.
That is a 10 meter difference between what Strava and the running watch report. That does not sound that atrocious?
What other options are there when you staff demands huge raises or leaves for greener pastures?