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whats_a_quasar commented on Oakland cops gave ICE license plate data; SFPD also illegally shared with feds   sfstandard.com/2025/07/14... · Posted by u/danso
potato3732842 · a month ago
The law enforcement agencies which behaved the way law enforcement agencies always behave and did what anyone with even the slightest familiarity with how law enforcement acts thought they would do with the data. This outcome was 1000% predictable even if the details were not.

If you're gonna be angry at someone be angry at the people among us were in favor of the creation of this data set because they foolishly thought it would be used to combat mundane property crime or because perhaps they thought that subjecting motorists to an increased dragnet would be a good thing for alternative transportation, or some other cause, think that they have done no wrong despite warnings of the potential for something like this being raised way back when the cameras and the ALPRs were being put up.

These things will keep happening until it is no longer socially acceptable to advocate for the creation of data collection programs that are a necessary precondition.

whats_a_quasar · a month ago
Fair enough, but it is also valid to be angry at your local law enforcement if they are acting against the community's preferences. Especially when local law enforcement is breaking state law in the process.
whats_a_quasar commented on FBI arrests judge accused of helping man evade immigration authorities   apnews.com/article/immigr... · Posted by u/eterps
Jtsummers · 4 months ago
> I.e. the ICE agents showed up in the middle of a court proceeding, and the judge said they'd need to get permission from the chief judge before they could interrupt proceedings. The judge then didn't stop the defendant from leaving once the proceeding was done.

Since there were multiple agents (the reports and Patel's post all say "agents" plural) they could have left one at the courtroom, or outside, rather than all going away. Then there'd have been no chase and no issue.

The question is if the judge should have held the man or not for the agents who chose to leave no one behind to take him into custody after the proceeding finished.

whats_a_quasar · 4 months ago
To your question - A state judge cannot be required to hold someone on behalf of federal agents. That's federalism 101 and settled law.

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/sanctuary--supremacy--h...

whats_a_quasar commented on FBI arrests judge accused of helping man evade immigration authorities   apnews.com/article/immigr... · Posted by u/eterps
pjc50 · 4 months ago
> incredibly doubtful that they could be successfully prosecuted for this.

But they can be successfully arrested. You can beat the rap but not the ride, etc.

The US is not yet at the level of dysfunction where jurisdiction is settled with gunfire, but ICE seem to be determined to move that closer.

whats_a_quasar · 4 months ago
"You can beat the rap but not the ride" is phrased like the judge actually did anything wrong. That seems very doubtful. This administration has shown they are not entitled to the presumption that they are acting in good faith.
whats_a_quasar commented on FBI arrests judge accused of helping man evade immigration authorities   apnews.com/article/immigr... · Posted by u/eterps
tptacek · 4 months ago
This happened in the last Trump administration, too.
whats_a_quasar · 4 months ago
Source?
whats_a_quasar commented on FBI arrests judge accused of helping man evade immigration authorities   apnews.com/article/immigr... · Posted by u/eterps
lupusreal · 4 months ago
The government probably has evidence, maybe or maybe not persuasive enough for a conviction. That evidence will be presented in due course, not all up front to the media.
whats_a_quasar · 4 months ago
Given the circumstances, the government absolutely does have an obligation to present its evidence up front. You cannot use federal agents to arrest officers of a state government unless the charges are rock solid. There is a strong public interest in this case and the current administration has shown that it is owed zero deference or presumption that it is acting in good faith.
whats_a_quasar commented on FBI arrests judge accused of helping man evade immigration authorities   apnews.com/article/immigr... · Posted by u/eterps
bluGill · 4 months ago
This will be interesting for the 5th amendment. They cannot arrest you for putting "drug dealer" on your tax forms as your job since you are compelled to answer that question honestly. The defendant was compelled to appear in court which means he couldn't protect his own privacy by being elsewhere - are these the same thing?

I don't know how courts will see it, but it is an interesting legal question that I hope some lawyers run with.

whats_a_quasar · 4 months ago
This doesn't really have any fifth amendment implications. The prohibition against self incrimination reads "no person ... shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself."

That doesn't relate to being compelled to attend a proceeding in person where another federal agency can arrest you. If the government can legally arrest you, it does not matter if they determine your location based on another proceeding.

whats_a_quasar commented on FBI arrests judge accused of helping man evade immigration authorities   apnews.com/article/immigr... · Posted by u/eterps
djoldman · 4 months ago
The arrest itself (not necessarily the charges) is best described as a publicity stunt. If you want to charge a lawyer or judge or anyone unlikely to run of a non-violent crime, you invite them to the station:

> “First and foremost, I know -- as a former federal prosecutor and as a defense lawyer for decades – that a person who is a judge, who has a residence who has no problem being found, should not be arrested, if you will, like some common criminal,” Gimbel said. “And I'm shocked and surprised that the US Attorney's office or the FBI would not have invited her to show up and accept process if they're going to charge her with a crime.”

> He said that typically someone who is “not on the run,” and facing this type of crime would be called and invited to come in to have their fingerprints taken or to schedule a court appearance.

whats_a_quasar · 4 months ago
No, a "publicity stunt" is not the best way to describe this latest escalation in the Trump administration's campaign to destroy the rule of law in America. It may be deliberately flashy, but that phrasing very much undersells the significance of the executive attacking the judiciary.
whats_a_quasar commented on xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B   twitter.com/elonmusk/stat... · Posted by u/rvz
bag_boy · 5 months ago
Can you cite your sources on Altman not owning Reddit?
whats_a_quasar · 5 months ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddit

Owners: Advance Publications (30%), Tencent (11%), Sam Altman (9%)

whats_a_quasar commented on xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B   twitter.com/elonmusk/stat... · Posted by u/rvz
wraaath · 5 months ago
Definitely great for the Twitter investors to be able to convert. I think they took a haircut relative to the 42B that they came in on, as the 45B includes the 12B debt. (42 gets reduced to 33, so 21-22% haircut) xAI also raised 6B in December last year at a 45B valuation, and then in February, reporting was that xAI was trying to raise 10B more at the 75B valuation... so this is where the frothiness of AI helps to mask the fundamentals. Can gets kicked down the road.
whats_a_quasar · 5 months ago
Definitely, and a lot of that haircut actually happened in between when the deal was signed and when it closed, too. That was right when interest rates went up and Musk tried to wriggle out of the purchase agreement. So it's a great outcome for Twitter investors, assuming it sticks.
whats_a_quasar commented on xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B   twitter.com/elonmusk/stat... · Posted by u/rvz
jsight · 5 months ago
I can understand that angle, but TBH, I have a hard time caring. They aren't a public company, and their private shareholders aren't lacking for resources to fight if they disagreed with this choice.
whats_a_quasar · 5 months ago
Oh yeah I totally agree with that framing. I find this fascinating intellectually because of the deal dynamics and worthy of critique but agree that the tone of some of the commentary is a bit silly. It's a really unethical thing to do, but it's all private capital and everyone with exposure knowingly made the choice to go into business with Musk. They can sue and definitely will win if Musk did cross any legal lines.

u/whats_a_quasar

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