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keybored commented on Thoughts on Generating C   wingolog.org/archives/202... · Posted by u/ingve
rirze · a day ago
Love how he put a paragraph for someone asking, "why not generate Rust?". Beautiful.
keybored · 14 hours ago
“Use Rust as a compilation target” is a new bugbear now? Never even heard that suggestion before.
keybored commented on The AI boom is causing shortages everywhere else   washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/1vuio0pswjnm7
WalterBright · 2 days ago
I don't like being high.
keybored · a day ago
You know what I mean.

People can find other things to do than work for a wage. I don’t get what your original objection is about when you yourself work even though you don’t have to.

Some local volunteer organizations seem to only have people 60+ years of age.

keybored commented on AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it   siddhantkhare.com/writing... · Posted by u/sidk24
Synthetic7346 · 2 days ago
I assume that if you take a break you'll have missed a lot when you come back, at the pace things are evolving. Which is OK for some people like OP but maybe not for simonw
keybored · 2 days ago
I meant like watch a movie.
keybored commented on AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it   siddhantkhare.com/writing... · Posted by u/sidk24
simonw · 2 days ago
I really feel this. I can make meaningful progress on half a dozen projects in the course of a day now but I end the day exhausted.

I've had conversations with people recently who are losing sleep because they're finding building yet another feature with "just one more prompt" irresistible.

Decades of intuition about sustainable working practices just got disrupted. It's going to take a while and some discipline to find a good new balance.

keybored · 2 days ago
You write a lot about AI. If this is in your free time why not just take a break? If you are ten times more productive, rest for at least twice as much. I don’t get it.
keybored commented on AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it   siddhantkhare.com/writing... · Posted by u/sidk24
keybored · 2 days ago
More AI Inevitablism Soothsaying.[1]

> I shipped more code last quarter than any quarter in my career. I also felt more drained than any quarter in my career. These two facts are not unrelated.

I’m gonna be generous (and try not to be pedantic) and assume that more-code means more bugfixes and features (and whatnot) and not more LOC.

Your manager has mandated X tokens a day or you feel you have to use it to keep up. Huh?

> I build AI agent infrastructure for a living. I'm one of the core maintainers of OpenFGA (CNCF Incubating), I built agentic-authz for agent authorization, I built Distill for context deduplication, I shipped MCP servers. I'm not someone who dabbles with AI on the side. I'm deep in it. I build the tools that other engineers use to make AI agents work in production.

Oh.

> If you're an engineer who uses AI daily - for design reviews, code generation, debugging, documentation, architecture decisions - and you've noticed that you're somehow more tired than before AI existed, this post is for you. You're not imagining it. You're not weak. You're experiencing something real that the industry is aggressively pretending doesn't exist. And if someone who builds agent infrastructure full-time can burn out on AI, it can happen to anyone.

This is what ChatGPT writes to me when I ask “but why is that the case”.

1. No, you are not wrong

2. You don’t have <bad character trait>

3. You are experiencing something real

> I want to talk about it honestly. Not the "AI is amazing and here's my workflow" version. The real version.

And it will be unfiltered. Raw. And we will conclude with how to go on with our Flintstone Engineering[2] but with some platitudes about self-care.

> The real skill ... It's knowing when to stop.

Stop prompting? Like, for

> Knowing when the AI output is good enough.

Ah. We do short prompting sessions instead.

> Knowing that your brain is a finite resource and that protecting it is not laziness - it's engineering.

Indeed it’s not this thing. It’s that—thing.

> AI is the most powerful tool I've ever used. It's also the most draining. Both things are true. The engineers who thrive in this era won't be the ones who use AI the most. They'll be the ones who use it the most wisely.

Of course we will keep using “the most powerful tool I’ve ever used”. But we will do it wisely.

