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goosejuice commented on Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed fortune.com/2025/08/23/ne... · Posted by u/danielmorozoff

breve · a day ago

The work of many talented engineers at Tesla is dismissed by Musk: https://archive.md/QJQ3r

Some engineers have become so corrupted by the culture of lying of Tesla that they're willing to lie about things that there's no need to lie about, like quarter mile times of the Cybertruck:

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/tesla-cybertruck-beast-vs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J3H8--CQRE

The lead engineer on the Cybertruck sadly tried to defend the lie, while admitting that they never even ran that quarter mile:

https://x.com/wmorrill3/status/1746266437088645551

goosejuice · a day ago

And yet you and many others can't step back from the controversy for one second and discuss the engineering. Every single discussion around autonomous vehicles is poisoned by it.

goosejuice commented on Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed fortune.com/2025/08/23/ne... · Posted by u/danielmorozoff

hobs · 3 days ago

I can acknowledge many facts, but since you seem to dodge that really big one I don't think we can have a productive discussion here. Talking about rationality in that context of what appears to be motivated thinking is ... interesting.

goosejuice · 2 days ago

Do you think that you're sharing new information? That arguably the most hated man in America has consistently over promised and under delivered? It would be a little difficult to miss that over the last ten years.

I find it rather sad that the work of so many talented engineers is simply dismissed because they'd rather talk about that clown. You'd think HN could at least separate the two. There's a whole lot of people here working for a billionaire shit head.

goosejuice commented on Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed fortune.com/2025/08/23/ne... · Posted by u/danielmorozoff

Veserv · 3 days ago

Well because Elon Musk keeps making it. In January 2023, on the official Tesla earnings call, he said that FSD was currently overwhelmingly superior at autonomous driving than everything else in existence:

"So who do we think is close to Tesla with -- a general solution for self-driving? And we still don't even know really who would even be a distant second. So yes, it really seems like we're -- I mean, right now, I don't think you could see a second place with a telescope, at least we can't." [1]

That is a literal, direct, backward-looking statement about current capabilities comparing it to all existing systems. A backward-looking statement that is clearly and objectively false given their present day inability to safely deploy driverless vehicles which Waymo already achieved in 2022, let alone quantitative disengagement metrics demonstrating a level of capability between 10-100x worse than Waymo contemporaneously in 2022 [2] and inferior even to Waymo in 2015 [3]. A false statement made willingly and knowingly in official investor communications to maintain their stock price.

[1] https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-transcripts/2023/01/26/te...

[2] https://thelastdriverlicenseholder.com/2023/02/17/2022-disen...

[3] https://thelastdriverlicenseholder.com/2018/02/01/disengagem...

goosejuice · 3 days ago

So a person who most of us strongly despise makes you throw out all rational thought and make false equivalence arguments about these autonomous systems?

Everything doesn't have to be about Elon. Imagine you replaced him in 2015, but still approached autonomy through mass market level 2. How would you compare them? I think you might add just a few caveats about the constraints and environments they operate in.

goosejuice commented on Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed fortune.com/2025/08/23/ne... · Posted by u/danielmorozoff

unaindz · 3 days ago

By definition if you aim to get autonomous that means you aim for zero or at least a very low intervention per mile. Tesla boast about that but doesn't provide.

goosejuice · 3 days ago

The context clearly matters.

goosejuice commented on Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed fortune.com/2025/08/23/ne... · Posted by u/danielmorozoff

hobs · 3 days ago

You started with "Why is anyone..." and you got your answer - the founder and promoter of the technology has been on record lying about it multiple times. There's lawsuits about it. Steelmanning Tesla's position makes no sense here.

goosejuice · 3 days ago

I did not get a rational answer.

If you're building a cheap mass market self driving vehicle that has to work everywhere you'll make completely different design decisions than a geo restricted taxi. Would you care to acknowledge that simple fact? The amount of hypotheticals you'd have to go through to compare these technologies in superiority up to this point is extensive. Go ahead, do the thought experiment. It would be a lot more interesting than a blanket interventions per mile with zero context.

