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unFou commented on Our crisis is not loneliness but human beings becoming invisible   aeon.co/essays/our-crisis... · Posted by u/rbanffy
smokel · 2 months ago
Do you remember television?
unFou · 2 months ago
back in the day, TVs were a bit less portable...
unFou commented on Our crisis is not loneliness but human beings becoming invisible   aeon.co/essays/our-crisis... · Posted by u/rbanffy
lotsofpulp · 2 months ago
There are only 24 hours in a day, and so many days in a lifetime. Everyone is always trading time, since there is a very limited amount of it.

Even in a leisure situation, such as a party, people are going to make choices about how much time to interact with (or not interact with) certain people. Or spending time pontificating on HN.

unFou · 2 months ago
I wonder if your example is a different kind of trade. When we trade time in a leisure situation, we're trading something more immediate and tangible. Whereas the transactional nature of the grandparent comment is more describing something more distanced.

An example of this that was told to me is imagine you're going to dinner with the in-laws (or maybe your best friend's parents). What would their reaction be if you took out your wallet and offered to pay them cash for the meal? As opposed to offering to e.g. bring a bottle of wine or helping to set the table?

Offering to pay might be the "transactional" trade meant by the grandparent. While offering to contribute [food | labour | goodwill] is more of the trading time in a leisure situation.

unFou commented on Resilience requires helping each other out   surfingcomplexity.blog/20... · Posted by u/kiyanwang
TeMPOraL · 2 years ago
On the one hand, the proposition is kind of obvious and self-evident - "I'll trade you ${thing you want} for ${thing I want}" is the next step from "I'll beat you up and take ${thing I want} from you", and then basic money is just doing the trade in two steps. On the other hand, single-step trading - that is, barter - gets infeasible as the primary trading model very quickly. Not because of specialization (the "I want to trade shoes for food, but everyone already has enough shoes" problem), but because of fairness - everyone's memory and the "shared knowledge" established through gossip can scale only so far, and past that point, you need some other means to ensure exchange of goods and services stays balanced over time (and that your group can agree fair balance is being maintained).

Basically, either your proto-society develops ways to track balance of trade[0], or it'll grow a freeloader problem, which will keep it down and possibly even destroy the group. That point comes early enough that it's entirely likely the early societies that didn't develop money didn't grow large enough, and didn't survive long enough, to enter historical record.

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[0] - Trading via a medium of exchange - that is, some form of money - is just one way to achieve it, but it has the useful property of being self-balancing, thus not requiring shared global state. That is, you don't have to keep official logs of every trade made by everyone in your group to keep things fair and balanced (or even define, update and defend what "fair" and "balanced" means, which is something everyone has slightly different view of) - you can just establish a common medium of exchange, give people freedom to individually negotiate the exchange rates, and you have a self-balancing system.

unFou · 2 years ago
Not sure that there aren't alternate pathways from "I'll take what I want" and "I'll trade you specifically this for that".

I remember reading on acoup that in agrarian societies, often they relied on favours and communal sharing in times of bounty. So say if I butchered a hog today, all my neighbours might get some. Not in exchange for something directly, but in the expectation that when I fall on hard times or they get a windfall, they'll do the same for me.

There's probably some potential for freeloading here, but these sorts of communities are likely often right on the edge of survival. If someone develops a reputation for being miserly, that might well result in them starving (or freezing) because they're rejected by their neighbours. So there's an incentive to at least appear generous and pay your fair share.

unFou commented on Anxiety is in your body, not your mind   elemental.medium.com/anxi... · Posted by u/rainhacker
hnick · 4 years ago
I wonder if that is why we like music. We can experience emotions without worrying that they are permanent or need to be resolved.
unFou · 4 years ago
This touched a chord. For me it's a combination of both music and dance.

It's amazing to feel emotions I'd normally not want to express in everyday life and just let them flow out. Rage, jealousy, lust. The music is such a great trigger to tap into these primal feelings, and then expressing them through movement just feels incredible. It feels real and amazingly cathartic, but the transience of the experience leaves no consequences.

