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wsb_mod2 commented on /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story old.reddit.com/r/StableDi... · Posted by u/BudaDude

nonbirithm · 3 years ago

I did actually submit a link to a GitHub issue about this, but it seems to have been blocked by HN. I can see the post title when I'm logged in but as a guest it doesn't show anything at all. The post wasn't even flagged as dead. It doesn't show up in my submitted links list when logged out either.

I don't know if it tripped an internal filter on HN or something. Here is the link to the post in case you're curious.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33146603

In case it matters I used the GitHub issue title as the name of the post - "Stable-diffusion-webui is using stolen code".

Here is the actual link I posted.

https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/issu...

wsb_mod2 · 3 years ago

Showing up as a blank page for me. Fascinating.

https://i.imgur.com/NzFX5Cz.png

wsb_mod2 commented on /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story old.reddit.com/r/StableDi... · Posted by u/BudaDude

pnathan · 3 years ago

reddit mod management is a bit haywire. I am mod at a rather largish subreddit (> 750K subs/readers), and despite the top mod being gone from the subreddit for something like 6? years now and virtually inactive on reddit, I can't get him removed. I've gone through channels but, sigh.

wsb_mod2 · 3 years ago

When did you go through the process?

Reddit recently updated its top mod removal process (recently as in 5 days ago) and dramatically weakened requirements for removing top mods.

More information on that here: https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/xwim7v/updates_to_...

wsb_mod commented on /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story old.reddit.com/r/StableDi... · Posted by u/BudaDude

codeflo · 3 years ago

So, to summarize: Both Reddit and Discord force transfered seemingly officially named communities to the trademark owning entity. That sucks, but it’s also something that social media companies have been doing 10 times a week since forever. Is there something special about this instance that makes it news?

wsb_mod · 3 years ago

Reddit did not "force transfer" the community, the top moderator was convinced to hand it over.

Reddit, for all its faults, goes to great lengths to give its moderators latitude and discretion to operate their communities, and only steps in as an absolute last resort.

wsb_mod2 commented on /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story old.reddit.com/r/StableDi... · Posted by u/BudaDude

webdoodle · 3 years ago

Could you link to the Mod Summit your talking about? I wonder if 'sub transitions' is code for stealing subreddits from mods the admins don't politically agree with.

wsb_mod2 · 3 years ago

I cannot, as it was invite only. (Edit: As lrae said)

The context is more around how communities should be able to naturally transition as opposed to only doing so during event-driven periods of great distress (E.g. r/AntiWork -> r/WorkReform).

There doesn't seem to be much post-summit discussion about it that I can find. I suspect because it's largely been overshadowed by other, more... spicy, topics.

wsb_mod commented on /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story old.reddit.com/r/StableDi... · Posted by u/BudaDude

KaoruAoiShiho · 3 years ago

OP handed over the subreddit willingly and did not say they wanted it back... There really isn't a big deal other than supposed possible censorship and conflict of interest, but AFAIK there's been no hate threads censored anyway. The only thing "censored" was auto's webUI being removed from the stickied guide and the illegal novelAI leak torrent being removed.

wsb_mod · 3 years ago

There's nothing to indicate they wanted to leave. They are still a mod there (without full perms).

They handed over the subreddit under a promise that was immediately broken by the other party. So yes, I suppose you could say they handed it over willingly, but they did so about as willingly as handing money over to an advance-fee scam.

However, this is largely irrelevant because what Reddit truly cares about (insofar as community management) is stability, and I think it's fair to say the community is very unstable right now, and is unlikely regain that stability.

wsb_mod2 commented on /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story old.reddit.com/r/StableDi... · Posted by u/BudaDude

TekMol · 3 years ago

I recently posted on a subreddit that has the name of a big company.

The post became popular.

I could not believe my eyes, when some hours later, the post was edited.

I have never seen that before. Mods cannot edit users posts, right? Do some companies have superpowers on their sub, or did they reach out to Reddit to change the post?

wsb_mod2 · 3 years ago

There is no mechanism to enable mods to edit user posts. If what you're saying is correct, it would be quite the controversy.

Use https://camas.unddit.com/ to look at the original version of your post, or share it here. You can also hover over the timestamp on old.reddit.com to show the last edit date.

wsb_mod2 commented on /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story old.reddit.com/r/StableDi... · Posted by u/BudaDude

baxtr · 3 years ago

Yeah, because they want to save on mod costs, I guess. Related to that: I am wondering, does @dang get a monthly paycheck for his incredible work?

wsb_mod2 · 3 years ago

Yup, @dang is paid.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23810452

wsb_mod commented on /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story old.reddit.com/r/StableDi... · Posted by u/BudaDude

wsb_mod · 3 years ago

Unbelievable behavior from SD. The subreddit is currently an unmoderated mess, illustrating they have no clue how to run the community.

I am unsurprised at Discord's behavior, handing over a server like that. They have essentially been hostile when not silent to us at WSB with our 600K user server.

Reddit has an opportunity to do better here. Hand back control of r/StableDiffusion back to OP.

Steve Huffman alluded to the disaster that is sub transitions in the recent Mod Summit. If someone at Reddit is reading this, this is your opportunity to do better.

wsb_mod2 commented on Stop measuring community engagement rosie.land/posts/stop-mea... · Posted by u/rosiesherry

wsb_mod2 · 4 years ago

The profit motive is being blamed here for optimizing for engagement.

But how do you assess progress when you remove all desire to monetize?

I run r/WallStreetBets and "quality" is an extremely nebulous term.

I look for things like "novelty", "thought-provoking / well reasoned commentary", "original content", "authenticity", "self-awareness" or "primary research". But these are human assessed metrics.

Some more easily measurable metrics might include, "length of submissions", or "number of outbound links excluding blacklisted domains". Or even "number of tickers or quality-correlated keywords mentioned".

All these metrics have very clear downsides, and if generally well-known, become useless. Interestingly, a score too high can also result in something being unlikely to be authentic.

Another challenge is your relationship with users. Surprisingly, moderators are not innately adversarial to users, they can also promote content through other channels (discord, twitter) or sticky threads for a viewership boost.

So, even without a profit motive, what do you do?

wsb_mod2 commented on Ask HN: What is your “I don't care if this succeeds” project? · Posted by u/JNRowe

wsb_mod2 · 4 years ago

I'm not sure if this counts compared to the other posts here, but for me, for many years, r/wallstreetbets.

I think this actually falls in line with most subreddits. You build or support a community because you want to discuss something and there isn't anywhere else to do it.

This is kind of a loose interpretation of the "gets a lot of attention" requirement though.