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gnicholas · 4 years ago
Aren't Show HNs supposed to link to the actual product for people to play with, not a blog post about making money? There's nothing wrong with sharing wins here, or new products. But it feels 'off' to me to see a Show HN next to a braggy blog title (I'm used to seeing plenty of either on their own, though!).
trungdq88 · 4 years ago
Sorry if I misused the Show HN.

In this case, I want to show the journey and the story more than the product, and want to let people know I'm available for any questions like other Show HN posts.

(I don't think the product itself is very interesting for the HN crowd)

thunderbong · 4 years ago
IMHO, "Show HN" is to show your creations. You should put the title without "Show HN" when you're linking to a blog post, even if it is about a product that you've created.
edanm · 4 years ago
I've been on HN for many years and also wouldn't have thought of this distinction. The post was interesting and relevant, thanks for posting it!
capableweb · 4 years ago
On the "Show HN" page that shows all the Show HNs, there is a link in the top to the rules for Show HN, in case you've missed it. It's pointing to https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

TLDR is:

> Show HN is for something you've made that other people can play with. HN users can try it out, give you feedback, and ask questions in the thread.

> Off topic: blog posts, sign-up pages, newsletters, lists, and other reading material. Those can't be tried out, so can't be Show HNs. Make a regular submission instead.

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santiagobasulto · 4 years ago
I find your post very interesting. I don’t care what the “rules” about Show HN are, this is a good read and that’s it. Thanks for sharing.
xwdv · 4 years ago
He’s showing us the money.
didntknowya · 4 years ago
yes but sometimes I feel like a bit of context about why or how someone makes a product helps.
kirso · 4 years ago
If you would have known the author - you would know he is one of the most humble indie hackers out there.

Maybe the title is misleading but totally deserves the upvotes, comments and attention. Just one more click away from the product is not a big deal...

trungdq88 · 4 years ago
Hello HN,

I see another post sharing their success micro startups today on HN so I thought I should share mine.

I started working on this browser extension for Twitter 8 months ago.

It took 3 months to reach $60/mo, 3 more to reach $400/mo, and 2 more to reach $3K/mo – where I am now.

When I start, I had 0 followers on Twitter. When it reaches $400/mo, I quit my job. I now live freely from corporate drama and travel as much as I can while building products I love.

I share my entire journey publicly on Twitter and my newsletter, including revenue, stats, product launch process, and marketing strategies, etc.

I just want to say that opportunities are everywhere, and it's never easier to start a profitable micro startup to sustain yourself and live an independent life.

Cheers!

ignoramous · 4 years ago
Some browser extensions turned into paid products have morphed into $B dollar companies: (postman.com) https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/mQkDX9-zvcI

Good luck!

trungdq88 · 4 years ago
Thanks! :)
elpakal · 4 years ago
Your products all look very well done - just curious, do you build them all yourself (including your awesome landing page)?

Congrats on the early growth and best of luck. What a great product - I’ll be looking out for your post on how you built your 13.9k audience!

trungdq88 · 4 years ago
Yes, I'm a 1-man army :)

I used to work on frontend/backend/mobile/devops, so I have the advantage of doing everything on my own.

Thanks for the kind words! I'll write another piece about my audience building journey soon!

xwdv · 4 years ago
Isn’t quitting at $400/month a bit premature? That’s $4800 a year, which isn’t even more than one paycheck from a software engineering job.
czottmann · 4 years ago
Depends on where on Earth you live, I guess.
suigetsusake · 4 years ago
Being able to see a quick video of each feature in the pricing page is a genius idea !

How do you generate those and keep them up to date though ?

Congrats for your success

globalise83 · 4 years ago
Good question!! - there is definitely a market for a product for automatically capturing UI screenshots and demos on every UI release, with a permalink usable in documentation that will always show the latest image / video. Could be driven by an existing automated test framework. I know this as a web UI product owner with several years experience in enterprise software doing documentation updates after new features are added.
trungdq88 · 4 years ago
Thanks!

I recorded every single feature with LICECap and update them manually.

More details here: https://tdinh.notion.site/Every-pricing-page-should-have-GIF...

santiagobasulto · 4 years ago
How do you source the data to provide such analytics? Do you have to be constantly scraping Twitter?
trungdq88 · 4 years ago
Yes :)

On average, I send 3 requests/minute/user to Twitter API.

kubami · 4 years ago
How did you build the follower base in such a short time?
trungdq88 · 4 years ago
I spent 3 hours/day everyday for a few months straight. I'll write about it in more details in my next newsletter issue :)
longsangstan · 4 years ago
How did u grow the twitter followers at the start?
trungdq88 · 4 years ago
I'll write about that soon in my newsletter.
billconan · 4 years ago
which payment service do you use?
trungdq88 · 4 years ago
I use Paddle.com
deathemperor · 4 years ago
congratz on the success of new launch, Trung.
trungdq88 · 4 years ago
Thanks! Do we know each other? :)
abhishekjha · 4 years ago
How long have you been programming professionally? YOE?
trungdq88 · 4 years ago
7 years
Timwi · 4 years ago
Hate to be the party pooper, but the fact that you could talk about nothing but marketing and money and never spend a single word telling us what the software even does, speaks volumes on where your priorities lie. I am left with the impression that the software probably does nothing special, or even useful, and if I ever have any issues with it or suggestions for improvement, I will probably be completely ignored unless I come up with a way it would make you more money. I find it strange that this type of personality even calls themselves a hacker.
have_faith · 4 years ago
This sentence seems to sum up why the money was important to him

> I finally have the confidence to take things a bit slowly, take care more of myself, and go on this vacation I really need.