I guess that's why there's the saying dance like nobody's watching. Because for many people, that expression of feeling strips us down and leaves our feelings exposed and vulnerable .

unFou commented on Odds of Dying   injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-i... · Posted by u/agnosticmantis
beefield · 4 years ago
For the curious, the causes listed on the site seem to cover about 44% of all deaths. So there are other significant ways to die as well...
unFou · 4 years ago
Or a very long tail...
unFou commented on GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine   bloomberg.com/opinion/art... · Posted by u/tempsy
saddlerustle · 5 years ago
> Our economy is like a town with 1 farmer and 9 investors who spend all day wagering with each other on whether the farmer will have a good crop.

Objectively, that's not true. The finance industry is under 10% of GDP and under 5% of jobs.

unFou · 5 years ago
Interestingly enough, a quick google search shows US farms contribute 136 billion, or about 0.6% of GDP. So, more like 1 farmer to 19 investors?
unFou commented on There is much less intellectual diversity now than there was 100 years ago   bonald.wordpress.com/2020... · Posted by u/Melchizedek
peteretep · 5 years ago
> The communists won World War II, and imposed an ideological purge of unprecedented savagery, universality, and thoroughness ... Liberal democratic cosmopolitanism didn’t win any arguments; it won a war, and got to impose itself by force.

That feeling when you’re so het up about the Modern World you conflate communism and “liberal democratic cosmopolitanism” as “tHE lEFt”.

The true travesty in intellectual diversity is the American right wing abandoning any semblance of intelligent debate. Cue Shapiro calling Andrew Neil a leftist, or almost anything written by Jordan Peterson.

unFou · 5 years ago
I've only read one of Jordan Peterson's books - 12 Rules of Life.

Haven't reread recently, but it was interesting at the time, and sort of helpful for keeping me motivated to get myself out of a bit of a rut. What parts of his writing did you find to be indicative of abandoning intelligent debate?

unFou commented on Artificial diamonds creation process generating lonsdaleite   newatlas.com/materials/sc... · Posted by u/bleair
Ensorceled · 5 years ago
Women have been sold on the idea from a very young age that they need a fairy tale wedding to live happily ever after: from toys to tv, from books to movies: the kneeling groom to be with the shiny ring and the large, grand wedding with a dozen bridesmaids. There are multiple industries selling this vision.

Reducing that to "but many women will still want something expensive "just so that the man will prove that she matters to him by buying her something"" .... this is pure sexism.

unFou · 5 years ago
Not sure what you mean by sexism.

But there are differences in the sexes with regards to the process of conceiving and rearing a child. And it seems to me that a big part of our social constructs that were developed to deal with those differences can be reduced to "the man doing something expensive and hard to fake". Which isn't really that different from "the man proving she matters to him by buying something".

unFou commented on War over Being Nice   josephg.com/blog/war-over... · Posted by u/nphase
tomohawk · 5 years ago
Tolerance traditionally means tolerating people. This has been shifted (some would say cynically) to mean tolerating ideas.

The traditional meaning allows you to have a society. You can live next to someone who you disagree with.

The new meaning is a profoundly negative one. It means that if you are tolerant, then there is something wrong with you, because you are tolerating bad ideas. A society that embraces the second definition doesn't seem like it will last very long.

The traditional definition allows conversations to take place. It gives people space to grow and change their minds. It puts people as more important than ideals.

The new definition makes ideals more important than people. It requires cancelling people if they believe the "wrong" things, or at least unfashionable things.

unFou · 5 years ago
I'm curious how to be intolerant of an idea while being tolerant of people?

Because practically, aren't ideas tied to people? I don't think you can have an idea survive without people keeping it alive. So how do you express intolerance for "bad" ideas without letting that expression bleed into an intolerance for the people propagating the "bad" idea?

unFou commented on 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)   sciencemag.org/news/2018/... · Posted by u/jonathanjaeger
kmonsen · 5 years ago
The problem is that it is at least 10x easier to fix Earth than to terraform Mars, and all the problems we have on Earth are going to be there as well.
unFou · 5 years ago
That might be the point. Few people are going to bother spending resources to fix a problem that doesn't exist. And by the time such a problem arises on Earth (inhospitable living conditions due to e.g. supervolcano), we might not have the resources to fix it. Whereas terraforming Mars creates the incentives to develop solutions while we have abundant resources, which means that we have a fix ready and waiting if something catastrophic happens on earth.

u/unFou

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