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kace91 · 3 years ago
>But in Spain, Tamariz is an icon, less like Blaine or David Copperfield and more like Kermit the Frog.

As a spaniard, I think this is a great way to put it.

It's not that we consider him a clown, or aren't aware how extraordinarily skilled he is. It's just that he's got such a one-off charismatic personality that your mind ends up classifying him as something separate from reality.

There's no need to set a stage or act like he's an otherworldly being. Tamariz just strolls by looking like he's just out of bed, casually defies physics laws, says goodbye and walks away, because he's Tamariz; in the same way that the Roadrunner can keep running through the drawing of a road because he's the roadrunner.

It's just the nature of things.

narag · 3 years ago
The comparison with Kermit is, for people of certain age, very natural. We first knew both of them at the same time. And Tamariz used to appear in TV for children. Not only he performed awesome tricks, he also made us laugh with his explosive style. Instant connection with children.
dieselgate · 3 years ago
The comparison to roadrunner is an awesome one for someone not familiar with Tamariz
felipeerias · 3 years ago
Tamariz comes on stage as a child’s idea of a wizard: someone eccentric, whimsical and somewhat messy who is constantly doing amazing things without much apparent thought or planning.
pvaldes · 3 years ago
Great way to see it. The man should be an honorific Sesame Street character. Is as close to a real life muppet as you can find.
fauria · 3 years ago
If you like Juan Tamariz, have a look at some of Dani DaOrtiz routines, another Spanish magician heavily influenced by Tamariz.

This one from 2022 for Penn and Teller is amazing: https://youtu.be/5_KcQt0z-eE

AndyNemmity · 3 years ago
I am a student of Dani DaOrtiz, and have traveled to Spain to train with him. Planning to do it again this year.
iainctduncan · 3 years ago
Wins the thread. You lucky dog! This is like having Michael Jordan as your basketball coach..
bambax · 3 years ago
> This one from 2022 for Penn and Teller is amazing

For some reason I'm not very interested in magic and I don't especially like being fooled. But this... this is well beyond anything I have ever seen. So thanks for that.

defective · 3 years ago
I was wondering about that, actually. I am interested in magic, very much, and I have seen tons and tons. I also felt like it was beyond anything I have ever seen, and wondered if it would be noticeably different to people who haven't seen as much as I have.
toast0 · 3 years ago
You might like Penn doing a rope trick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvz_JKqJiP8
drcongo · 3 years ago
I usually can't stand magicians, but absolutely loved this.
Lewton · 3 years ago
Fun fact (from penn jilettes podcast):

At the point where he’s tearing up a card, it’s chosen at random and he’s just taking the <2% risk that it won’t ruin the trick

iainctduncan · 3 years ago
fun follow up fact: if it is the card, I can guarantee he has an alternate ending so it will never ruin it - it will only change it. Tamariz is a master of the "outs" (as magicians call them).
toast0 · 3 years ago
It certainly isn't random. He's showing the chosen card at the top of the face up deck moments before. If you watch at 0.25x very carefully, you can see what happens next.

He's very good at what he does, and it's hard to spot in real time. Amazing card scanning, too.

(start around https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_KcQt0z-eE&t=229s )

have_faith · 3 years ago
Juan has a great book on his card system that I think Dani is using for this routine (or at least a modification of it). Years ago I spent some time learning it and I think it's one of those things that only gets more impressive when you understand the methodology. It takes so much practice to present a routine as casually as Dani does in this.
aidenn0 · 3 years ago
Many magic tricks, particularly close-up acts, are of the sort that knowing how it works only makes someone good at them even more impressive. I saw Ricky Jay once, and I know he must be doing false shuffles and switches, but his motions are so natural and consistent that I was just more impressed, not less.
AndyNemmity · 3 years ago
Dani has his own system, he doesn't use Juan's, but of course Juan's is great.
eezurr · 3 years ago
Pretty good, but this one by Javi Benitez can't even be slowed down on YouTube to figure out what he's doing. Its mind blowing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLB5oOq76c8

jxy · 3 years ago
Talk the talk, count the cards, do the math, end with sleight of hands. This is extremely amazing.

