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hackuser · 8 years ago
Thunderbird also seems to be facing a massive rewrite.[0] Are there any good FLOSS, local (with a local mail store, if desired), cross-platform, secure (with security protocols implemented) email clients that support standard features and have a reliable future? And any of those that I could give to non-technical end users?

I know the names of a few, but I haven't tried them: Sylpheed, Claws, Evolution (cross-platform?), Kmail (cross-platform?), N1 by Nylon, MailPile (FLOSS?) ...

[0] See this discussion, for example: https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2017-March/00...

VSpike · 8 years ago
cJ0th · 8 years ago
Uh ... Thanks for sharing the link as I didn't know that! Fortunately, they say they aim to be as close to the current TB as possible. So that gives me some hope. I worry that some highly individual use-cases will probably not work anymore in the future, though.

For example, if they move the content of the RSS feeds into a database (They'll keep RSS feeds .. right?) my two-line bash script for automatically downloading videos from links contained in one feed wouldn't work anymore ;)

jasonjayr · 8 years ago
There's a developer news update for April 2017:

http://www.pmail.com/devnews.htm

Valodim · 8 years ago
I really wasn't sure whether this post is an April fool's joke at first. Besides the WaP lightheartednes, the list of things he has already done sound like a huge amount of work. Assuming he just ricked me with the date, what a trooper! Kudos
bootload · 8 years ago
best read, new product written while maintaining ability to read old message formats.
hyyypr · 8 years ago
Unrelated but their website is remarkably well rendered in w3m.

http://imgur.com/a/QOdMd

drannex · 8 years ago
If I had just seen that, I would have just assumed that was the site!
ryanmarsh · 8 years ago
Check out the email etiquette page http://www.pmail.com/etqtte.htm
Waterluvian · 8 years ago
"This will often help a postmaster recognize the real recipient of the message if the address is invalid."

There were services where humans actually sometimes tried to manually route an email?

sundvor · 8 years ago
You must be new here. postmaster@domain.tld used to be working mailboxes. :)

EDIT: Ah, http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html states it should still be so.

shdon · 8 years ago
Heh, I still use Pegasus as my primary email client. Not so much because I really like it (though I can't say that I dislike it, as I've gotten used to it in the past 21 years), but mostly because I haven't found any other email clients that are better. Pegasus Mail is quite slow with IMAP even on a LAN and has some weird issues, but its mail filtering ability is really flexible. I've tried Thunderbird, Sylpheed, Outlook, Outlook Express, even Windows Mail and Apple Mail, and every one of those annoys me no end. For me, Pegasus Mail is not necessarily the best, but still the route of least annoyance.
dddw · 8 years ago
give mailmate (osx) a spin, has nice filtering options
shdon · 8 years ago
Thanks, I'll give it a try. I only use Mac OS at work, though, where my needs are a little different.

In the documentation for MailMate, I don't see the kind of filtering that I use with Pegasus Mail. This is one of the things I miss most in all other clients: I prefer to collect the mails in my inbox, without filtering. When I close the inbox, Pegasus runs a large ruleset with hundreds of rules, moving all the read mail to archive folders and leaving the unread mail in the inbox. I've not yet seen any other client capable of doing this.

narag · 8 years ago
I had no idea it still exists. I stopped using it like more than 15 years ago after too many corporate server obstacles. I believed that it had been discontinued... or maybe it was Eudora?
itomato · 8 years ago
>The other major issue with Pegasus Mail is that it uses a proprietary third-party product as its core editor, and I would not be able to take that product with me into an Open Source environment.

Portability issues aside, that's a questionable foundation.

mseebach · 8 years ago
Yeah, it seems a bit short sighted that he didn't just grab one of the many free, open source, fully featured cross-platform text editors available in 1993.
bshimmin · 8 years ago
Do a view source on that page to get some lovely 90's era HTML nostalgia. (If you're wondering why the in-page menu behaves like that... it's because they're images, swapped out for their hover state with JavaScript, with the off state actually an animated GIF!)
roemerb · 8 years ago
No CSS! Fantastic
unicornporn · 8 years ago
Ha!!! That header image has been there for a while, I can tell you https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20000510165803/http://www.p....

If I recall things right this had a built in email list management. I had acquired a CSV of all the student and staff addresses. While I was goofing around with this I accidentally sent out a to a really strange email to everybody (but it kind of looked like it was addressed to them because everybody was in BCC). Next day at school was terrible.