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flobosg · 5 years ago
Not the longest, but my favorite long-running experiment is the E. coli LTEE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_ex...

EDIT: I just realized that the LTEE and Beal’s experiment are being conducted at the same place, Michigan State University!

swimfar · 5 years ago
A pitch drop experiment started in 1927 is what I thought of when I read the title:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitch_drop_experiment

puzzledobserver · 5 years ago
It's amazing how such long experiments are organized. My first thought when I read "longest-running experiment" was the Rothamstead Park Grass Experiment.

I'm accustomed to thinking of Big Science as the LHCs and the Human Genome Project and the Human Brain Projects of the world, but there might be a category of experiments that are instances of Long-Term Science.

weinzierl · 5 years ago
> It's amazing how such long experiments are organized.

.. and how they are financed. Sometimes I wonder what humanity missed because experiments that only yield after more than one generation are rare.

koolba · 5 years ago
That is a very cool experiment and a fantastic read!

It reminds me of my own adventures making yogurt, each generation carried forward to the next batch. Being able to freeze the samples (for the ecoli, not the yogurt!) is really neat. At anytime they rewind the clock to test an ancestor.

flobosg · 5 years ago
Or, as Stephen Jay Gould said, replaying life’s tape.
gnarbarian · 5 years ago
I find this both reassuring and terrifying. It's reassuring because if life was completely wiped out on the planet there would be trillions of seeds waiting for the right conditions to germinate and repopulate the Earth with life.

It's terrifying because why would this have evolved?

PMan74 · 5 years ago
Sowing wildflowers is becoming more popular here in Ireland. You can buy wildflower mixes or seed bombs but the expert view is to just stop mowing, there are enough dormant seeds in the soil. And those that are present are generally more suitable to the local environment than anything you'd introduce.

Reassuring as you say.

https://pollinators.ie/wildflowers-to-plant-or-not-to-plant/

noneeeed · 5 years ago
A lot of the earth is frequently inhospitable to plant life, so it makes sense that the ones that have survived to the modern day would be able to cope with hard times.

Check out the Death Valley super blooms, they are amazing. Vast areas of the desert will just spring to life, polinate and spread seeds for the next generation, many/most of which will not grow for years.

https://rove.me/to/death-valley/super-bloom

nickserv · 5 years ago
This isn't the first mass extinction the planet has seen.
gnarbarian · 5 years ago
Yep. This is why I am dead set on one of those tickets to Mars.
trompetenaccoun · 5 years ago
You don't need extinction events for it to be an advantage for seeds to be more resilient.
yitchelle · 5 years ago
A very good episode on Science Vs podcast on this very subject.

https://gimletmedia.com/shows/science-vs/emhxgkd/a-seedy-lat...

martyvis · 5 years ago
Presumably the curators of the Svalbard Global Seed Vault [1] regularly test (or at least intend to as it is fairly new) the efficacy of their storage for different types of seeds?

1. https://www.regjeringen.no/en/topics/food-fisheries-and-agri...

aliswe · 5 years ago
Don't forget the 2000-year old date seed that sprouted!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judean_date_palm

permo-w · 5 years ago
I despise articles written like this

Clickbait Headline

informative intro

Real Article Begins: Once upon a time…

Please just tell me the information, I’m not here to read a story

voisin · 5 years ago
Seems like a good problem to tackle with NLP text summarization.

Text summarization is already pretty good for the real article issue you mentioned. I wonder if the same process could be applied in reverse to identify low quality headlines too.

permo-w · 5 years ago
I have beta access to Open AI, so I could definitely give that a go when I’ve finished my exams
mhb · 5 years ago
Well, journalists used to be taught the inverted pyramid concept. Maybe they've become preoccupied with other agenda.
permo-w · 5 years ago
The Economist Style Guide suggested summarising in the first few lines, then elaborating after that
JoeAltmaier · 5 years ago
Its four pages including large pictures. Shorter than a children's book. Have a heart - its an interesting story with lots of detail packed into those 20 paragraphs.
ballenf · 5 years ago
I don't get moralizing the point. And if you want to go that route, I'd argue that forcing someone who is coming to you based on a headline's promise to sift through a short children's book is disrespectful and rude.

But maybe it's a generational thing and stories are what more people expect now. I bet NYT knows its audience better than I do.

dandellion · 5 years ago
I'm the same and it's not like I do it on purpose. I simply cannot enjoy the style, I like the important information up front. If I felt like reading a children's book I'd go grab a children's book. If I'm reading an informational article I want it to read like an informational article.
permo-w · 5 years ago
I understand where you’re coming from, and I’m a proponent of story-telling, but give me the main points first, then let me read the story of if I feel like it.

To be more cynical, this is because it’s behind a paywall. They want to entice you with a little morsel of information, get you hooked into a story, then cut you off at the paywall.

If they gave away all the info in the first few lines, less people would want to keep reading

billynomates111 · 5 years ago
I couldn't agree more. Anyone got a tldr to share?
supernova87a · 5 years ago
I recall an episode of a daily TV series in Japan where they found seeds from a several thousand year old archaeological dig, which yielded a still viable magnolia tree when planted today.

And there was that story just recently about bacteria found in the deep mantle, dormant for a couple million (?) years, that grew when cultured.

Amazing how patiently life can wait for the moment to be revived again, with no promise or knowledge of when the day may come.

varispeed · 5 years ago
In that state there is no awareness, so you can't really be patient as you don't feel the passing time. It's kind of like a time machine.