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Posted by u/dalke 5 years ago
Ask HN: What can replace my iPod for podcast listening?
My 16GB 5th gen iPod nano is dying. I'm looking for a replacement. Years ago Apple stopped selling anything except the iPod Touch, which is too large and fragile for me. I want something that fits into my pocket, with a long battery life.

"Long" means can be used for a couple of days without needing a charge, or in standby for weeks. As an example of "too fragile", I had a 7th gen. iPod with touch screen that broke after a month or two of the same treatment my 5th gen. handled for years. I went back to my 5th gen. after that.

I only need it for podcasts. I like dedicated hardware to reduce the temptation to connect to the world.

Since Apple decided to split up iTunes into different apps (I haven't upgraded my Mac yet, to keep iTunes), I'm also fine with switching to a new app to manage podcasts.

Any suggestions?

greenyouse · 5 years ago
You could bump up to an iPod mini v2 and optionally swap out the internals for some extra storage space. The stock battery with the latest apple firmware lasts about 18 hours with 450mAh. There are better 1300mAh+ batteries that offer a lot longer time though. Like others have mentioned Rockbox firmware is also available and will increase the battery life too.

The iFixit site has nice repair articles for how to change the internals. An upgraded SDXC memory card with 128GB of space runs about $30. You could also buy a modded mini with this kind of storage off ebay for around $125 but it probably won't have the nicer battery life.

If you really like the nano you could also swap out the nano battery to bring it back to life. It doesn't look like the storage is replaceable though.

nemosaltat · 5 years ago
I have done this for a handful of friends and in one case I also soldered in a Bluetooth transmitter. With a little ffmpeg magic + rockbox you can even play black and white videos.
unicornporn · 5 years ago
Sansa Clip with Rockbox firmware[1].

[1] https://www.rockbox.org/

blobdon · 5 years ago
As a bonus, enabling Timestretch [1], then adjusting playback speed [2] gets you up to 2.5x playback without affecting the pitch of the speakers' voices (i.e. no Alvin and the Chipmunks).

[1] http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-gigabeats/rockbox... [2] http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-gigabeats/rockbox...

callahad · 5 years ago
I thought the last Clip that supported Rockbox went out of production a few years ago?

I also have a very fuzzy recollection that the batteries weren't especially replaceable, meaning we've got a finite time before they're all bricks...

netmare · 5 years ago
I'm still using the original Clip I got back in 2008. It's not supported by Rockbox, but I'm perfectly happy with the last official firmware. The OLED has deteriorated, but it's still fine indoors (it was almost impossible to read outdoors from the get-go).

The battery lasted around 14 hours when it was new, now I'm getting roughly half of that. I seem to remember someone on the now defunct anythingbutipod.com replacing the battery, although they had to break the player apart to get inside.

Even the damn plastic clip on the back still works!

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dalke · 5 years ago
Sweet! The local store has a Sansa Clip in stock! I'll try it out!

What's the advantage of Rockbox firmware over what it comes with?

temny · 5 years ago
Be careful - currently available Sansa Clip Jam and Sansa Clip Sport are not supported by Rockbox firmware. Supported versions are Sansa Clip+ and Sansa Clip Zip (and some even older models).

Killer feature of Rockbox for me is possibility to change playback speed while maintaining original pitch. As most audiobooks and podcasts I prefer to listen on 120-130% speed.

JansjoFromIkea · 5 years ago
Most recent Sansa Clip models dont support Rockbox iirc, you'll probably want a refurbished Clip+ or something like that.
0-_-0 · 5 years ago
Automatic bookmarks, which is very useful for podcasts. The file automatically continues where you left off last time. Oh, and you can also play DOOM on it of course!

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40four · 5 years ago
I can vouch for the Sansa clip. I used one heavily, years ago for this exact purpose. Mostly only podcast listening. Very small & lightweight, long battery life.

Was unaware of the Rockbox firmware, looks interesting.

serf · 5 years ago
>I only need it for podcasts. I like dedicated hardware to reduce the temptation to connect to the world.

the newer cell-phone-yet-unconnected Sony Walkmans are pretty neat, and they have some nice DAC features.

The price is steep, but not Apple steep.

dalke · 5 years ago
Thanks for the pointer! I was put off by the Walkman when I read at https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00104669 that "The preinstalled Music player on the Walkman® media player doesn't support podcasts. If you want to play podcasts, use the Media Go™ software to transfer the audio file, then install an application from the Google Play™ store on your device that supports podcasts."