What’s to worry about? You can use ChatGPT as your therapist now.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46935607

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44163821

keybored commented on The AI boom is causing shortages everywhere else   washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/1vuio0pswjnm7
WalterBright · 3 days ago
Best wishes to you! I'm retired myself, but I work full time (on D). Yale is hosting a symposium on D in April, and I'll be a speaker at it.
keybored · 2 days ago
> Best wishes to you! I'm retired myself, but I work full time (on D).

Why aren’t you smoking pot in your basement?

keybored commented on I am happier writing code by hand   abhinavomprakash.com/post... · Posted by u/lazyfolder
keybored · 2 days ago
There’s been a new category of writings the last year. The AI Inevitability Soothsaying.[1]

There’s talk of war in the state of Nationstan. There are two camps: those who think going to war is good and just, and those who think it is not practical. Clearly not everyone is pro-war. There are two camps. But the Overton Window is defined with the premise that invading another country is a right that Nationstate has and can act on. There are by definition (inside the Overton Window) no one who is anti-war on the principle that the state has no right to do it.[2]

Not all articles in this AI category are outright positive. They range from the euphoric to the slightly depressed. But they share the same premise of inevitability; even the most negative will say that, of course I use AI, I’m not some Luddite[3]! It is integral to my work now. But I don’t just let it run the whole game. I copy–paste with judicious care. blah blah blah

The point of any Overton Window is to simulate lively debate within the confines of the premises.

And it’s impressive how many aspects of “the human” (RIP?) it covers. Emotions, self-esteem, character, identity. We are not[4] marching into irrelevance without a good consoling. Consolation?

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44159648

[2] You can let real nations come to mind here

This was taken from the formerly famous (and controversial among Khmer Rouge obsessed) Chomsky, now living in infamy for obvious reasons.

[3] Many paragraphs could be written about this

[4] We. Well, maybe me and others, not necessarily you. Depending on your view of whether the elites or the Mensa+ engineers will inherit the machines.

keybored commented on The AI boom is causing shortages everywhere else   washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/1vuio0pswjnm7
WalterBright · 3 days ago
Meaning or not, UBI doesn't work because the math doesn't work.

> bizarre

It isn't bizarre at all. Without work people devolve into playing video games and smoking pot in their mom's basement.

I remember summer vacations from school. It was great for a while, but soon I was looking forward to getting back to school.

keybored · 2 days ago
Always such glowing recommendations of human kind from techies.

People devolve like that when they have no purpose or opportunities. Which I’m sure would happen with the real goal of UBI: barely subsistence support in order to grow a larger pool of reserve labor while the rich (who are not degenerate at all[1]) live large.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46929869

keybored commented on The AI boom is causing shortages everywhere else   washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/1vuio0pswjnm7
anonymous908213 · 2 days ago
I don't know how you can write down those numbers and come to the conclusion they sound reasonable at all. Corporations literally can't give this trash away for free without consumers being unhappy about it (eg. the Copilot malware infesting every aspect of Windows). ChatGPT had 800m MAU at one report, but that's a chat interface and free. Do you really believe over half of those users are going to convert from "free" to paying $60/mo for access to the chat interface, when all potential applications for actually improving their lives are failing badly? I think you are out of touch with the finances of non-tech-indsutry workers if you think they will.
keybored · 2 days ago
> I don't know how you can write down those numbers and come to the conclusion they sound reasonable at all.

Half this board is in the most hyped echo chamber I’ve ever seen.

keybored commented on The AI boom is causing shortages everywhere else   washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/1vuio0pswjnm7
YokoZar · 3 days ago
> * it’s a safe bet that labor will have lower value in 2031 than it has today

If AI makes workers more productive, labor will have higher value than it has today. Which specific workers are winning in that scenario may vary tremendously, of course, but I don't think anyone is seriously claiming AI will make everyone less productive.

keybored · 2 days ago
> If AI makes workers more productive, labor will have higher value than it has today.

Workers being more productive does not necessarily translate to workers getting more leverage or a larger piece of the pie.

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