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bmadduma commented on Tell HN: AI coding is sexy, but accounting is the real low-hanging target    · Posted by u/bmadduma
bmadduma · 5 days ago
I should say upfront I don’t hate humans or CPAs.

What I’m working on is the opposite of that. I want to free humans from boring, repetitive finance work so they can use their time for higher-value and more creative things.

While building an “AI CFO” for small businesses (LayerNext), I’ve learned a few things that changed how I see bookkeeping:

Most of bookkeeping is repetitive and under-optimized. Everyone says “90% of the work is repetitive,” but we still hire bookkeepers and bookkeeping firms. Most small businesses I talk to pay around $300–$800 per month just for bookkeeping. Even after paying that, I really doubt every single transaction is recorded in the most tax-optimized way. There are hundreds of transactions, constant government tax rule changes, and limited time.

Current automation is stuck at rules you manually define. Tools like QuickBooks can categorize transactions based on rules you create. That’s it. As soon as something new comes up, you still need a human to either, create a new rule, or manually enter and categorize it.

And even when you hire a human bookkeeper, you still end up doing half the work anyway: sending receipts, answering clarification emails, chasing missing information.

Invoice and expense capture can be 100% automated, even with edge cases In practice, invoice and expense capture is the easy part. With decent models, you can get 100% accurate capture from receipts, PDFs, emails, etc. Edge cases are solvable with better parsing and validation, not more humans.

Reconciliation is the hard part, but reasoning models are getting very good. This is where things get tricky: - multiple invoices paid in a single payment - partial payments - refunds, chargebacks, etc.

For example, imagine a consulting company issuing several invoices to the same customer and receiving one lump-sum payment. We’ve had success using deep research like reasoning to match payments to invoices and handle those cases automatically.

AI can sometimes care more about details than a human. One moment that surprised me.We had a credit card transaction with no receipt.

The question was whether it should be classified as “office expense” or “meals and entertainment” (in Canada these have different tax treatments). When I checked trace of the agent, it looked up the vendor online to understand what they actually sell, checked CRA tax rules and then picked the GL account that maximized the tax benefit for the company.

I’m not sure many manual bookkeepers consistently do that level of research when they’re trying to reconcile 500+ transactions and half the receipts are missing.

My goal is to build a fully automated financial assistant that can close the books without a CPA or bookkeeper, with ~99% accuracy across all transactions, and with the explicit goal of maximizing tax benefits within the rules.

Other outcome is accurate rea-time books can generate good insights to grow the business.

So I don’t see a good reason why small businesses should pay hundreds of dollars per month for humans to do mechanical work that machines can now do, often more consistently and with better attention to tax details.

Curious how others see this, especially CPAs and engineers who have built accounting tools. Is there a fundamental reason we need humans in the loop for the majority of small business bookkeeping, or is it mostly inertia and habit?

bmadduma commented on OpenAI declares 'code red' as Google catches up in AI race   theverge.com/news/836212/... · Posted by u/goplayoutside
bmadduma · 14 days ago
Word needs need OpenAI and Anthropic like startups to drive AI forward. Think about only Google, Meta, MS, AWS is only have these capabilities. They will never able to do that in one hand, other hand it will be monopolistics. We need more AI startups, not monopolies.
bmadduma commented on IBM CEO says there is 'no way' spending on AI data centers will pay off   businessinsider.com/ibm-c... · Posted by u/nabla9
bmadduma · 14 days ago
No wonder why he is saying that, they lost AI game, no top researcher wants to work for IBM. Spent years developing Watson, it is dead. I believe this is a company that should not be existed.
bmadduma commented on Do things that don't scale' is not valid anymore    · Posted by u/bmadduma
robocat · a month ago
Please don't be rudely facetious.

You are on YC and appear to be disagreeing with PG's "Do Things that Don't Scale" article: https://paulgraham.com/ds.html so people jump to conclusions even if you don't.

bmadduma · a month ago
What is rude? Did I mentioned anything bad here, I expressed my point of view, so other founders can either take it or not. I'm describing a real problem in enterprise AI. If pointing that out makes me "against the cult," so be it. I'd rather share what I learned the hard way than repeat talking points that don't apply to my context.
bmadduma commented on Do things that don't scale' is not valid anymore    · Posted by u/bmadduma
wmf · a month ago
You need be mindful not built everything customers ask you to build.

Did PG say to do that?

bmadduma · a month ago
I didn't mean hurt your master, I did not mention your masters name.
bmadduma commented on Do things that don't scale' is not valid anymore    · Posted by u/bmadduma
onion2k · a month ago
You missed the point of the essay.

a scalable product company

If you're building a scalable product company your first customers are your best evangelists. They're the ones you need to cultivate and nurture to take your message to a wide audience. Wider than you can connect with without them on side. That's why you have to do things at the start like emailing and talking with them personally. You can't do that when you have 1,000 customers, but you need to do that when you have 3.

bmadduma · a month ago
Sorry forgot to mention B2B AI company. You need be mindful not built everything customers ask you to build. I'm talking about that, email, talking to customers I have no problem with that.
bmadduma commented on Show HN: Autonomous Bookkeeping and CFO Agent   layernext.ai... · Posted by u/bmadduma
bmadduma · a month ago
LayerNext automates your bookkeeping tasks. It automatically categorizes transactions and posts them to QuickBooks when you upload your receipts, bills, or invoices.

At the end of the month, you can upload your bank and credit card statements (PDF) and ask the LayerNext agent to reconcile them.

Once your books are clean, you can also ask financial questions and get insights about your business.

u/bmadduma

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