Otherwise it's a false equivalence dog pile in search of Internet points. We don't need repeating of exhaustingly well known qualities of Tesla's CEO. That's not interesting, the Internet is already overrun with that.

goosejuice commented on Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed fortune.com/2025/08/23/ne... · Posted by u/danielmorozoff

breve · 3 days ago

> It's a horrible comparison. Why do people keep making it?

Because Tesla keeps claiming they'll have full autonomy "next year", year after year.

In 2016 Tesla claimed every Tesla car being produced had "the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver". That was a lie: https://web.archive.org/web/20161020091022/https://tesla.com...

By the end of 2020 there were supposed to be 1 million Tesla robotaxis on the road. That was also a lie: https://www.thedrive.com/news/38129/elon-musk-promised-1-mil...

Tesla sets its own benchmark and consistently fails to achieve it.

goosejuice · 3 days ago

Yes, I've heard this time and time again. It has nothing to do with the point I'm making. This is just stoking the flamewar.

If you want to compare Waymo and Tesla FSD from a technology standpoint and claim superiority of one over the other you can't use simple values like interventions per mile. It says very little. The solutions were designed for different purposes under different constraints. That's what engineers do. If Waymo was attempting to make consumer viable self driving vehicles they would have made very different decisions and likewise for Tesla if their only goal was taxi. That should be obvious to any technologist.

goosejuice commented on Gemini 2.5 Flash Image developers.googleblog.com... · Posted by u/meetpateltech

fariszr · 3 days ago

This is the gpt 4 moment for image editing models. Nano banana aka gemini 2.5 flash is insanely good. It made a 171 elo point jump in lmarena!

Just search nano banana on Twitter to see the crazy results. An example. https://x.com/D_studioproject/status/1958019251178267111

goosejuice · 3 days ago

Yet it's failed spectacularly at almost everything I've given it.

goosejuice commented on Gemini 2.5 Flash Image developers.googleblog.com... · Posted by u/meetpateltech

atleastoptimal · 3 days ago

I can imagine an automated blackmail bot that scrapes image, video, voice samples from anyone with the most meagre online presence, which then creates high resolution videos of that person doing the most horrid acts, then threatening to share those videos with that person's family, friends and business contacts unless they are paid $5000 in a cryptocurrency to an anonymous address.

And further, I can imagine some person actually having such footage of themselves being threatened to be released, then using the former narrative as a cover story were it to be released. Is there anything preventing AI generated images, video, etc from being always detectible by software that can intuit if something is AI? what if random noise is added, would the "Is AI" signal persist just as much as the indication to human that the footage seems real?

goosejuice · 3 days ago

SynthID claims to be designed to persist through several methods of modification. I suspect such attacks you mention will happen, but by those with deep pockets. Like a nation-state actor with access to models that don't produce watermarks.

goosejuice commented on Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed fortune.com/2025/08/23/ne... · Posted by u/danielmorozoff

arnaudsm · 3 days ago

I was comparing Robotaxis with Waymo in Texas.

If you want to compare Teslas with consumer cars, the best metric we have is the fatality rate per mile. Tesla is #1.

goosejuice · 3 days ago

I see that and it's a horrible comparison. Tesla's robotaxi is a consumer car, taxi isn't their singular focus. If it was, FSD design would have taken a different path.

goosejuice commented on Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed fortune.com/2025/08/23/ne... · Posted by u/danielmorozoff

arnaudsm · 3 days ago

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goosejuice · 3 days ago

Well your father can't buy a Waymo. Even if he could it wouldn't go very far, wouldn't work everywhere and would cost at least 2x a model 3 or Y. So there are at least several leads Tesla has.

It's a horrible comparison. Why do people keep making it? This isn't Lyft vs Uber. A better comparison to Tesla FSD would be blue cruise, super cruise, drive pilot, god's eye, and every other consumer level 2 ADAS.