Which means then figuring out that process. And I couldn't find people describing how they used a Walkman for listening to podcasts.

izacus · 5 years ago
I'm pretty sure you can just install Android podcasting app (any of them) and use them to download songs directly.

At least on Android versions of the Walkmans.

polytely · 5 years ago
Just download Podcast Addict, and subscribe to your favourite podcasts.
bipson · 5 years ago
Hm, I don't know, the NW-E390 SERIES looks like it fulfills the requirements, if such a reduced functionality is acceptable to OP.

Don't know what you could/should use on the software side though to manage the content... Life has changed a lot since I last used strictly offline devices, and not only for the better.

square_usual · 5 years ago
Have you tried looking for another iPod nano on ebay? Considering you seem fine with your current setup, you can keep it going for as long as you want.
dalke · 5 years ago
Oops, I didn't explain that part.

One of the joys of the iPod was that I didn't really have to worry about charging it on a regular schedule. It would hold its charge for a long time. Eg, I took it bike camping and listened to Hardcore History's multi-part episode on Genghis Khan over a couple of days, with no need to charge up.

That's no longer the case. The battery life has gotten worse over the last couple of years, likely from age. It now doesn't hold a charge for more than a couple of days. I suspect that if I buy another old iPod then its battery will also be 10 years old and not in good shape.

If I don't find a good option for new hardware, then used is definitely a backup alternative!

haspoken · 5 years ago
Apple does show they will do battery service on a 5g nano for $59, so it might be worth checking. Ifixit has a detailed guide, you might find a third party iphone repair shop willing to do the work.

https://support.apple.com/ipod/repair/service/pricing

cvburgess · 5 years ago
Have you tried Mighty? It supports anything on Spotify. I use it for podcasts daily and I sync playlists of music to it as well for offline listening. It’s been great for my 11 year old mentee as I can update his Mighty with new music every week when we meet and not worry about giving him a screen that can get him in trouble at school or with his mom.

https://bemighty.com/

izacus · 5 years ago
Does it support podcasts? Because most of those 3rd party integrators don't support podcasts on Spotify (e.g. this includes my Galaxy Watch or even older Spotify Connect speakers).
virtual_void · 5 years ago
Yup. I often use it to take podcasts on my run.

There can be some that won’t sync even though you can play them on spotify. This is apparently due to some licensing restrictions. The bbc is the main offender which i find enraging.

atestu · 5 years ago
On their site it says the battery life is only 5 hours…
mywacaday · 5 years ago
How does the menu work with no screen?
virtual_void · 5 years ago
If you’re referring to the hamburger-looking button then that is the playlist button.

Hitting it cycles through the playlists and speaks the name of each one.

justhw · 5 years ago
Haven't seen anyone yet suggesting a watch perhaps. I have a Garmin smart watch which comes with offline syncing for spotify and amazon or even direct mp3 upload. Works flawlessly out in nature and lasts days.
Godel_unicode · 5 years ago
This was my first thought as well, my vivoactive 3 music supports Spotify which has decent podcast support and has really good battery life. The only potential downside is the high jaccard similarity between people who want a dedicated music player and people who want a headphone jack, which the watches lack.
damontal · 5 years ago
dalke · 5 years ago
Beyond my skill and interest - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24978977 .
SllX · 5 years ago
eBay, but it depends on your budget.

You can find regular iPods and modded iPods for more than MSRP. I haven’t yet found anything I like more than an iPod though.

slezyr · 5 years ago
Holy... No. Seriously. Nope.
synack · 5 years ago
I'd go with any device that Rockbox (https://www.rockbox.org/) has a stable port for. I've been using a SanDisk Sansa Clip+ for 10 years and am still very happy with it.
dalke · 5 years ago
It looks like most of those are old hardware. So far only see xDuoo as a new one.

What do you use for podcast management?

dalke · 5 years ago
Little did I realize that SanDisk Clips are still being made ... and in-stock locally. So I'll try this option.
mhd · 5 years ago
Yeah, I was really sad when my Clip Zip recently didn't come on (screen is totally glitched out), and I'm currently looking for a replacement for that, too.

I've got this xDuoo X3 (bought it ages ago), which apparently has a pretty good DAC and is able to load from two SDCards, and has a third-party Rockbox implementation.

There's a new version ot (X3 II), which has a much larger display.