On top of that we don't know what else the money will help with (maybe they have an aging parent to take care of, we don't know).

Your comment reads in a very overyly negative tone to me when the article seems to purposely exist to go over the financial aspect of the product.

trungdq88 · 4 years ago
Sorry that the post give you that impression.

I do have some links in the post that link to the product, but yeah I agree the context is a bit vague for the HN crowd. I added a small notice to the post hopefully to fix it.

FYI, I'm not trying to promote the product, it's the story I want to share.

Cheers!

sdiepend · 4 years ago
I really appreciate you taking your chances and building something for yourself and being able the live off of it is even better. I'd call it "hack your life" ;) and find Timwi's reaction overly negative.

I also share the feeling it could have been a Tell HN instead of a Show HN.

But let's be honest, of course you want to promote your product. It's not a bad thing to admit that.

wila · 4 years ago
Thank you, it was an interesting read.
Kiro · 4 years ago
Obnoxious comment with a lot of unfounded presumptions. Why so hostile?
dymk · 4 years ago
Because I don’t even know what the product is after glancing at the page
achairapart · 4 years ago
You should see Marketing as a multiplier of the value of a product. That's it, it can grow the value of your product by 1.5x, 15x or 1500x.

There may be some wizards (or con-men) that can multiply a zero in a greater value, but that's not the norm for sure.

At the end you can have a great product even without marketing, but usually not the other way around.

leke · 4 years ago
I'm a little suspicious that this could be marketing by one of those guys that message extension authors to sell their user's data. Kind of a, hey look, you could be making money. Why don't you say yes the next time I message you.
vsnf · 4 years ago
Something I’ve noticed in many of these threads showcasing successful products is that they all focus on marketing. Advertising software, analytics software, etc. I rarely (never?) see any one post about their successful non marketing solution.
jameshush · 4 years ago
Selling more sales (aka marketing) is the ultimate value proposition. Google and FB print money because they call up business and say “Pay us $$ and we’ll give you $$$”.
Gigachad · 4 years ago
I wonder how much of it is a zero sum game. Some amount of advertising would induce impulse purchase but surely some of it like marketing for a plumber just causes sales to be redirected to the one who spent the most on marketing rather than actually creating new sales.
godmode2019 · 4 years ago
Maybe people who think about marketing problems, tend to have more marketing knowledge and are better at marketing their own products and are people more likely to post on websites like this promoting their products.

I know I have folders and folders of unmarketed products.

jcims · 4 years ago
That's why it's easy for banks to make money, it's just sitting there.
LudwigNagasena · 4 years ago
During a gold rush, sell shovels.
quickthrower2 · 4 years ago
Sell services to shovel sellers.
dillondoyle · 4 years ago
He also makes devutils.app which is very 'HN-er' and from his blog looks like it's a good chunk of his ncome!
mrtksn · 4 years ago
I don't think it's about marketing. I think it's because it solves an immediate problem or gives people something that they want and as it happens, the opportunities for the folks at HN or Producthunt are in that area because it's not a solved problem unlike things like developer tools, messaging or e-mail.

Think about it, what makes you funny inside? Knowing more about people or sending messages through slightly different UI?

trungdq88 · 4 years ago
My other product is a developer app, which I also considered successful :) (see my previous Show HN posts)
vcool07 · 4 years ago
Maybe a wild guess, but anything thats not related to ads/marketing/analytics etc., are too difficult to monetize by a solo founder ? Or maybe the other areas too difficult to get into not just in terms of software complexity, but in terms of support requirement , availability SLAs etc ?
marban · 4 years ago
Vanity (metrics) is a great sales driver.
d3vmax · 4 years ago
Great job. Love the value provided, design and landing page too. Also its great you made a mobile app as well.

I don't care what others tell you. All it takes is 1 more click to check out your whole product.

You are providing value to those who use twitter heavily and don't get enough data from twitter to take meaningful action.

Similarly I find Instagram to provide very basic analytics / data, do you want to collab on creating something similar for Instagram or snap?

trungdq88 · 4 years ago
Thank you for the kind words! As of now I don't have enough capacity to take on another project, but let's keep in touch!
d3vmax · 4 years ago
Fair enough. Thanks. Keep up the great work.
turblety · 4 years ago
I'm still not 100% sure, but I think the product is BlackMagic.so, at the link: https://blackmagic.so/

This post should really link to the product, not the blog post.

trungdq88 · 4 years ago
Yes it is the product. Thank you and noted on linking the product!
jamescampbell · 4 years ago
Very cool and inspiring. Good luck getting to $10k MRR. I think building out a large community of 9900 free users was very smart for this type of app.
trungdq88 · 4 years ago
Thank you!
lifeisstillgood · 4 years ago
It's an interesting platform approach - create a browser extension aimed at enhancing / integrating into a single page - there must be a large number of individual targets - every enterprise saas?

And it may even work for cross site integration?

trungdq88 · 4 years ago
That's actually a very good way to look for new ideas!
lifeisstillgood · 4 years ago
That's what I was thinking - one could churn out a large number of extensions - one for each saas product, and see what sticks.