Right after the guy to his left said 21, Dani made a cut, so Dani knew exactly where the middle of the three cards he gave Alyson was, because he knew how many cards he gave to the two guys on his left and the other guy on his right. Dani made sure Alyson never shuffled her cards and only reversed the order when she put them one by one in the deck.

Orlan · 3 years ago
If you enjoyed reading this article, you’ll probably also enjoy Joshua Jay’s book How Magicians Think. Among other things, he describes the experience of spending a few days visiting Tamariz.

There’s a significant number of magicians worldwide that have learned Spanish just to spend time around Spain and around other Spanish magicians.

BaRRaKID · 3 years ago
To add to this, Juan Tamariz paved the road for other great (and arguably better) spanish magicians to follow him, and it's worth watching them to see how different and amazing Spanish magic is. To name a few check Dani DaOrtiz, Mario Lopez, Rúbi Ferez, and Juan Colas on Youtube and Instagram.
amval · 3 years ago
As a Spaniard I had of course heard of Tamariz, but I had no idea there was an Spanish "scene", so to speak.

Are you also spaniard or just into the topic?

iainctduncan · 3 years ago
Don't forget Woody Aragon! :-)
Orlan · 3 years ago
And Luis Olmedo - 2022 FISM winner! Great act.

Plus many more.

AndyNemmity · 3 years ago
I have not learned Spanish, but I do travel to Spain to work with Spanish Magicians, so this is quite true.
anthk · 3 years ago
If you can read Spanish, I suggest you "El cerebro ilusionista: el cerebro detrás de la magia" (The magician brain: the brain behind the magic). It explains you the link between neuroscience and magic tricks.

If you are learning Spanish, technical/science books share lot of Romance origin words which already exist in English, so half of the road it's paved to begin your learning path.

willcipriano · 3 years ago
No video?

Found this one: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=alfwdvQaLIE

New to me but I'm a fan.

jacquesm · 3 years ago
He makes the people around him feel like children again, so amazed by the magic. Incredible talent. The closest analogue I can find is Tommy Cooper, who had the same kind of act making you think that he really just can't do it only to come away with your mind utterly blown by how he totally owned you and wondering how far back it all started.
InCityDreams · 3 years ago
I turned down an opportunity to see TC live...boring, TV etc. A friend thtat went told me that the show 'started', Tommy came out - and for 20 minutes did nothing. Nothing. And the audience was howling, and crying, with laughter. And then all night.

Friends comment: TV did not do any justice at all to to the man (except, the tv execs could see his genius), as everything was 'rushed'. When something went 'wrong', live, he had time to react to the situation. The reaction had people on the floor and unable to breathe - for minutes, and minutes, and minutes.

By the way - it took my friend about 20 minutes just to explain nothing happened for twenty minutes, he was laughing so hard.

willcipriano · 3 years ago
He is what I imagine a wizard would be like.
feiss · 3 years ago
This one is also amazing. So clean.. https://youtu.be/tW_8iwB96BQ
noduerme · 3 years ago
Magic is a foreign world to me, but through acquaintances I had the pleasure of getting to know a close-up magician named Armando Lucero, who (I'm told) is considered one of the best in the world. I was invited to see him at the Magic Castle and it blew me away. It really was a childlike experience. But one of the most amazing tricks was a time some years later when I was traveling in another city, rented a car and drove around aimlessly till I found myself at a strip mall coffeehouse, and sat down with some coffee. At some point I turned around and sitting at the table behind me was Armando, wearing black, by himself with a coffee, a strip of felt and a deck of cards on the table. Practicing. It was an incredible coincidence. And I got a personal show.

The thing that really strikes me about this article is how the magician's philosophy of his art is so similar to what I've heard Armando wax poetic about: He studies neuroscience and psychology, has contributed to brain imaging studies, and seems irrepressibly fascinated with learning about complex subjects... not so much in the service of magic as out of a staggering intellectual curiosity. Magic is just his ideal vehicle for synthesizing that knowledge. It's unbelievably impressive, like watching someone who's thinking in the Assembly Language of the human brain.

uberuberuber · 3 years ago
His student Dani Daortiz is amazing to watch. https://youtu.be/5_KcQt0z-eE

The explanation of this 10 minute act using a non-gimmicked deck of cards is 3 hours long. https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/card-magic/dani-daortiz-fo...