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What's the threat though. As in, what's at risk. A leaked email address? Probably. Enough info to have your identity stolen as prior commenter had mentioned. Probably not.
> That's completely unrelated.
Umm, no, it's related due to the prior commenter claiming that was the risk in their contrived situation from prior post mentioning identity theft.
> Any of it being leaked is unacceptable. You can find a lot from an email, or a phone number.
Everyone's email has already been leaked somewhere. It's not private data. This is like saying your bank account number is confidential financial information and ignoring the fact it's printed on every check you write.
> Many of you are apathetic to the idea of doing right by people.
> We're supposed to be better than this.
I object by simply saying I'm just being realistic. Data leaks somewhere, everywhere, sometimes, always. You're choosing to live in a fantasy land where this doesn't happen as if it wasn't the very true state of the world long before vibe coding came along. Sure, it's not my ideal state. But it is the actual state of things. Get real.
That you think vibe coded apps may not collect PII, or that all PII has already been leaked is not at all realistic.
I beg to differ. Non-technical users pushing anything into production is GREAT!
For many, that's the only way they can get their internal tool done.
For many others, that's the only way they might get enough buyers and capital to hire a "real" developer to get rid of the security holes and non-obvious bugs.
I mean, it's not like every "senior developer" is immune from having obvious-in-retrospect security holes. Wasn't there a huge dating app recently with a glaring issue where you could list and access every photo and conversation ever shared, because nobody on their professional tech team secured the endpoints against enumeration of IDs?
I agree it is great that more people can build software, but let's not pretend there are zero downsides.
I’ll take it over the fake American politeness any day, 100 times over.
If your sentence "LLMs output is bullshit" is wrong you may be better off changing the sentence than rewriting the dictionary to fit your sentence.
I mean you can redefine words if you like, like how young people use sick and bad to mean much the opposite of what they did, which is fine as a fashion statement, but in trying to reason about LLMs it muddies the reasoning. Which of course is often why academics do it - see Hobbes, Calvin 1993 https://www.reddit.com/r/calvinandhobbes/comments/1300k80/ac...
For many people, getting an ID requires taking a day off work, which for many can mean their family is going to miss one or more meals, or even worse, that they miss a car or rent payment.
Consequently, this is also a strong reason why Republicans have repeatedly blocked attempts to make voting day a national holiday, while at the same time strategically closing down polling locations -- so working poor (predominantly registered Democrats) have a harder time voting.
But it gets even worse than that. During segregation era, it wasn't uncommon for black women to be turned away from hospitals and be forced to give birth via midwives, then be unable to obtain birth certificates for their children. Because they have no official birth certificates, states deny them IDs.
Example: https://atlantablackstar.com/2025/05/07/florida-woman-real-i...
Voter ID laws are explicitly designed to disenfranchise these people, because they're virtually always proposed by individuals representing the very states that denied black people birth certificates, and in many cases, those same individuals proposing the laws lived through the very era when those birth certificates were still actively being denied.
That said: I'm mostly in agreement - the solution is to get these people proper IDs (and by extension, birth certificates). However, I think you'll find the very people proposing these ID laws are going to be the same ones stonewalling any attempts to address the problems I laid out.